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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch

Apr. 17 at 7:44 p.m.
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Matthews and the hockey gods having a staring contest. Who blinks first? Guy has been everywhere.


Just let him score so we can sit him the remaining 2 periods u can have the win lul
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Apr. 17 at 7:46 p.m.
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Just let him score so we can sit him the remaining 2 periods u can have the win lul


Let Kuch have an assist first and you got a deal.
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Apr. 17 at 7:50 p.m.
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Oh they absolutely do, and players also crouch down a lot so skates don't always need to go higher than belly button to catch somebody.


The people who say that either never played contact hockey before or have never stepped foot on an ice rink to begin with
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Apr. 17 at 8:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
Matthews and the hockey gods having a staring contest. Who blinks first? Guy has been everywhere.


Still waiting for Kuch's 100th assist too
Apr. 17 at 9:22 p.m.
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The assist to number 86. Nikita Kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucherov.
Apr. 17 at 9:53 p.m.
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Apparently Jeff Carter is retiring
Apr. 17 at 9:56 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Apparently Jeff Carter is retiring


But what's his middle name?
Apr. 17 at 9:56 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Apparently Jeff Carter is retiring


Never forget the Carter linsanity run when the Pens first picked him up
Apr. 17 at 9:57 p.m.
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But what's his middle name?


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Apr. 17 at 9:57 p.m.
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Thank you Capfriendly
Apr. 18 at 12:58 a.m.
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Nice win for the Yotes in their final game. I'm going to miss them so much, feel real bad for the fans. It's a real shame we didn't get to enjoy the Kachinas for longer 😔
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Apr. 18 at 7:59 a.m.
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Edited Apr. 18 at 4:00 p.m.
Imma bring this up at the all star break next season, never again until. I promise.

I use 5v5 rate metrics to compare players. It eliminates special teams usage, ice-time usage differences, empty net goals and 3v3 overtime. It doesn’t matter if one player has more games played or missed time for injury. You can see career trends in rate metrics you cannot see in accumulating stats, and I think 5v5 is as clean as it could get, representing the portion of hockey that often decides who wins and loses, the fairest thing we have to compare two players in different environments.

Since the trade, Michael bunting has higher 5v5 rates than Jake Guentzel in the following categories:

5v5 goals, primary assists, secondary assists, points, hits, takeaways. He’s also sat in the penalty box less and scored more game winning goals.

He is close to but behind Guentzel in shot generation, which makes sense since he goes to the net, but doesn’t discount that Guentzel is clearly better. Guentzel is clearly the better perimeter forward, has much more skill and body, and has a stronger 2-way game, but Bunting is able, and will continue to be able to contribute more to winning hockey by going to the net. The recipe is simple and you don’t have to believe a random internet stranger: literally every coach ever, all age levels, has a speech ready about working hard and going to the dirty areas, and they’re usually giving that speech to guys like Guentzel.

This trade was robbery, absolute robbery. The hurricanes upgraded the penguins, reduced their average age, saved them future money, gave them assurity for the next 2 seasons, and gave them a bag full of futures while freeing themselves of a trap of their own creation - giving Guentzel 21/22 minutes a night. Yet the consensus since day one has been the other way around. Baffling. Bunting isn’t even taking Crosby’s wing! He was with malkin mostly. Rust took Crosby’s wing, was just above point per game from trade deadline on, just like Guentzel (mid) was previously. God help this comparison if bunting got to be Crosby’s tap in merchant for a month.
Apr. 18 at 3:56 p.m.
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https://x.com/PuckReportNHL/status/1781048387170615515

NHL Approves Yotes Relocation to Utah
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Apr. 18 at 4:06 p.m.
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Quoting: BigBallsBriere
https://x.com/PuckReportNHL/status/1781048387170615515

NHL Approves Yotes Relocation to Utah


The city of Winnipeg is dancing on their grave
Apr. 18 at 4:33 p.m.
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Gonna lay out an early prediction

Chycrun wont be a Senator next season

That end of season presser strongly suggests it


Man the Dorion Debrincat and Chycrun experiments went south faster than I think we all could have imagined

1 year with team then gone

Insert Grampa Simpson meme
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Apr. 18 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: BigBallsBriere
https://x.com/PuckReportNHL/status/1781048387170615515

NHL Approves Yotes Relocation to Utah


My friend in Utah is excited, interested to see how they do
Apr. 18 at 5:09 p.m.
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Gonna lay out an early prediction

Chycrun wont be a Senator next season

That end of season presser strongly suggests it


Man the Dorion Debrincat and Chycrun experiments went south faster than I think we all could have imagined

1 year with team then gone

Insert Grampa Simpson meme


Add Korpisalo to that mix.

There is just something seriously wrong with their team structure/defensive system to have that many players that are NHL average or better suck when they are Senators. Then when goalies leave they look amazing all of a sudden. The Senators need an elite coach and some major changes to their accountability/training/roles
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Apr. 18 at 5:17 p.m.
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RIP Coyotes. They were one of the most exciting teams in the dead puck era.

That said, I'm excited to see what Utah does in the offseason. They have 13 top 100 picks in the next 3 drafts. I'm going to predict an offer sheet.
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Apr. 18 at 5:40 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 18 at 6:09 p.m.
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Add Korpisalo to that mix.

There is just something seriously wrong with their team structure/defensive system to have that many players that are NHL average or better suck when they are Senators. Then when goalies leave they look amazing all of a sudden. The Senators need an elite coach and some major changes to their accountability/training/roles


Nobody is taking that contract without a Sweetner and I mean a nice one and OTT already has to forfeit its 2026 1st

Now if OTT takes on another cap dump like Peterson for instance maybe a move happens
Apr. 18 at 6:48 p.m.
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Will say this Coyotes owner Meruelo should be ashamed of himself for not being there the final night of hockey in ARI

I hope he does not bring a team back or get an arena in 5 years and instead gives the rights to someone else (Suns Owner)

He failed them and after all the embarrassing stories with money 0 trust in him
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Apr. 18 at 6:50 p.m.
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Also the reason why the coyotes didn’t relocate to Quebec was simple: Detroit and Columbus would rather fold then move west again
Apr. 18 at 7:09 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Also the reason why the coyotes didn’t relocate to Quebec was simple: Detroit and Columbus would rather fold then move west again


I think Quebec should be saved for expansion rather then just relocation. Kind of like Houston

But first get a team in Saskatchewan so we can fill in the map lul
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Apr. 18 at 7:12 p.m.
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Monahan will play his 83rd game of the season tonight, so much for injury prone
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Apr. 18 at 8:32 p.m.
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If im Chicago I target Chycrun and Necas for trade this OS (at the draft)

Keep their picks but use the extra picks as this draft is kind of weak after the top 10-15

Getting Necas and signing him to an 8 year extension to play with Bedard is smart

Chycrun I could also see fitting in well and signing a long term deal
Apr. 18 at 8:44 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Will say this Coyotes owner Meruelo should be ashamed of himself for not being there the final night of hockey in ARI

I hope he does not bring a team back or get an arena in 5 years and instead gives the rights to someone else (Suns Owner)

He failed them and after all the embarrassing stories with money 0 trust in him


Like the Thrashers before them, ownership failed to Yotes and now the team will move. Meruelo was a problem, he should not get a 2nd chance at a team, Arizona should though, like Atlanta, they have the fans and metro area to have a successful team, it will depends on ownership and a good arena but they can be a good spot
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