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Forum: Armchair-GMNov 14, 2019 at 3:09
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leaflet</b></div><div>1. ".. he doesn't play to the Leafs skills. The leafs are a fast and skilled team and yet are playing a defensive style game."

I've heard that line many times on social media. I don't know where that idea comes from. The Leafs don't play defensively. We are among the very worst teams in goals allowed. And we have been for years. Yesterday against the Isles, the Leafs were playing offensively during the first two periods, and dominating. They lost because they make fatal mistakes in their own zone. Defensive play is their weakness.

What I don't like about Babcock is line/TOI usage. Matthews didn't play enough last year, and should have more time this year. Maybe that's what you mean by "playing defensively", but that's not the same.

2. PPs around the league score on one-timers, or because of the threat of one-timers. We have only one player on the team who can take one timers: Barrie. Aside from Matthews who has been developing it but doesn't use it consistently. The solution is simple.

3. Glad that Dubas spoke on the Ceci case. Leaf fans' subjective appreciation of our D has become preposterous. Holl is doing great, but placing him against top opposition is not going to help him, or the team. Meanwhile, Ceci has proven to be very reliable, and plays above expectations. He's not elite, and not great at zone exits. But he's the best defensive player on the roster this year. Can't afford to lose him.</div></div>

Ceci being the best defensive player is a hot take for the ages. He hasn't been a pile of garbage but he also hasn't been good. He is really not at all capable of playing against top players and for being such a big guy he doesn't do very well clearing the front of the net either. He also is just hands down not good on the PK. I think if he was on the bottom pair the team would benefit greatly. Move Dermott to the right side with Rielly and that pair will be good. I think Holl has been really solid all year. He just goes out there and plays simple and smart. Personally I'd move Dermott up to the top pair, get rid of Ceci and bring Sandin back up to play on the bottom pair with Holl.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 14, 2019 at 2:54
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leaflet</b></div><div>1. ".. he doesn't play to the Leafs skills. The leafs are a fast and skilled team and yet are playing a defensive style game."

I've heard that line many times on social media. I don't know where that idea comes from. The Leafs don't play defensively. We are among the very worst teams in goals allowed. And we have been for years. Yesterday against the Isles, the Leafs were playing offensively during the first two periods, and dominating. They lost because they make fatal mistakes in their own zone. Defensive play is their weakness.

What I don't like about Babcock is line/TOI usage. Matthews didn't play enough last year, and should have more time this year. Maybe that's what you mean by "playing defensively", but that's not the same.

2. PPs around the league score on one-timers, or because of the threat of one-timers. We have only one player on the team who can take one timers: Barrie. Aside from Matthews who has been developing it but doesn't use it consistently. The solution is simple.

3. Glad that Dubas spoke on the Ceci case. Leaf fans' subjective appreciation of our D has become preposterous. Holl is doing great, but placing him against top opposition is not going to help him, or the team. Meanwhile, Ceci has proven to be very reliable, and plays above expectations. He's not elite, and not great at zone exits. But he's the best defensive player on the roster this year. Can't afford to lose him.</div></div>

Missed muzzin Rielly and Dermott on one timers. Don’t let Dermott fool you. He actually can load up a heavy shot.

I think it is a lot of brain farts. The systems seem to work well but a couple times a period things go to the ****s for 1 second and other teams seems to capitalize quite easily. Not sure how you fix that. It could just be something that takes time.

Matthews needs to play more... period. The Matthews and Tavares lines should have much more time than the 3rd and 4th. The Matthews line should also have more time than JT’s line.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 27, 2019 at 6:50
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Both you and <a href="/users/palhal" target="_blank">@palhal</a> made good points on different things and you and I already admitted to maybe Hainsey being a bigger part of Rielly's success.

<a href="/users/Trickster" target="_blank">@Trickster</a> makes a good point about needing more time for these D pairs...but seeing as the Leafs are not racking up the points in this part of the season, it's a huge concern because the second half of the will be tougher.</div></div>

Yeah, I think Trickster makes a good point about the d needing to get used to each other. And I think that it'll only help when Dertmott comes back. But I still think the biggest problem is the systems that Babcock is deploying more so than the personnel he has at his disposal.

Going back to Palhal's point re: how they've been a 500 team since last December, if I remember correctly, they came out of the gates like gangbusters last season and were routinely outscoring their opponents at will. Iirc, the team's slide to mediocrity and 500 hockey began pretty much at the same time as when he tightened the screws to their offense. Babcock didn't like all those high scoring games that they were winning last year.

And I think that's the rub. Babcock doesn't coach to the team's strengths. He coaches to his strengths. And I think that's where the mismatch lies. He's not the right guy to take this team to the next level, imo.

So, there's two choices really i) make a bunch of trades to get players that fit Babcock's idea of a good team or, ii) trade Babcock and bring in a coach who can play to this team's strengths. Choice number 2 makes more sense to me.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 27, 2019 at 5:24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>At least right now....Gardiner is better than Barrie, Zaitsev is better than Ceci and Hainsey is better than any Holl/Marinicn, Sandin combo. Plus Dermot is injured. Reilly has been carelessly reckless at times this year
So the Leafs have taken a hit on even their middling defence from last year.

I don't know if Shanahan and the owners have the savvy/courage to fire Babcock. IMO they should. The Leafs have in the past 20 years have a long history of player buyouts and firing executives and coaches. So won't be a question of money if Babcock gets fired. He has to be fired at the latest if the Leafs aren't playing in May 2020</div></div>

Barring some massive turn around over the next few weeks I think they need to shake things up, and the easiest way to do that is to can Babcock. As you rightly point out in a separate thread, the way the leafs are playing this season is nothing new - they've been close to a 500 team since last December.

You and a few others have speculated that he's lost the room - I'd agree with that. All coaches are hired to more or less be fired later on. Before the leafs start into roster surgery, I think they need to see what a new coach can do with this squad.

Re: Shanahan and the rest of the brass having the guts to fire Babcock. Well, if courage is the only thing holding them back from making this decision then they should be the next ones sent packing. Increasingly, I'm getting the sense that there's a bit too much ego/personality connected with the leafs. They talk alot about creating a family atmosphere on the team and in the locker room. Who really knows what that's like unless you're part of the room, but from the outside looking in it seems to me that there's more than a few guys who put themselves ahead of the team.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 16, 2019 at 6:49