SalarySwishSalarySwish
Avatar

Random2152

Just Keep Swimming
Member Since
Jun. 30, 2018
Favourite Team
Toronto Maple Leafs
Forum Posts
9243
Posts per Day
4.3
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsFeb. 15 at 3:37 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 4 - Mid Season Slump
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I mean, they could ship Lilly for a 1st+ like Sandin, then combine their own 1rst, the one given to them in the Lilly deal and add in a 3rd or something for the value?

Let's just say both picks are the 27th and 28th pick... That's roughly 585 in pick value compared to the 665 in pick value for the number 7 overall pick has... The gap for that is a 5th according to this chart: https://theleafsnation.com/news/is-it-worth-it-to-trade-up-in-the-nhl-draft (have to scroll down a little lol)... So maybe Lilly+1st could get it done?

And I guess it would depend on how BT fells on Dickinson</div></div>

Dickinson is ranked from 3-7 rn. Its gonna take way more than 2 late 1sts and a 3rd to climb that draft. And I doubt a teams gonna drop from that position anyway

Basically unless his season slips and he falls its not happening. Its basically nice to fantasize but at the same time I dont think we gonna still have that pick
Forum: Chicago BlackhawksJan. 18 at 7:07 a.m.
Thread: The owners should be forced out of the league
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Earth</b></div><div>I'm actually embarrassed for you by your response to Garak. Seems like you just want a reason to **** on the Blackhawks than advocate for the actual issue at hand.

Here are some examples spanning multiple teams and leagues to educate yourself:
- <a href="https://www.upi.com/Archives/1990/06/29/Capitals-not-indicted-in-alleged-rape-of-17-year-old-girl/5735646632000/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Scott Stevens, Dino Ciccarelli, Geoff Courtnall and Neil Sheehy rape a 17 year old girl</a>
- <a href="https://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/hockey-canada-scandal-and-allegations-against-the-2018-world-junior-men-s-hockey-team-are/article_61a55141-699f-5d87-8396-da1672f6165e.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">2018 Hockey Canada</a>
- <a href="https://thehockeynews.com/news/carcillos-former-teammates-back-up-hazing-and-sexual-assault-allegations" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Carcillo Hazing and sexual assault allegations while playing in the OHL</a>
- <a href="https://www.waff.com/story/22130193/uah-hockey-player-charged-with-rape-flees-to-finland/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Lasse Uusivirta faced rape charges and fled the country</a>
- <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/headlines/michael-minard-former-maple-leafs-bulldogs-goalie-jailed-for-sexts-with-teen-1.2757267" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Michael Minard pleads guilty on sexual misconduct charges involving a 13 year old girl</a>
- <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/ex-nhler-mike-mcbain-gets-prison-in-child-sex-case-1.1366357" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Michael McBain sexually assaults a 12 year old girl </a>

Oh, and here's one for your favorite team - <a href="https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/maple-leaf-gardens-sex-scandal" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">The Maple Leaf Garden Sex Scandal</a></div></div>

Imagine being such a homer you think pointing out other atrocities makes your team look less horrific.

Grow up and get a grip
Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 8 at 4:42 p.m.
Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>First of all, Nylander is worth 11 mil. I've been saying this for a long time now. If you don't think so - you're simply wrong

Second, he signed at a similar cap% as comparable wingers at the time like Benn, Stone, and Perry. Don't let the raw number fool you this isnt out of the blue.

Third and most importantly, Trev completely ****ed this negotiation up. If they were scared Nylander might walk - the time to "cave in" was in the summer. As it stands Nylander is at peak value and there is no reason to cave now 30 some odd games after refusing to go above 9mil. They should have waited out the year and let Reinhart get a comparable deal or let Willie cool off. Even if he didn't they could always just pay him this in June no problem. No one in the league can match 92 million dollars!

There was no risk!

What a horrible GM Trev has turned out to be. Worst fears confirmed about him

Fourth, I am very exited to have Willie be a life long leaf. Amazing player who has the perfect mentality for the market. Ideal Leaf and for that reason its still a good deal even with Trev being a panicky idiot.

I expect CF to vote it down. They also voted down both Matthews deals so that should tell you how little you should value that

Of course there are the usual worries about deals like this aging but I don't see any reason to suggest the risk is any more than any other comparable star so whatever. Would have liked us to get this down to 5 or 6 years given the aav, but I'll live with it.

<img class="for_img" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDVC7IAWgAI_jSc?format=jpg&amp;name=small" alt="GDVC7IAWgAI_jSc?format=jpg&amp;name=small">

I figure he will drop down to somewhere around a point per game to a 100 point pace for the next few years, and that's fine for what he will cost</div></div>

Excellent excellent post. I agree with pretty much everything you said. The man got what he deserved, and Toronto is lucky to have him. Tre really screwed the pooch though, should have done closer to 10m in the offseason and this would have been seen as a huge win at this point in the season. Now, it is a slight overpayment.