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Chychrun and Turcotte

Created by: RobinBergdahl
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 14, 2021
Published: Oct. 14, 2021
Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
Would this trade make sence? Min bolster their Young center depth and LA gets a Young scoring winger. LA already have an aboundence of young C and Ive got the feeling that Turcotte aint untoucheble.

I would also look to move Zucc Just to create more space in terms of cap and the roster. I doubt he would waive for any team tho. That forwardcore is Young and filled with elite talent. I would not mind Bill to try and aquire a good LHD to pair with Addison, maybe Chyc?
Note* Decided to Pull of a trade for him!

Please give me your thoughts!
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Johansson, Filip3$925,000
Wallstedt, Jesper3$925,000
Firstov, Vladislav3$925,000
Khusnutdinov, Marat3$925,000
Peart, Jack3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kähkönen, Kaapo3$2,850,000
Pitlick, Rem2$950,000
Greenway, Jordan4$3,250,000
Bitten, Will2$925,000
Dewar, Connor2$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Goligoski, Alex1$2,000,000
Merrill, Jon1$950,000
Sturm, Nico3$1,333,333
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Turcotte, Alex
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
LAK
  1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
2.
MIN
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (SEA)
  2. 2022 4th round pick (CGY)
SEA
  1. Dumba, Matt
Additional Details:
2022 OFF SEASON TRADE
3.
MIN
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
ARI
  1. O'Rourke, Ryan
  2. Khusnutdinov, Marat
  3. 2022 1st round pick (MIN)
  4. 2023 1st round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
2022 pick is in the 20-range, 2023 first is top-8 protected.
Buyouts
  • Ryan Suter: $6,371,794
  • Zach Parise: $6,371,794
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
MIN
SEA
PIT
MIN
MIN
CGY
SJS
MIN
MIN
2023
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2024
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$82,500,000$80,276,922$0$3,082,500$2,223,078
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MIN
Kaprizov, Kirill
$9,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MIN
Rossi, Marco
$894,167
C
RFA - 2
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Greenway, Jordan
$3,250,000
LW, RW
RFA
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
$5,250,000
C
UFA - 7
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
$3,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MIN
Beckman, Adam
$894,167
LW
RFA - 2
LAK
Turcotte, Alex
$894,167
C
RFA - 2
MIN
Boldy, Matthew
$880,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MIN
Duhaime, Brandon
$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MIN
Sturm, Nico
$1,333,333
C
UFA
MIN
Hartman, Ryan
$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
MIN
Gaudreau, Frédérick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 1
MIN
Pitlick, Rem
$950,000
C, RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
MIN
Talbot, Cam
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 1
ARI
Chychrun, Jakob
$4,600,000
LD
UFA - 3
MIN
Addison, Calen
$795,000
RD
RFA - 1
MIN
Kähkönen, Kaapo
$2,850,000
G
RFA
MIN
Kulikov, Dmitry
$2,250,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
MIN
Goligoski, Alex
$2,000,000
LD/RD
UFA
MIN
Merrill, Jon
$950,000
LD
UFA
MIN
Mermis, Dakota
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 14 at 6:53 p.m.
#1
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Kings are going to see what they've got with Turcotte at the NHL level before any trade involving him. Current no from LA.
Oct. 14 at 7:01 p.m.
#2
Vegan Commie Hipster
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Yeah I think that's very reasonable for a year of Dumba given his low scoring numbers recently and he doesn't do anything else overly well either 😕
Oct. 14 at 7:07 p.m.
#3
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i think chychrun would require calen addison or boldy to acquire
Oct. 14 at 7:40 p.m.
#4
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Minnesota isn't trading dumba much less for that, so no. Young d much less of dumba's quality doesn't get traded for that much value. But bill Guerin naming dumba alternatives assured his going nowhere.

