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Team: 2020-21 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 3, 2020
Published: Oct. 3, 2020
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  1. Hamilton, Dougie
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From @NHL_AaronWard on the Freddie Andersen talk between Leafs/Canes: Leafs wanted Dougie Hamilton, and that was a non-starter.
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2020
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2021
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17$81,500,000$72,973,989$1,367,073$3,187,500$8,526,011
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
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Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:37 p.m.
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That guy isn't an insider.
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Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
That guy isn't an insider.


came from pagnotta who paraphrased, so im going to trust it.
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.
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Dubas the great negotiator
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Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:41 p.m.
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Quoting: nbass
came from pagnotta who paraphrased, so im going to trust it.


This is classic periphery media saying nonsense to fire up leaf haters and leaf fans alike. No one would think Hamilton for Andersen is a fair deal.
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Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:41 p.m.
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Dubas the great negotiator


He did just get a major haul for Kapanen so
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:42 p.m.
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Omg. People on this site are so stupid. He said the Leafs asked for Hamilton. Obviously Dubas is going to ask for more than he can get to start a negotiation. That's how it works. You don't ask for less and expect to get more. Learn something and stop trying to bash on a guy just because he works for the Leafs.
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Omg. People on this site are so stupid. He said the Leafs asked for Hamilton. Obviously Dubas is going to ask for more than he can get to start a negotiation. That's how it works. You don't ask for less and expect to get more. Learn something and stop trying to bash on a guy just because he works for the Leafs.


When does Dubas call Edmonton and ask for McDavid?
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:44 p.m.
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wow dubas is an idiot. should be fired immediately
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Omg. People on this site are so stupid. He said the Leafs asked for Hamilton. Obviously Dubas is going to ask for more than he can get to start a negotiation. That's how it works. You don't ask for less and expect to get more. Learn something and stop trying to bash on a guy just because he works for the Leafs.


youd lose credibility doing this though, the value isint even close to being close imo
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:45 p.m.
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The balls on Dubas to ask for Hamilton LMFAO! I love it! Its good way of establishing what you want for player and then "lowering" the expectations down to like Pesce.
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Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:46 p.m.
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When does Dubas call Edmonton and ask for McDavid?


Johnsson for Mcdavid take it or leave it....hello...
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Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:48 p.m.
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Pretty sure Dubas didn't go into those talks expecting a Dougie for Freddie 1-for-1. Probably inquired about Hamilton's availability as part of a larger deal that Andersen could be a part of (since the Hurricanes were supposedly interested). And what's he going to do - not ask about the incredible right shot Dman when that's their greatest need? He wouldn't be doing his due diligence as a GM if he didn't.
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Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:48 p.m.
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Quoting: OlegP
When does Dubas call Edmonton and ask for McDavid?


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youd lose credibility doing this though, the value isint even close to being close imo


You don't call and ask for less value. His team's need is a right handed d-man. Hamilton is the best one with only a year left on his deal. He ASKED about Hamilton. Never demanded it. Start there and work the way down to something both teams agree on.. that's the definition of negotiating.
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:48 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
The balls on Dubas to ask for Hamilton LMFAO! I love it! Its good way of establishing what you want for player and then "lowering" the expectations down to like Pesce.


Is that how it works? I'll be following this system closely. Hey boss i want this much money....
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
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Hard to believe it was 1-for-1. TOR would have to add something. If that was it, Dubas is a clown tears of joy
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Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:50 p.m.
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Is that how it works? I'll be following this system closely. Hey boss i want this much money....


yes that's how negotiations work
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: OlegP
Is that how it works? I'll be following this system closely. Hey boss i want this much money....


Thats completely different situation tho. Dubas is equal to Waddell. Its more like asking 25k for your car but you realistically expect your car at 17.5k so anything above that is bonus.. the worst is that you would get said no and lower your offer. The best is that they would actually do it and then you laugh.. probably what happened with Kappy trade LOL
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Borocop
youd lose credibility doing this though, the value isint even close to being close imo


How do you know without the other pieces of the trade? Obviously we think if Anderson is the player named that a boat load of prospects/high picks go the other way too as the 'package' that was mentioned. Anderson for Hamilton as a stand alone was never even suggested by the rumor.
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
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Quoting: OlegP
Is that how it works? I'll be following this system closely. Hey boss i want this much money....


I mean, that really depends on what kind of job you have, but if you're in a position where you are a legitimate asset to a company and you are negotiating a pay raise, then yes, that's exactly what you should do.
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
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This is the guy that traded Kadri for Barrie and Kerfoot... let's take this with a grain of salt.
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Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
yes that's how negotiations work


Right you ask for Hamilton and settle for Pesce. Brilliant
Oct. 3, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
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Right you ask for Hamilton and settle for Pesce. Brilliant


Canes still say no so....
Oct. 3, 2020 at 5:03 p.m.
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Canes still say no so....


yeah how are people answering something facetious seriously lmao
Oct. 3, 2020 at 5:56 p.m.
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I'd be pumped if Dubas could pull this off. Dont think it would happen though
Oct. 3, 2020 at 6:03 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 3, 2020 at 6:13 p.m.
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
He did just get a major haul for Kapanen so


and other gms cried like little babies cause HE DIDNT CALL THEM LUL.

Would not be surprised if somehow he makes a deal that brings dougie or pesce over
 
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