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Brian Burke thinks Leafs should trade Nylander for another Defenseman Y or N

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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 14, 2020
Published: Dec. 14, 2020
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It was mentioned a while ago on Sportsnet from ex-leafs GM Brian Burke that the Leafs should look at moving Nylander's contract, to another team in exchange for a defenseman with a similar contract? Do you think he's right? or Wrong? What other trade would you like to see rather than Ellis? (if a trade were to happen, id pick Ellis so that's why he's here)
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:12 a.m.
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no
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:13 a.m.
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He’s right, but i don’t really see a good fit out there.
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
He’s right, but i don’t really see a good fit out there.


He is IMO as well, and I do agree that there's not a lot to pick from in terms of fit.
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:14 a.m.
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I think he's half right. The leafs should not go out of their way to trade Nylander, but if the right package comes along, they should do it for sure. Nylander is a non necessity.
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:15 a.m.
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basically it just depends on what you want. do you want depth on defense, or depth on offense. would you do a 4th dman and a middle 6 forward for nylander? probably not but im not sure of many teams that have a plethora of rd that need a rw.
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:16 a.m.
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No lol. Why do people listen to this guy? Hes been fired by like 3 teams because he wasnt good enough to be the GM...

His opinions are stuck in the past, and the game has moved on. Listening to him is as valuable as listening to a random boomer from facebook
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:18 a.m.
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No
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:18 a.m.
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brian burke was leafs gm for nearly 5 years and basically sunk the franchise. team didn't make the playoffs once. in fact, unless you count him walking onto an already complete anaheim roster, he hasn't built a playoff team since the canucks in the early 2000s, and even then they were only a second round team (3 first round exits in 4 appearances).

brian burke is 100% wrong about trading nylander - the leafs don't need a top defenceman, they've got 2 in the last 2 years in Muzzin and Brodie, and it cost them a combined price of trevor moore, a first round pick, and a B- tier prospect.

nylander broke out this year and was scoring at a 36 goal pace, he had 31 goals in a shortened season. After Keefe took over and gave him more ice time he was playing at a 42 goal pace. Why are we trading him?
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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Quoting: hanson493
basically it just depends on what you want. do you want depth on defense, or depth on offense. would you do a 4th dman and a middle 6 forward for nylander? probably not but im not sure of many teams that have a plethora of rd that need a rw.


NY Rangers and Nashville Predators come to my mind here when you speak of "Plethora of RD for a RW"
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.
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Jchafe77....maker of this post. Why do you even mention Brian Burke and his opinion? He certainly had no knowledge of talent or how to build a NHL when he was Leafs GM.
I value the opinions of many of CapFriendly pals more than media hog Burke.
Really, I don't see the Leafs getting better with this trade. Maybe not worse either, but as you show you are depending on Barbavov playing big minutes, and Mikheyvov scores goals.
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:23 a.m.
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This was discussed to death a while ago and the answer depends on who you ask.

People who align with Burke's thinking and preferred playstyle will say yes. These same people wanted Nylander traded a long time ago anyways, because his skillset involves being a good skater and possession player over being a heavy hitter. Sacrificing their offense power for a better blueline would give them the depth they need to get farther in the playoffs.

People who align with Dubas' thinking and preferred playstyle will say no. Nylander is an analytical darling and any defenseman that could be brought in wouldn't be worth the long term investment. Their right side already has 4 NHL guys on it: Brodie, Holl, Bogosian and Dermott. Just yesterday people will talking about Lijegren being a bust and another defenseman would further set him down the depth chart.