Arizona deal: no from Minnesota . No player,
even eichel was turned down
Quoting: bagelbob
i think chychrun would require calen addison or boldy to acquire


by Minnesota. Minnesota isn't going to trade a Top c prospect and a total of four 1st round pick for a d. No team will. No thanks

Los Angeles deal: Kevin fiala is worth more than a c prospect and 3rd round pick.
Oct. 14 at 7:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Radu47
Yeah I think that's very reasonable for a year of Dumba given his low scoring numbers recently and he doesn't do anything else overly well either 😕


Huh? You saw what Rasmus was traded for right? Also Minnesota just named dumba alternative captain as his beloved by the gm , and coaching staff. Along with his improving play from last year
Oct. 14 at 7:52 p.m.
#6
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It would take something absurd to get chychrun. I don’t think this is close to enough
Oct. 14 at 7:56 p.m.
#7
MTL AGM v5
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Quoting: CAPDumba
Minnesota isn't trading dumba much less for that, so no. Young d much less of dumba's quality doesn't get traded for that much value. But bill Guerin naming dumba alternatives assured his going nowhere.

Arizona deal: no from Minnesota . No player,
even eichel was turned down

by Minnesota. Minnesota isn't going to trade a Top c prospect and a total of four 1st round pick for a d. No team will. No thanks

Los Angeles deal: Kevin fiala is worth more than a c prospect and 3rd round pick.


Turcotte a C prospect lmao
Oct. 14 at 8:04 p.m.
#8
Dahlen Fan Club
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holy overpay for chychrun.
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Oct. 14 at 9:16 p.m.
#9
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Turcotte a C prospect lmao


I know that. I wrote what I wrote because fiala is worth more than a prospect.
Oct. 14 at 9:17 p.m.
#10
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
It would take something absurd to get chychrun. I don’t think this is close to enough


What are you serious right now? Haha no player is worth four 1st round pick or MORE. Not even eichel
Oct. 14 at 9:21 p.m.
#11
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I see LA keeping their stuff and just signing a UFA winger instead of making that trade.

Chychrun is a quality player, but he's not a guy you give up the farm to get. He's simply not a franchise altering player, or the missing piece to winning a Cup for MN. MN already has Brodin signed long-term to fill the top-pair LD spot on the roster too.

I don't see GMBG taking that for Dumba, even if he ends up tripping over his skates all season. I think he has a price set in his head for a Dumba return and won't adjust it or settle for less (similar to Zucker trade).
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Oct. 14 at 9:27 p.m.
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I'm not sure the Wild do any of these. They definitely don't do the Chychrun and Dumba deals.
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Oct. 14 at 9:54 p.m.
#13
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Quoting: CAPDumba
What are you serious right now? Haha no player is worth four 1st round pick or MORE. Not even eichel


That trade is two first rounders. There are players that are worth four firsts
Oct. 14 at 10:32 p.m.
#14
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
That trade is two first rounders. There are players that are worth four firsts


Like eichel who Minnesota said no to. Ryan o'Rourke, and Marat k would go in 1st round and would be worth 1st round picks so that is total of four 1st round pick
Oct. 14 at 10:49 p.m.
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Quoting: CAPDumba
Like eichel who Minnesota said no to. Ryan o'Rourke, and Marat k would go in 1st round and would be worth 1st round picks so that is total of four 1st round pick


That’s you’re opinion on their value, but they aren’t first round picks. They’re players. They’re players that Likely don’t have anywhere close to first round pick value, but that’s really beside the point. There are two first round picks in this trade.

There are a lot of players in the league worth a lot more than eichel.
Oct. 14 at 10:54 p.m.
#16
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
That’s you’re opinion on their value, but they aren’t first round picks. They’re players. They’re players that Likely don’t have anywhere close to first round pick value, but that’s really beside the point. There are two first round picks in this trade.

There are a lot of players in the league worth a lot more than eichel.


