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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 29, 2020
Published: Aug. 29, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$5,900,000
3$2,400,000
2$1,700,000
2$925,000
2$880,000
7$7,000,000
2$1,750,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,850,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
Who MTL should draft at 10 ?
Trade the pick for a big RW ?
Now that's the base of the trade, let's talk about it
WPG
  1. Danault, Phillip
Additional Details:
Danault have an extension in place
WPG get their 2C
Lundell goes at 9th
Now that's the base of the trade, let's talk about it
2.
MTL
  1. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 1st round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
We don't want a LHD back
Interresting piece :
Newhook
Timmins
Kaut
Beaucage
Jost
2020 1st
2021 1st
COL
  1. Tatar, Tomas
Additional Details:
Tatar comes with an extension
3.
MTL
  1. Mantha, Anthony [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
MTL interresting pieces :
-Ryan Poehling C
-Cale Fleury RHD
-Cayden Primeau G
-Jesse Ylonen RW
-Jordan Harris LHD
-Cam Hillis C
-MTL/CHI 2020 2nd Rd Pick
DET
  1. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
10th OA
What MTL would need to add ?
Untouchable :
-Suzuki
-Kotkaniemi
-Romanov
-Norlinder
-Caufield
4.
MTL
  1. Caggiula, Drake [RFA Rights]
CHI
  1. 2021 4th round pick (STL)
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2020
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2021
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23$81,500,000$76,019,643$0$3,137,500$5,480,357
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
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C
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UFA - 1
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LD/RD
M-NTC
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RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$2,850,000$2,850,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$880,000$880,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
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Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:46 p.m.
#51
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Quoting: bunzy1034
I mean if Lundell isn’t there I don’t see why you don’t at least consider this. Danault is exactly the type of player we have been needing for years and we don’t need Sanderson or a winger at this spot. It’s either reach for a player at 10, trade it for a very good player like Danault or trade down.


You know full well, even if lundell is there, the jets are picking whoever they see fit, and majority of the time it’s not who the fanbase wants or thinks they should, probably some USA development kid and the fanbase will be hollering til he lights it up by Xmas. My prediction is on past track record over should or could
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Is he worth more than domi?


Seriously ? Yes big time
Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:46 p.m.
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You Americans are something else. Every players can be trade for a price, you can say that the 10th OA + every players/picks listed on the left side is not enough for DET to trade Mantha. We can switch to French if you can't understand me, at least I AM doing an effort to write in another language


No your explanation was sufficient. Now I do think your comment about American's was completely uncalled for and bigoted. If you want to call me name that's fine but I seriously think you owe the other Americans an apology. You do realize attacking me does nothing to prove or disprove my statement. But I was serious about the apology.
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Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:50 p.m.
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No your explanation was sufficient. Now I do think your comment about American's was completely uncalled for and bigoted. If you want to call me name that's fine but I seriously think you owe the other Americans an apology. You do realize attacking me does nothing to prove or disprove my statement. But I was serious about the apology.


You are right, I shouldn't target Americans in general because that's just ridiculous, I should target only you. I just don't understand your mentality ( man you can't even speak properly our language HAHA ! ) You're statement is Mantha is worth a Blue chip prospect + 10th OA nothing less right ?
Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Suzuki_Cup
Not here to start a debate, but sometimes seem that DET fans think Montreal NEEDS Mantha, and that they would be ready to offer their whole team for him. Now, every single offer is the worst they have ever seen. We could get way better player than Mantha if we trade someone like Caufield...


We dont think you have to have him its just hes in 75% of the Montreal posts in like the last 3 or 4 days. We dont want to move him. I mean we have like 6 players we can't afford to move 1 unless the return is overwhelming. Its like every other leafs post has us taking johnsson for a this years 2nd rounder.
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Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.
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We dont think you have to have him its just hes in 75% of the Montreal posts in like the last 3 or 4 days. We dont want to move him. I mean we have like 6 players we can't afford to move 1 unless the return is overwhelming. Its like every other leafs post has us taking johnsson for a this years 2nd rounder.


Sorry, I thought 10th OA + one of Primeau / Struble / Ylonen was enough of an overpay
Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:53 p.m.
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You are right, I shouldn't target Americans in general because that's just ridiculous, I should target only you. I just don't understand your mentality ( man you can't even speak properly our language HAHA ! ) You're statement is Mantha is worth a Blue chip prospect + 10th OA nothing less right ?


Not to knit pick but that isn't an apology. Admitting you are wrong and apologizing are 2 different things.
Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:53 p.m.
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Yeah you never know with Chevy but I’m almost 99% confident that if Chevy still has Lundell on the board he will not pass
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Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
We dont think you have to have him its just hes in 75% of the Montreal posts in like the last 3 or 4 days. We dont want to move him. I mean we have like 6 players we can't afford to move 1 unless the return is overwhelming. Its like every other leafs post has us taking johnsson for a this years 2nd rounder.


Same thing for us with Suzuki, Caufield, Romanov, Kotkaniemi...
Edit : I could even add Mattias Norlinder (man this guy seems goooooooood!!!)
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Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:54 p.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
Not to knit pick but that isn't an apology. Admitting you are wrong and apologizing are 2 different things.


