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2021-22 NHL Season Discussion Thread #15

Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
I don’t even think Subban has a good reputation at this point in his career and even at 50% retained he’s still overpaid.


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i wanna see where this is


https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/557652?post_id=3009130

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:09 p.m.
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So that’s why @andrewladd is commenting a lot today


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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:10 p.m.
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So that’s why andrewladd is commenting a lot today




@AndrewLadd are you okay speak to us
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:12 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/557652?post_id=3009130

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He's using +/- as a justification lmao
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
He's using +/- as a justification lmao


If that was the Case Seth Jones would have been... Oh wait tears of joy

Anyways yeah Subban is worth a 5th at most rn but even thats to much...
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:14 p.m.
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be safe everyone in that area
Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:31 p.m.
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I found out why Devils fans think Subban is worth a 1st and its disturbing

NHL Network guy put the little thought bubble in their heads...

Oh boy

I get it Savard got a 1st but Subban at this point maybe and I mean maybe gets you a 3rd.

Like lets be honest if I have to pay a 1st and the only 2 options were Chiarot and Subban, I would take Chiarot and thats saying something...

Man though if teams are really asking for 1sts for rental Dman (besides Gio and Chiarot) this deadline really gonna be quiet for defenseman getting moved lul
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Honestly Keefe should split them up. Kase looks hungry and Kerfoot and Nylander (besides the Blues game really have been meh). Making JT do the work getting the puck (Basically what Marner and Bunting do for Matthews).

Maybe honestly have Marner or Bunting with Tavares for a while to allow him to have less work to do with puck retrievals. As if you watch him he barely can shoot as hes to bush getting the puck. And when he does shoot its mainly on the PP

Would not mind seeing Bunting-Tavares-Kase for a bit or Bunting-Tavares-Marner


Sure, it’s just concerning that Tavares needs specific players to get him going. Dude should be driving his line with whoever he is with.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:55 p.m.
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Do people here really think PK Subban is worth a 1st round pick?


Lol no, Subban at 75% is worth a 4th
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:55 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Sure, it’s just concerning that Tavares needs specific players to get him going. Dude should be driving his line with whoever he is with.


I mean if you look at Nylander hes the kind of guy thats 50/50 suited with JT

When that line was clicking nothing could stop them, now with all 3 struggling nothing goes their way.

Like if that line bounces back the league is in trouble again. Just need to find that spark. Which is why I think Kase might be the guy to try rn as he looks hungry for more action. Nylander just looks to relaxed sometimes
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:56 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:06 p.m.
Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Lol no, Subban at 75% is worth a 4th


Above is a trade post where Devils fans actually think he can get one...

Not saying anything bad but what is going on

All these rental Dman all of a sudden being worth a 1st. Are we in Bizarro world...

Gonna be a quiet deadline for rental d-man if this is the case lul.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:07 p.m.
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I found out why Devils fans think Subban is worth a 1st and its disturbing

NHL Network guy put the little thought bubble in their heads...

Oh boy

I get it Savard got a 1st but Subban at this point maybe and I mean maybe gets you a 3rd.

Like lets be honest if I have to pay a 1st and the only 2 options were Chiarot and Subban, I would take Chiarot and thats saying something...

Man though if teams are really asking for 1sts for rental Dman (besides Gio and Chiarot) this deadline really gonna be quiet for defenseman getting moved lul

How dare you lump Gio in with that bunch smh. Gio’s worth a 1st because he’s still actually decent at hockey. Chiarot’s maybe worth a 2nd half-retained because he’s big, but will likey bring in a 1st because hockey people are stupid. Subban’s probably got the most playoff experience plus charisma, leadership, etc., but even 75% retained costs too much because he’s no longer good, so he’ll maybe get a 3rd or 4th. Whichever team gets Gio will be happy with their purchase even if they don’t win the cup. Whichever team gets Chiarot will regret it unless they win the cup.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
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How dare you lump Gio in with that bunch smh. Gio’s worth a 1st because he’s still actually decent at hockey. Chiarot’s maybe worth a 2nd half-retained because he’s big, but will likey bring in a 1st because hockey people are stupid. Subban’s probably got the most playoff experience plus charisma, leadership, etc., but even 75% retained costs too much because he’s no longer good, so he’ll maybe get a 3rd or 4th. Whichever team gets Gio will be happy with their purchase even if they don’t win the cup. Whichever team gets Chiarot will regret it unless they win the cup.