Marat k: was taken in early 2nd round
Ryan O: taken in early 2nd round

Both would easily be taken by teams in mid to late 1st round pick

And a dman isn't one of them no matter how good he's. Minnesota also doesn't need d at c all not with the money committed to spurgeon, brodin and dumba along with Dmitry k, then wild also has Alex g , and Calen d. The thing about others not knowing much about Minnesota is, Minnesota doesn't need to trade for a d to play with Calen addison
Oct. 14 at 10:55 p.m.
#17
theleano1
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The wild really should take all of these and run Turrcotte would easily be their number one C and is still one of the best C prospects in the game, Chychrun is one of the best young Dman in the game it wouldn't surprise me if it took a top 5 pick to acquire him, Dumba is nothing but a cap dump right now Honestly the wild should be giving up the 2nd to dump him i would try to flip Turcotte along with Rossi + for Eichel is well and if you did that i think you have one the most dangerous teams in the NHL
Oct. 14 at 11:01 p.m.
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Quoting: CAPDumba
Marat k: was taken in early 2nd round
Ryan O: taken in early 2nd round

Both would easily be taken by teams in mid to late 1st round pick

And a dman isn't one of them no matter how good he's. Minnesota also doesn't need d at c all not with the money committed to spurgeon, brodin and dumba along with Dmitry k, then wild also has Alex g , and Calen d. The thing about others not knowing much about Minnesota is, Minnesota doesn't need to trade for a d to play with Calen addison


Why? They haven’t done much since being drafted. Prospects inherently lose value between when it’s a pick up until they make it to the nhl unless they do something special. Neither of these guys have come close. Their value has gone down since being drafted.

Number one d men are the most valuable asset in the nhl. Don’t know what league you’re watching
Oct. 14 at 11:18 p.m.
#19
Patient gm
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Turcotte a C prospect lmao


Ignore him, every other wild fan does. Nevertheless he’ll have a new acct in 2 weeks
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Oct. 14 at 11:55 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Why? They haven’t done much since being drafted. Prospects inherently lose value between when it’s a pick up until they make it to the nhl unless they do something special. Neither of these guys have come close. Their value has gone down since being drafted.

Number one d men are the most valuable asset in the nhl. Don’t know what league you’re watching


Thir value has gone down? Clearly you haven't been paying attention to wild, or their prospects or you won't be making that statement.

Look how much Minnesota has committed to dman before trying to act like Minnesota needs another d they have zero money for. Like o said he's amazing, but Minnesota isn't the team needing d, and you are wrong on that account
Oct. 14 at 11:56 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Why? They haven’t done much since being drafted. Prospects inherently lose value between when it’s a pick up until they make it to the nhl unless they do something special. Neither of these guys have come close. Their value has gone down since being drafted.

Number one d men are the most valuable asset in the nhl. Don’t know what league you’re watching



Dumba is a cap dump? Minnesota needs to pay to rid of him? What an absolute ignorance comment, or you are trolling. Like nothing you have said make any sense
Oct. 14 at 11:59 p.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
The wild really should take all of these and run Turrcotte would easily be their number one C and is still one of the best C prospects in the game, Chychrun is one of the best young Dman in the game it wouldn't surprise me if it took a top 5 pick to acquire him, Dumba is nothing but a cap dump right now Honestly the wild should be giving up the 2nd to dump him i would try to flip Turcotte along with Rossi + for Eichel is well and if you did that i think you have one the most dangerous teams in the NHL


My gosh stop while you are ahead. No Turcotte would not. He's not even accomplished more than Rossi. You are absolutely either clueless, or you wouldn't be saying Turcotte who took a step back is better than ek, or Rossi, ek.

Much like the comment that Minnesota should take all of it. No, Minnesota shouldn't abd won't because it's horrible sided in not Minnesota's favor. Just tell me you have no idea what you are talking about, or not trying to be mean but trolling
Oct. 15 at 12:04 a.m.
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Quoting: CAPDumba
Dumba is a cap dump? Minnesota needs to pay to rid of him? What an absolute ignorance comment, or you are trolling. Like nothing you have said make any sense


What? When did I mention dumba?
Oct. 15 at 12:05 a.m.
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Quoting: CAPDumba
Thir value has gone down? Clearly you haven't been paying attention to wild, or their prospects or you won't be making that statement.

Look how much Minnesota has committed to dman before trying to act like Minnesota needs another d they have zero money for. Like o said he's amazing, but Minnesota isn't the team needing d, and you are wrong on that account

Who said they need d? I didn’t
Oct. 15 at 12:12 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
What? When did I mention dumba?


Wasn't talking about you. Someone else
 
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