I apology
Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:54 p.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
No your explanation was sufficient. Now I do think your comment about American's was completely uncalled for and bigoted. If you want to call me name that's fine but I seriously think you owe the other Americans an apology. You do realize attacking me does nothing to prove or disprove my statement. But I was serious about the apology.


Border doesn’t change the craziness of fanbases, shouldn’t come into the statements on here. Bias and stubbornness comes with all passports
Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:58 p.m.
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Sorry, I thought 10th OA + one of Primeau / Struble / Ylonen was enough of an overpay


Well depends, draft day trade and someone drops in the draft I could part with the big guy. If would hurt but if it fits the rebuild. I wouldnt want to move him in the division but we'll be bad for a while so it has less negative impact.
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Aug. 29, 2020 at 7:59 p.m.
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Yeah you never know with Chevy but I’m almost 99% confident that if Chevy still has Lundell on the board he will not pass


Lundell is gonna be a nice player
Aug. 29, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Suzuki_Cup
Same thing for us with Suzuki, Caufield, Romanov, Kotkaniemi...
Edit : I could even add Mattias Norlinder (man this guy seems goooooooood!!!)


Well atleast we can hate on leafs fans together
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Aug. 29, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
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In answer to what Montreal would need to add to get Mantha. One of the guys listed as untouchable. Detroit has no reason to make that move without them. No matter how much Mete + a 2nd gets played up by Habs fans.


So by this logic Montreal gets the same package for Domi cause they are pretty well equal players. And Danault gets 2 1sts + 2nd + 3rd + an A+++ prospect cause he is better than both Domi and Mantha combined!
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Aug. 29, 2020 at 8:06 p.m.
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Jost and 1st even on an extension is to much. Newhook and Timmins are a pipe dream for MTL. What about Jost and Beaucage for Tatar and contingent on an extension?
Aug. 29, 2020 at 8:39 p.m.
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Jost and 1st even on an extension is to much. Newhook and Timmins are a pipe dream for MTL. What about Jost and Beaucage for Tatar and contingent on an extension?


Other MTL fans think Jost + 2021 1st isn’t enough for Tatar so I don’t know why you’re saying Jost + 2021 1st is too much for Tatar with an extension
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Aug. 29, 2020 at 9:54 p.m.
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Given that Suzuki, KK, and Romanov are off limits. I’d ask for 10OV + 16OV and I know Montreal fans are going to hate it but that’s what it would require to get our best offensive weapon in division.
Aug. 29, 2020 at 9:58 p.m.
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Given that Suzuki, KK, and Romanov are off limits. I’d ask for 10OV + 16OV and I know Montreal fans are going to hate it but that’s what it would require to get our best offensive weapon in division.


In other words, no more Mantha trade
ok
Aug. 29, 2020 at 10:20 p.m.
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Quoting: math731
WPG must add... Even though I find it very unlikely for MB to trade Danault.

Mantha would be great but not at the cost of both the 10th OA and Primeau for instance.

Also, trading Tatar for a bust and a late first isnt worth it imo.

Heres what Id do :

Domi and 16th OA to MIN for Boldy and 9th OA

9th OA, Alzner, Mete and Poehling for Mantha

As for Tatar, I wouldnt move him for less than what TOR got for Kap. NAS would be a great fit imo. For their 2021 first (top 3 protect and hope they have a bad season) or 11th OA if they feel like it.

Finally, a cap dump trade in which we would acquire an extra first rounder in 2021 (Eriksson, Steen?).


lmao minny declines
Aug. 29, 2020 at 10:22 p.m.
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lmao minny declines

Not so sure tbh... Domi is worth more than Boldy. The difference is filled with the two picks switch. This would happen if none of Rossi or Lundell (unless they dont like him) are available at 9. MIN could still grab a lesser C prospect at 16th if wanted
Aug. 29, 2020 at 10:23 p.m.
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Is he worth more than domi?


by a mile
Aug. 29, 2020 at 10:26 p.m.
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Not so sure tbh... Domi is worth more than Boldy. The difference is filled with the two picks switch. This would happen if none of Rossi or Lundell (unless they dont like him) are available at 9. MIN could still grab a lesser C prospect at 16th if wanted


no i think id rather have boldy tbh
Aug. 29, 2020 at 10:29 p.m.
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no i think id rather have boldy tbh


Still a prospect... He may never play in the NHL so theres a risk from MTLs end. Plus what are the chances he becomes a 60-70 pts player just like Domi. They are thin considering the amount of players in each drafts who put those kind of numbers.

But I get it. I prefer him too since Im trading Domi to acquire him
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Aug. 29, 2020 at 11:09 p.m.
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In other words, no more Mantha trade
ok

Given the 10OA isn’t a lock to be a top 6/4 player there is a risk associated with it. I just randomly picked 2000 to 2017 and here are the 10OA picks I’d take over Mantha: Brodin (2011), Rantanen (2015). I was going to list them but it was so much easier to list the ones I’d take over him, so there’s the list and I’m actually rather shocked how poorly 10OA has been over the last two decades. So yeah, 10OA + 16OA or we can discuss Suzuki or KK.
 
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