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Fair for everyone TOR NYR

Created by: DocArin0
Initial Creation Date: Jan 18, 2020
Published: Jan 18 at 10:56 am
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
Thoughts?
Trades
TOR
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Georgiev, Alexandar
NYR
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Moore, Trevor
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$80,108,809$0$1,052,500$1,391,191
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
NYR
Andersson, Lias
$894,166
C, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 5
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
$694,444
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
$792,500
G
RFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Ceci, Cody
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
$700,000
G
UFA - 1

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Jan 18 at 10:58
#1
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Kapanen+Moore for Georgiev+Fast
Jan 18 at 10:58
#2
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Leafs AGM targeting Georgiev post #572
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Jan 18 at 11:00
#3
Thread Starter
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Leafs AGM targeting Georgiev post #572


True I wanted to go for Peterson/Campbell but I figured they were both out of the question
Jan 18 at 11:06
#4
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Leafs AGM targeting Georgiev post #572


Agree. Though this is one of the better ones
Jan 18 at 11:06
#5
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And i was losing it with NYR homers posting sh.t deals sending over 3,08 GAA Backup........
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Jan 18 at 11:29
#6
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Leafs AGM targeting Georgiev post #572


Completely ridiculous.
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Jan 18 at 11:30
#7
get off my lawn...
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Thought? No way Toronto does this. Moore>andersson and kapanen>georgiev.
Jan 18 at 11:31
#8
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Kapanen+Moore for Georgiev+Fast


I wouldn’t touch that either.
Jan 18 at 11:32
#9
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Quoting: Laudan
And i was losing it with NYR homers posting sh.t deals sending over 3,08 GAA Backup........


Wait until you see all the trades featuring a marlie in the last year of his ELC with zero nhl games despite a myriad of injuries and signings
Jan 18 at 11:33
#10
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Thought? No way Toronto does this. Moore>andersson and kapanen>georgiev.


Leafs fans who claim Bracco is still developing claim their 4th line energy guy is better than the 7th overall pick of 2017
Jan 18 at 11:40
#11
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Thought? No way Toronto does this. Moore>andersson and kapanen>georgiev.


Not just that.......3,08 GAA Backup would be Timashov / Moore + 3rd max, so that leaves Kapanen and a 2nd for a soaking Swede that is curently of no use for theTeam and not living to his Draft expectations.......
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Jan 18 at 11:51
#12
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Edited Jan 18 at 3:04
Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Leafs fans who claim Bracco is still developing claim their 4th line energy guy is better than the 7th overall pick of 2017


Who has been a bust, didn't show well in the AHL and has done nothing in the NHL. Our 7th round pick Engval is better than the aforementioned 7th overall pick. Let's maybe just not be ridiculous
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Jan 18 at 11:52
#13
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Leafs fans who claim Bracco is still developing claim their 4th line energy guy is better than the 7th overall pick of 2017


Which one is an nhl player and which one is suspended without pay and a cancer no one wants?
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Jan 18 at 11:52
#14
warnken21
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Quoting: Laudan
Not just that.......3,08 GAA Backup would be Timashov / Moore + 3rd max, so that leaves Kapanen and a 2nd for a soaking Swede that is curently of no use for theTeam and not living to his Draft expectations.......


when you guys acquire Georgiev you won't be saying that.... and trust me, it will happen
Jan 18 at 11:52
#15
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Who has been a busy, didn't show well in the AHL and has done nothing in the NHL. Our 7th round pick Engval is better than the aforementioned 7th overall pick. Let's maybe just not be ridiculous


I'm not the ridiculous one here
Jan 18 at 11:53
#16
Old Timer
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Georgiev to Toronto makes no sense unless the Leags see him as their starter in a year or two. If that is the case, he is worth more than a guy like Bracco who still somehow isn't seen as worth a look in Toronto. If they just want a backup there are plenty of vets out there that can be had for a mid round pick.
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Jan 18 at 11:54
#17
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Leafs fans who claim Bracco is still developing claim their 4th line energy guy is better than the 7th overall pick of 2017

Bracco is pretty much Alex nylander 2.0. Neither has a 200ft game. The only difference is we have a bunch of good wingers so no need to force him in.
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Jan 18 at 11:55
#18
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Which one is an nhl player and which one is suspended without pay and a cancer no one wants?


Stay classy referring to someone dealing with a mental health issue (dont pretend you didnt know) as a cancer. I wonder why people arent more forthcoming in these situations
Jan 18 at 11:56
#19
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Stay classy referring to someone dealing with a mental health issue (dont pretend you didnt know) as a cancer. I wonder why people arent more forthcoming in these situations


Actually I didn’t know. But does that up his trade value? No.
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Jan 18 at 11:57
#20
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Actually I didn’t know. But does that up his trade value? No.


It ups your jerk factor.
Jan 18 at 12:05
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I'm not the ridiculous one here


Anderson has shown he was a bad pick.
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Jan 18 at 12:27
#22
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Quoting: Laudan
And i was losing it with NYR homers posting sh.t deals sending over 3,08 GAA Backup........


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Wait until you see all the trades featuring a marlie in the last year of his ELC with zero nhl games despite a myriad of injuries and signings


I agree there are lots of Leafs fans wanting Georgiev for next to nothing, but this here is just ugly.
Andersson doesn't seem likely to be an NHL player long term at this point. I wouldn't trade Moore for him straight up.
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Jan 18 at 12:30
#23
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Quoting: WalterT
Georgiev to Toronto makes no sense unless the Leags see him as their starter in a year or two. If that is the case, he is worth more than a guy like Bracco who still somehow isn't seen as worth a look in Toronto. If they just want a backup there are plenty of vets out there that can be had for a mid round pick.


Thank you! What I've been thinking too.
He is RFA in the offseason, and will cost too much for TML to re-sign, so what it's the attraction? Buy low on Ryan Miller, or Aaron Dell, who are pure rentals from lottery teams...
Jan 18 at 1:32
#24
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Although I Georgiev and think it he is desirable piece at sometime,, that is way too much a price to pay by the Leafs...or any team.

Lias Anderssen right now....zero NHL trading value.
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Jan 18 at 1:34
#25
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Fair is as fair does
 
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