I had to put him with the rentals as technically he is a rental, but of all of them hes the best guy rn. Hes realistically the one I would give a 1st for.

But its funny how the NHL network takes a guy people were dumping on other teams for nothing and goes....HE CAN MAYBE GET THEM A 1ST (facepalm)
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:38 p.m.
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I found out why Devils fans think Subban is worth a 1st and its disturbing

NHL Network guy put the little thought bubble in their heads...

Oh boy

I get it Savard got a 1st but Subban at this point maybe and I mean maybe gets you a 3rd.

Like lets be honest if I have to pay a 1st and the only 2 options were Chiarot and Subban, I would take Chiarot and thats saying something...

Man though if teams are really asking for 1sts for rental Dman (besides Gio and Chiarot) this deadline really gonna be quiet for defenseman getting moved lul


What people fail to realize, is that even tho a player may have been top of the league and worth plenty at one point in their career, they may not still be at that caliber. Subban’s name and memories of his career in MTL are what is giving people false value, he may have been worth a lot back then, and theyre constantly misjudging how much former play and potential factors into trade value
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:47 p.m.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121


future selke winner


When hes on his game hes fire at both ends, tonight he seemed more interested in having a Family Day party.

Cause I have seen him steal pucks break up 3 on 1s and try to make keefe see what he could do on the PK. But tonight none of that was visable. Think he got 4 shots on goal and they werent his best
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:51 p.m.
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Just keep him out till hes 100% better not 50% not 75% when hes fully better bring him back.

But people gonna go oh leafs pulling a Tampa. The guy literally suffered 2 concussions in a month along with a leg injury. I think if they put him out till Game 1 its justified rn lul
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:57 p.m.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:00 p.m.
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Idea now that Muzzin is on LTIR

Gio + Jarnkrok or something to Toronto makes sense. As why make a deal with 2 teams when you can just shop at the same store. No need for retention either as both guys by the TDL cost under 3mill against the cap combined.


Unless they can make a deal for Stasney and Demelo in Wpg. But Demelo is a RD, k maybe if he plays with Sandin who cares? This deal also works as you get a RD to throw Holl out (what most fans want shrug) and a guy who can play LW/C better than Kerfoot...
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:05 p.m.
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I'd rather watch paint dry than tune in to Leah Hextall calling an isles game

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
I found out why Devils fans think Subban is worth a 1st and its disturbing

NHL Network guy put the little thought bubble in their heads...

Oh boy

I get it Savard got a 1st but Subban at this point maybe and I mean maybe gets you a 3rd.

Like lets be honest if I have to pay a 1st and the only 2 options were Chiarot and Subban, I would take Chiarot and thats saying something...

Man though if teams are really asking for 1sts for rental Dman (besides Gio and Chiarot) this deadline really gonna be quiet for defenseman getting moved lul


Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Lol no, Subban at 75% is worth a 4th


I don’t think he’s worth a first but he’s definitely getting underappricated by people
Subban would be a good bottom 4 offensive dman at 75% retained
And there’s a good chance Subban gets more in return than a late pick because
1) Big name
2) Barely any RD on the market
Defensemen like Ristolainen and soon Chiarot got big returns despite having poor on ice play
The only RD on the market that I can think of are Klingberg (who might not even get traded), Petry (huge contract), Miller, Ristolainen, and Subban
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil
I don’t think he’s worth a first but he’s definitely getting underappricated by people
Subban would be a good bottom 4 offensive dman at 75% retained
And there’s a good chance Subban gets more in return than a late pick because
1) Big name
2) Barely any RD on the market
Defensemen like Ristolainen and soon Chiarot got big returns despite having poor on ice play
The only RD on the market that I can think of are Klingberg (who might not even get traded), Petry (huge contract), Miller, Ristolainen, and Subban


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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:12 p.m.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.
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ovi held up the line. HIs legs are starting to fall off
Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:33 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
I found out why Devils fans think Subban is worth a 1st and its disturbing

NHL Network guy put the little thought bubble in their heads...

Oh boy

I get it Savard got a 1st but Subban at this point maybe and I mean maybe gets you a 3rd.

Like lets be honest if I have to pay a 1st and the only 2 options were Chiarot and Subban, I would take Chiarot and thats saying something...

Man though if teams are really asking for 1sts for rental Dman (besides Gio and Chiarot) this deadline really gonna be quiet for defenseman getting moved lul


If every dman on the market is apparently worth a 1st than I want Clarke and a 1st for Klinger.
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