D is the last thing CHI needs.

Hawks decline instantly. LD is their deepest position with prospects. And even if they would trade for Orlov, the Canes would have to include a high pick to have them eat that salary.

The Laine deal is bad, he's not going to work under Rod. He doesn't play defense and is never healthy.

Orlov's been very good, and he's made Chatfield look like an NHL defenseman, and you move him only to sign Chatfield to a boat anchor? No

Why are you giving away Suzuki for bad 3rd pairing defenseman that you are forcing to play in the top 4 and dumping Orlov, who is a top 4 D man in his own right? Completely backward logic.

Too much for Jarvis and Necas, neither player has done enough to justify that kind of cap hit yet. Jarvis might by years end, but not yet.

If Martinook asks for 3 million, he's moving on. He's not worth the 1.8 he makes now. Not enough for Pesce. Rumor is he wants 7x7, and there's a reason Carolina hasn't signed it. Pesce also doesn't play with Slavin.

Pass on Dermott, he's not good.

Blais has not worked outside of St Louis. No thanks.

I don't mind the Motte signing

Orlov would instantly become Chicago's best defenseman...

Love the Motte signing, I agree with Caniac 2000 on the Orlov, and prices for Jarvis and Necas.

First of all, Laine isn’t going to be getting that. His value is at an all time low. As for Orlov, he isn’t being moved either. The Canes signed him so that he could take over for Skjei. Pesce is wanting closer to 7mil. He might take 6.25-6.5mil from the Canes, but he isn’t taking that low of an offer.

And is 32 and a 1 year rental that doesn't fit into the rebuild. Hawks have Korchinski, Vlassic on the left side with a rotation of other NHL ready/near ready prospects in Kaiser, del Mastro, Phillips, Crevier, Allan. Doesn't matter if he is better. Hawks need the roster slots for their young defenseman.

The only way Chicago accepts is if they have a deal in place to retain in a package for a contending team's 1st.

Right, because they have done so well in the NHL this year. The Hawks still need to ice a watchable product, which they haven't been. Orlov, who can play both sides, once again, instantly becomes not only the Hawks best defenseman, but a deadline trade chip. Saying "they need the slot for the young guys" just doesn't make sense. Even rebuilding teams need veterans.

They have kept games competitive and exciting and have played a fairly strong team defense as of late. Their biggest issue is the lack of scoring and the massive amount of injuries they have endured. They don't NEED to do anything. Especially not paying for aging players. Keep Orlov if he is so good. We don't want him.

That point is debatable. Not withstanding, Vlasic has had a terrific season as the 1LD. He's a top 10 player analytically at 5v5 so far this year. He's not coming out of the lineup. Korchinski is getting better and better as the 2LD, and is a certain cornerstone piece for the franchise. He's not coming out of the lineup. Hawks have played two rookies (Phillips and Kaiser) at 3LD this season, and have a former 1st rounder and WjC gold medalist in Allen and AHL all-star and WJC gold medalist DelMastro playing great in the AHL. Those four should be battling in training camp for NHL ice time next season. Can't see the rebuilding Hawks preventing all 4 of those guys from getting NHL ice time next season just to take on Orlov for one season. Really makes no sense at all. He plays a position the Hawks literally have zero need for.

Probably a much better move for the Hawks to use that $7.7m in cap space for a vet RW to play on Bedard's line...

I'd happily keep him, he'd become your best defenseman without much competition. If you don't want good players, that's something I can't help

Orlov's made Jalen Chatfield loo like an NHL defenseman, and that pairing are among the leagues best in xGA... I like Vlasic, but Orlov is streets better. Without much competition, Orlov walks into the best defenseman title in Chitown. It's not close. He's a top pairing caliber D man that Carolina's depth forces to play a much more sheltered role. I know you have good kids that might be something, but Orlov walks in, makes the team way better defensively, and probably nets a 1st + at the deadline again. This would be a braindead move for the Canes to make, Chicago should rightfully take this and run to the hills

lol. Cool then, keep him. I don't know why you are so upset about this and why you and so many other people refuse to see trades from CHI's perspective. What point is there to CHI going for short term improvements and buying veterans that have no place in CHI's future? Good or not, we have no need for Orlov. He would just create an unnecessary road block for our young LHD. Even if he would be our "best dman," we would be arbitrarily improving our position in the standings for someone that isn't going to be here long term, while also giving up valuable draft capital. If you don't see how that makes zero sense for CHI, I don't know what to tell you.

You give up a 4th round pick for someone that would easily net you a 1st plus at the deadline... do not act like this isn't a heist for Chicago as it is

That is way too much for way too long for Martinook. Rather have Noesen with that money. I'd also rather keep Skjei over Pesce, Pesce's skating is going to be a problem very soon.

Easily net a 1st? I doubt that. Especially not at his cap hit or having the extra year on there. He may be decent but he is overpaid, and most teams that would want him can't afford him at that cap hit. Plus, I doubt CAR would sell him for a 4th anyway.

He'd net a first and you're trading him here for a 4th?

Stop and think about that.

I didn't make this, I wouldn't move him. He'd easily net a 1st at the deadline

Orlov sounds amazing! So amazing that there is no chance he would be available for a 4th round pick.

As others have pointed out it would be a brain dead move for Carolina to deal a player who is worth a 1st round pick for a 4th round pick. The only conceivable reason is perhaps Carolina got caught up in FA frenzy and overpaid for an average d-man. $7.75m per season is a steep price to pay for an offensively limited d-man.

Way way WAY too much for Martinook, and Orlov has been fine, he had a rough start but he’s been very good since December. If Noesen has priced himself out, I seriously doubt anyone gives him more than 3M at age 31, so I’d rather have him back for 3M than Martinook.