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Graves for anyone

Created by: Pens3lieve
Team: 2024-25 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 23, 2024
Published: Mar. 28, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
i'd say this is just for fun but it's not even for fun... just a 10-minute compilation of the weirdest and craziest (and dumbest) ideas to move ryan graves albatross of a contract
Trades
1.
ANA
    LD, RYAN GRAVES, 5x$4.5M
    2.
    ARI
      LD, RYAN GRAVES, 5x$4.5M
      3.
      CHI
        LD, RYAN GRAVES, 5x$4.5M
        4.
        PIT
        1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc ($1,500,000 retained)
        LAK
          LD, RYAN GRAVES, 5x$4.5M
          5.
          PIT
          1. Gallagher, Brendan
          2. Price, Carey ($5,250,000 retained)
          MTL
            LD, RYAN GRAVES, 5x$4.5M
            6.
            NJD
              LD, RYAN GRAVES, 5x$4.5M
              7.
              PIT
              1. Chabot, Thomas ($1,000,000 retained)
              OTT
                LD, RYAN GRAVES, 5x$4.5M
                Buyouts
                Retained Salary Transactions
                DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
                2024
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                2025
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                Logo of the FLA
                2026
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                ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                27$87,500,000$139,111,485$0$0-$51,611,485
                Left WingCentreRight Wing
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                $5,000,000$5,000,000
                LW, RW
                M-NTC
                UFA - 1
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                $8,700,000$8,700,000
                C
                NMC
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $5,125,000$5,125,000
                RW, LW
                NMC
                UFA - 4
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $4,500,000$4,500,000
                LW
                M-NTC
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $6,100,000$6,100,000
                C
                NMC
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $5,000,000$5,000,000
                RW, LW
                M-NTC
                UFA - 4
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $925,000$925,000
                LW
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $2,450,000$2,450,000
                C
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $800,000$800,000
                RW
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
                $6,000,000$6,000,000
                LW
                M-NTC, NMC
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $2,000,000$2,000,000
                C, RW
                M-NTC
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
                $6,250,000$6,250,000
                RW, LW
                NTC
                UFA - 3
                Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                $6,000,000$6,000,000
                LW, RW
                NMC
                UFA - 3
                Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
                $7,000,000$7,000,000
                C
                NMC
                UFA - 7
                Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
                $5,850,000$5,850,000
                RW, C
                M-NTC
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                $3,150,000$3,150,000
                C, LW
                NTC
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
                $6,500,000$6,500,000
                RW, LW
                M-NTC, NMC
                UFA - 3
                Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $4,500,000$4,500,000
                LD
                M-NTC
                UFA - 5
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                $10,000,000$10,000,000
                RD
                NMC
                UFA - 3
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $5,375,000$5,375,000
                G
                M-NTC
                UFA - 4
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $4,025,175$4,025,175
                LD
                M-NTC
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $6,100,000$6,100,000
                RD
                NMC
                UFA - 4
                Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
                $5,250,000$5,250,000
                G
                NMC
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
                $7,857,143$7,857,143
                RD
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
                $4,400,000$4,400,000
                RD
                M-NTC
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $775,000$775,000
                LD
                RFA - 1
                Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                $7,000,000$7,000,000
                LD
                M-NTC
                UFA - 4
                ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                $900,000$900,000
                LW, RW
                UFA - 1

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                Mar. 28 at 12:01 p.m.
                #1
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                Hawks obviously decline Hall and Murphy are both valuable to this team and play positions we lack (RD and Top 6 F). We also want absolutely nothing to do with that Graves contract unless the penguins Top 10 pick this year is attached to it.
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                Mar. 28 at 12:02 p.m.
                #2
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                Edited Mar. 28 at 12:46 p.m.
                None of these teams say yes, the MTL trade is probably the closest to saying yes but no one else is anywhere close to it.

                Edit: I did not notice there was a 50% retention on the MTL trade so I retract my statement. None of these teams are even close to accepting.
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                Mar. 28 at 12:02 p.m.
                #3
                "Go sell ice cream!"
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                Doubt any of these are considerations.
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                Mar. 28 at 12:02 p.m.
                #4
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                Graves would be LA's 3LD behind Gavrikov and Anderson, he'd also cost $5.5M against the cap with the PLD inclusion. I can't see any world where Blake keeps his job if he did this trade.
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                Mar. 28 at 12:13 p.m.
                #5
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                Quoting: Hckeydude123
                None of these teams say yes, the MTL trade is probably the closest to saying yes but no one else is anywhere close to it.


                They're actually the furthest, as they go from carrying Price's entire contract on LTIR to having to having half of it as salary retention. Its effectively them swapping a player that they have a spot for for a player they don't, and both increasing the term and cap space devoted to bad contracts.
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                Mar. 28 at 12:19 p.m.
                #6
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                Why are the Habs retaining on Price's LTIR contract, that makes no sense
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                Mar. 28 at 12:19 p.m.
                #7
                Tank it baby
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                Pens are stuck with Graves.

                No team will want any part of his contract.

                5 more years at 4.5 mil AAV.
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                Mar. 28 at 12:25 p.m.
                #8
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                Quoting: Burnout
                They're actually the furthest, as they go from carrying Price's entire contract on LTIR to having to having half of it as salary retention. Its effectively them swapping a player that they have a spot for for a player they don't, and both increasing the term and cap space devoted to bad contracts.


                I was so distracted by how bad these trades were that I didnt even notice there was retention lol I change my statement.
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                Mar. 28 at 1:03 p.m.
                #9
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                Some things to consider
                1. Dubas said Graves isnt going anywhere on the GM show yesterday
                2. Graves looks a lot worse than his metrics, hes actually not that bad. just overpaid
                3. All the Pens Dmen are having historically bad seasons, suggests coaching is the problem.
                4. On his last 2 teams Graves started with a bad season then found his game the next.
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                Mar. 28 at 1:18 p.m.
                #10
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                Ottawa tells you to kick rocks.
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                Mar. 28 at 1:59 p.m.
                #11
                Snowhawk
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                You need to add two 1st round picks going to Chicago if you want Davidson to even entertain your offer.
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                Mar. 28 at 3:59 p.m.
                #12
                Novistic
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                you're not gonna get schmaltz for him, even if you take weber
                 
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