Personally I'm in the camp that thinks Toronto shouldn't trade Nylander. I feel the team is fine going into next season - and a lot of people would end up missing Nylander.
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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At this point, no. Keep developing guys like Sandin and Liljegren and hopefully you can work them into your top-4 some point soon. If they didn't get Brodie, I'd say maybe but he's a huge add. I think they're better off keeping Nylander now
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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this is the same guy that thinks the leafs should have drafted ritchie instead of nylander and traded seguin and hamilton for kessel
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
brian burke was leafs gm for nearly 5 years and basically sunk the franchise. team didn't make the playoffs once. in fact, unless you count him walking onto an already complete anaheim roster, he hasn't built a playoff team since the canucks in the early 2000s, and even then they were only a second round team (3 first round exits in 4 appearances).

brian burke is 100% wrong about trading nylander - the leafs don't need a top defenceman, they've got 2 in the last 2 years in Muzzin and Brodie, and it cost them a combined price of trevor moore, a first round pick, and a B- tier prospect.

nylander broke out this year and was scoring at a 36 goal pace, he had 31 goals in a shortened season. After Keefe took over and gave him more ice time he was playing at a 42 goal pace. Why are we trading him?


Stay the same and you’ll keep losing.
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.
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Stay the same and you’ll keep losing.


true
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:28 a.m.
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Stay the same and you’ll keep losing.


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true


"stay the same" when we've swapped out barrie/ceci for bogosian, lehtonen, and brodie, we're giving more prominent roles to our prospects, brought in wayne simmonds for 4th line duty and HoFer joe thornton to replace gauthier, added depth guys like vesey, anderson, and barabanov and added not 1 but 2 backup goalies - but yes, the leafs are the same
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:28 a.m.
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this is the same guy that thinks the leafs should have drafted ritchie instead of nylander and traded seguin and hamilton for kessel


Tyler Biggs. Nuff said.
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
"stay the same" when we've swapped out barrie/ceci for bogosian, lehtonen, and brodie, we're giving more prominent roles to our prospects, brought in wayne simmonds for 4th line duty and HoFer joe thornton to replace gauthier, and added not 1 but 2 backup goalies - but yes, the leafs are the same


not to be like that guy but Joe Thornton is a confusing sign. please tell me why Joe is still in the NHL and did not retire?
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
"stay the same" when we've swapped out barrie/ceci for bogosian, lehtonen, and brodie, we're giving more prominent roles to our prospects, brought in wayne simmonds for 4th line duty and HoFer joe thornton to replace gauthier, and added not 1 but 2 backup goalies - but yes, the leafs are the same


He's probably alluding to the fact that the leafs still have their core together. I'm not against trading Nylander by any means, but they shouldn't just dump him for cap space type of thing.
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:31 a.m.
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I think he's half right. The leafs should not go out of their way to trade Nylander, but if the right package comes along, they should do it for sure. Nylander is a non necessity.


This
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
He's probably alluding to the fact that the leafs still have their core together. I'm not against trading Nylander by any means, but they shouldn't just dump him for cap space type of thing.


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This


not to be like that guy but Joe Thornton is a confusing sign. please tell me why Joe is still in the NHL and did not retire?
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Stay the same and you’ll keep losing.


Young players tend to develop/improve.

Contenders are not solely built through trades and signings.
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:32 a.m.
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not to be like that guy but Joe Thornton is a confusing sign. please tell me why Joe is still in the NHL and did not retire?


because he can still play hockey lol. He's slow af but he's a leader, a wicked passer, and is more physical than who he's replacing.

he just spent a few months warming up in switzerland and had 10p in 11gp.

Quoting: Saskleaf
He's probably alluding to the fact that the leafs still have their core together. I'm not against trading Nylander by any means, but they shouldn't just dump him for cap space type of thing.


ik but by that logic tampa should've traded kuch or point because they weren't winning. It's such a silly philosophy, you lose in spite of your core, not because of them. You assembled them then tweak around the edges
Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
He's probably alluding to the fact that the leafs still have their core together. I'm not against trading Nylander by any means, but they shouldn't just dump him for cap space type of thing.


Double posting is a stupid idea.
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Dec. 14, 2020 at 10:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
He's probably alluding to the fact that the leafs still have their core together. I'm not against trading Nylander by any means, but they shouldn't just dump him for cap space type of thing.


Trading the core is a stupid idea.
 
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