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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #2: Early Overreactions

Jan. 9 at 4:46 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
Lindros told the Nordiques prior to selecting him that he wouldn't play for them. Gauthier said he was "made to be a Flyer" (according to Briere). Slightly different in that regard, but more or less the same. I get it's tough for Flyers fans, but the hate sent Cutter's way is unreal


IF the kid was not honest with the Flyers during the draft interview process then yes that’s on him.
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Jan. 9 at 4:48 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
Lindros told the Nordiques prior to selecting him that he wouldn't play for them. Gauthier said he was "made to be a Flyer" (according to Briere). Slightly different in that regard, but more or less the same. I get it's tough for Flyers fans, but the hate sent Cutter's way is unreal


Really depends on Cutter's reasoning, if he lied to the Flyers/got butt-hurt because the Flyers didn't give him a contract, I'd say that's on him and he does deserve a certain level of hate (not excessive hate though)
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Jan. 9 at 5:23 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Most sane Philadelphians:


Pinning it as a Phildelphia thing is also wrong...

It's a bad people thing. There people in every fan base who are bad people.

See: Kadri-- he got death threats from Blues fans
See: Jake Debrusk He got death threats | https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2019/04/26/no-room-in-the-nhl-for-death-threats-boston-bruins-jake-debrusk-was-targeted/
See: J.T Brown - Got Death Threats https://madison365.com/j-t-brown-faces-backlash-becoming-first-nhl-player-join-national-anthem-protest/
See: David Reinbacher - Who got death Threats https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/habs-first-rounder-david-reinbacher-receives-hate-messages-and-death-threats-from-fans-in-montreal


and countless more examples...
Jan. 9 at 5:28 p.m.
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And now Hayes is getting death threats from Flyers fans. Did Anthony SanFilippo start this? He's a f'in clown.

https://twitter.com/CrossingBroad/status/1744547990994325572?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


Low class from SanFilippo and the Flyers fans sending their own player death threats
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Jan. 9 at 5:33 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Pinning it as a Phildelphia thing is also wrong...

It's a bad people thing. There people in every fan base who are bad people.

See: Kadri-- he got death threats from Blues fans
See: Jake Debrusk He got death threats | https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2019/04/26/no-room-in-the-nhl-for-death-threats-boston-bruins-jake-debrusk-was-targeted/
See: J.T Brown - Got Death Threats https://madison365.com/j-t-brown-faces-backlash-becoming-first-nhl-player-join-national-anthem-protest/
See: David Reinbacher - Who got death Threats https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/habs-first-rounder-david-reinbacher-receives-hate-messages-and-death-threats-from-fans-in-montreal


and countless more examples...


I didn't realize it happened to DeBrusk from Leafs fan...

I am absolutely embarrassed as a Leafs fan as we shouldn't sink that low over a game of hockey... I get being upset, but being as immature as to send someone death threats is childish


And also, embarrassing for NHL fans to constantly have all these different players receive death threats when guys like Reinbacher did the horrid crime of getting selected by their favourite team
Jan. 9 at 7:11 p.m.
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Quoting: edeangel84
I don’t necessarily disagree but is this that different from what Adam Fox did? Or even Eric Lindros?


1-Lindros made it known before the draft he wouldn't play for a team ran by Marcel Aubut (the then owner of the Nordiques)
2-Fox didn't change him mind on a dime like Gauthier did. He just never signed in CGY. Gauthier, a few months ago, wanted to play in PHI, then in the WJC he and his agent deliberately ghosted the Flyers because he didn't want to play for them anymore.
Jan. 9 at 7:21 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Pinning it as a Phildelphia thing is also wrong...

It's a bad people thing. There people in every fan base who are bad people.

See: Kadri-- he got death threats from Blues fans
See: Jake Debrusk He got death threats | https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2019/04/26/no-room-in-the-nhl-for-death-threats-boston-bruins-jake-debrusk-was-targeted/
See: J.T Brown - Got Death Threats https://madison365.com/j-t-brown-faces-backlash-becoming-first-nhl-player-join-national-anthem-protest/
See: David Reinbacher - Who got death Threats https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/habs-first-rounder-david-reinbacher-receives-hate-messages-and-death-threats-from-fans-in-montreal


and countless more examples...


Th entire sports fan culture of Philly paints its own picture. Every team has had disgraceful moments from the fans and that goes back decades and decades long before everyone captured everything on social media.
Jan. 9 at 7:21 p.m.
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Quoting: WJC_Enthusiast
1-Lindros made it known before the draft he wouldn't play for a team ran by Marcel Aubut (the then owner of the Nordiques)
2-Fox didn't change him mind on a dime like Gauthier did. He just never signed in CGY. Gauthier, a few months ago, wanted to play in PHI, then in the WJC he and his agent deliberately ghosted the Flyers because he didn't want to play for them anymore.


I’d like to hear from the kid before I take the Flyers at their word
Jan. 9 at 7:23 p.m.
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Quoting: edeangel84
I’d like to hear from the kid before I take the Flyers at their word


Oh yeah don't get me wrong if Philly did something nasty then I'll be happy to change my opinion but what really leaves a bad taste in my mouth is him and his agent just ghosting the team during the WJC. That's just not the professional way to do it.
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Jan. 9 at 7:47 p.m.
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For SJS sake pray for Celibrini and not a DET curse

Thats the only reward to make this season feel worth it
Jan. 9 at 7:50 p.m.
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Of the bottom feeding teams, which team do you want to see land Celebrini? Sharks are definitely the most deserving, and Celebrini as spent many of his teenage years in the Bay Area while his Dad worked for the Warriors. The Bedard - Celebrini Vancouver connection would also be a lot of fun
Jan. 9 at 8:06 p.m.
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Jesus that Holmberg goal
Jan. 9 at 9:44 p.m.
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If Zegras is actually available Avs should be all over it

I know hes not had the greatest season but this kids got talent and I could see him thrive with the Avs.

