If Detroit wins the Draft Lottery, there’s no way they move the pick unless they get a kings ransom! I think the only way the #1 pick could be moved is if a borderline playoff team like say Winnipeg, Florida, Nashville, or New York won and wanted to speed up that asset and traded it for pieces to help them now.

100% agree. The only way he lands vasilefski(how do u spell that) money is if he goes back to 2016-17 Murray 10 times over and say has a sv % of .930 and a GAA of 2.20 and wins us the cup this year and next year...
He’ll provably take 4Mish for a year to fight Jarry for the job then whoever loses or is too expensive will be shopped or go to Seattle.

Andrei Vasilevskiy, lol

anyone can be a bust.

Sean Day was a bust.
Nail Yakupov was a bust.
Patrik Stefan was a bust.
Alexandre Daigle was a bust.

there are lots of busts who were projected as the next "hero" at some point or another.
The whole point of drafting is you never really know.

But I really want to know who "A lot of people believe Alexis Lafreniere is going to be a bust. " are?

Dude, please just stop with these posts. It makes the rest of us pens fans look bad. It’s not even funny anymore. Most people don’t know you’re a troll and it just makes the rest of our fan group look bad. This is your second account anyways because your first one was deleted so you shouldn’t even be on here anyways.

I agree, but I also think that Matthews & Stutzle, they played on a more stacked team than Lafreniere so it sort of justifies why Lafreniere is getting picked first despite playing in weaker competition. This Rimouski team, they are not strong compared to other junior teams. For example, MacKinnon had Drouin, Weegar, Fucale & Frk. Marner had Tkachuk, Dvorak, Jones, Thomas, Mete, Juolevi & Bouchard. Lafreniere is carrying his team making guys like Pare & Zavgorodiny look decent. That’s some incredible stuff.

The hardest part about Lafreniere comparisons is he actually plays his position defensively extremely well, along with the offensive talent (especially since he's not a C, but a LW). Not only is he just plain responsible on the defensive side, but he backchecks and battles in corners, which can have an effect on his counting numbers (too bad they don't have Corsi, Fenwick, or any other advanced stats for CHL teams). Usually, guys at this level of talent and age can just out talent their mistakes, instead of trying to outwork mistakes, and it takes them a year or two in the NHL to learn that (McDavid had that issue in his first year really bad, but learned very quickly, so did Crosby even with all those points).

Lafreniere is not on McDavid or Crosby's level, but could be one of the more talented non-Cs to be drafted in recent years. He is definitely better than Hischier and Patrick, and maybe even Jack Hughes. I saw someone say Taylor Hall, probably a better defensively version of Taylor Hall.

Just add this guy to your mute list. This is his second account on here. He’s trying to make pens fans look bad. Don’t give him the time of day.

I asked a genuine question about whether or not his game will translate well to the NHL level. There are many people on YouTube, Twitter & Instagram who say he’s nothing special.

already done

How about Poulin, Legare, Joseph & Murray for Lafreniere?

I won’t be a generational talent Like Crosby or Mcdavid! He play a lot like Peter Forsberg, a lot a skill with a physical edge, great skater, good shoot, excellent passing skill. Don’t expect him to put 80 point next season on team like Detroit he will likely need a couple of season before raising is stock to the elite level.

I mean.... I wish but never would happen

Dude, it’s not happening. Just stop. This site is for (somewhat) realistic trade discussions. The only way Pens land Laf is if they do the draft lottery like they did in 2005 when every team had a chance. (Which is actually an interesting armchair to make lol)

yes you are right i doubt you will be a generational talent sorry

Thank you for the analysis. I agree, I’ve noticed that he’s a good defensive Forward & he goes into the corner. Do you think he can be better than Pastrnak & Matthews?

Well if the season gets cancelled, maybe they will do that type of draft lottery.

LOL, Love the new pic of D. Murray

Alexandre Daigle was probably the only one in that list that was really projected as a super elite star. Yakupov was not a consensus 1st overall i a extremely weak draft year. Patrick stefan was drafted on a early 2000 draft where hockey talent was very rare at that time, not a big draft year. And sean day have received the exceptional status but have never enter conversation to even be a 1st overall pick.

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Well there’s lots of people on YouTube, Twitter & Instagram who believe that Lafreniere stinks.

Si ta rien d’intelligent Farme toi

vous avez peut-être raison

That's the whole point on Sean Day. Did you not read what I typed. All of them at one point were considered the next great player. Including him. They all ended up being busts.
You have a lot of excuses for guys who were drafted 1st over all who didn't become anything. No matter how you want to put it they were busts. Because if you are going 1st over all the people drafting you are saying, you will at least become something of value.
Lets also be honest. This is a short list. There are more out there.
In the end trying to argue the fact that being drafted a consensus number 1 is somehow being immune from being a bust is naive at best.

Penguins legend. Best skater I’ve ever seen. Makes Crosby’s edgework look bad.