Also if Chycrun is available man thats the #1 D available this TDL no questions asked
Jan. 9 at 9:59 p.m.
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Quoting: edeangel84
Th entire sports fan culture of Philly paints its own picture. Every team has had disgraceful moments from the fans and that goes back decades and decades long before everyone captured everything on social media.


You can literally say that about every big sports town though.

You just see it more with teams like the Leafs, Habs, Flyers, or Cowboys and Steelers+ because well they have a lot larger fanbases than most teams.

No fanbase is immune to having bad people root for them. Bad people are from all over.
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Jan. 9 at 10:11 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
Of the bottom feeding teams, which team do you want to see land Celebrini? Sharks are definitely the most deserving, and Celebrini as spent many of his teenage years in the Bay Area while his Dad worked for the Warriors. The Bedard - Celebrini Vancouver connection would also be a lot of fun


I don’t see the Sharks taking Celebrini, they’ve already got packed centre depth. I would like to see the Sharks take Levshunov.

It would be cool to see Celebrini as a Sabre or a Senator, since they could be amazing in the future, especially with Celebrini.
Jan. 9 at 11:06 p.m.
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I feel like the people on Trade Machine make up a whole different crowd than the forums
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Jan. 9 at 11:09 p.m.
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I feel like the people on Trade Machine make up a whole different crowd than the forums


100%. Most of the avid trade machine users don't have any likes or ACGM teams. It's really cool how the different features on the site draw different types of hockey fans. Im amazed how little overlap there is between forum / ACGM / trade machine users. Mock draft is really the exception to that
Jan. 9 at 11:19 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Pinning it as a Phildelphia thing is also wrong...

It's a bad people thing. There people in every fan base who are bad people.

See: Kadri-- he got death threats from Blues fans
See: Jake Debrusk He got death threats | https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2019/04/26/no-room-in-the-nhl-for-death-threats-boston-bruins-jake-debrusk-was-targeted/
See: J.T Brown - Got Death Threats https://madison365.com/j-t-brown-faces-backlash-becoming-first-nhl-player-join-national-anthem-protest/
See: David Reinbacher - Who got death Threats https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/habs-first-rounder-david-reinbacher-receives-hate-messages-and-death-threats-from-fans-in-montreal


and countless more examples...


Quoting: Leafsfan98
I didn't realize it happened to DeBrusk from Leafs fan...

I am absolutely embarrassed as a Leafs fan as we shouldn't sink that low over a game of hockey... I get being upset, but being as immature as to send someone death threats is childish


And also, embarrassing for NHL fans to constantly have all these different players receive death threats when guys like Reinbacher did the horrid crime of getting selected by their favourite team


Quoting: edeangel84
Th entire sports fan culture of Philly paints its own picture. Every team has had disgraceful moments from the fans and that goes back decades and decades long before everyone captured everything on social media.


I just feel that the NHL getting more in-bed with gambling (the money will dictate this) will create more and more of this type of behavior in "hockey hotbed" markets especially.
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Jan. 9 at 11:24 p.m.
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If Zegras is actually available Avs should be all over it

I know hes not had the greatest season but this kids got talent and I could see him thrive with the Avs.

Also if Chycrun is available man thats the #1 D available this TDL no questions asked


No thank you. Zegras would be in culture shock on the Avs. Landeskog, MacKinnon, Rantanen would not put up with one-way BS; and that is not even talking about Bednar.

I don't think he is going anywhere; just because of Cutter Gauthier at least.
Jan. 9 at 11:41 p.m.
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I feel like the people on Trade Machine make up a whole different crowd than the forums


Honestly I forgot trade machine existed lol
Jan. 10 at 9:38 a.m.
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I don’t see the Sharks taking Celebrini, they’ve already got packed centre depth. I would like to see the Sharks take Levshunov.

It would be cool to see Celebrini as a Sabre or a Senator, since they could be amazing in the future, especially with Celebrini.


If the Sharks want Levshunov they should definitely trade down to 4 or 5. There's one person I know who thinks Levshunov is top 1 talent.
Or they can just take Celebrini and have a disgusting 1-2 punch of Celebrini-Smith in the future. This means they move Hertl - maybe to Boston
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Jan. 10 at 12:06 p.m.
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If the Sharks want Levshunov they should definitely trade down to 4 or 5. There's one person I know who thinks Levshunov is top 1 talent.
Or they can just take Celebrini and have a disgusting 1-2 punch of Celebrini-Smith in the future. This means they move Hertl - maybe to Boston


im disappointed to not see kulich in your top 10 centers...he is a stud.
Jan. 10 at 1:07 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I feel like the people on Trade Machine make up a whole different crowd than the forums


The forums are more for those who’ve been here long enough
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Jan. 10 at 2:33 p.m.
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Lindstrom claimed by Anaheim. Best of luck to him.
Jan. 10 at 4:56 p.m.
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Honestly got to give it to the NHL as no longer do they got the worst officiating

Neither does the MLB

Congrats: NBA this year you got the title

And no this is not from last night. But man NBA officiating took like 2 steps back. CP might have been right

Other leagues should watch and go this is what not to do lul

But hey good for a guy to call em out. Gonna get fined like the Rangers did when they called DOPS out but hey thumbs up someone had to do it

As man imagine that **** in the NHL. You would have coaches jumping over the boards and fighting refs
 
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