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Feb. 23, 2022 at 12:37 a.m.
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#22 Kevin Fiala scored his 2nd point on the 22nd shot of the game to tie the game 2-2 in the 2nd period. Fiala finished the period as a +2 and registered 22 minutes of ice time in 22 shifts on 2/22/22
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 12:38 a.m.
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Edited Feb. 23, 2022 at 12:44 a.m.
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I wish nbc was still around.


Honestly let the Hockey Night in Canada panel do all the Commentary for everything
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 12:52 a.m.
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ANA Stolarz has been stellar against SJ.
Pure, TML Trade Bait in Disney Town!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, or
Reimer!!
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 12:56 a.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
ANA Stolarz has been stellar against SJ.
Pure, TML Trade Bait in Disney Town!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, or
Reimer!!


Dont need just wait till Woll gets healthy if we need someone new

After all he loved playing against SJS

But in general all goalies go through slumps Campbell and Mrazek will rebound
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 12:58 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Dont need just wait till Woll gets healthy if we need someone new

After all he loved playing against SJS

But in general all goalies go through slumps Campbell and Mrazek will rebound


Don't wait too long cause next stop is 8th place in the East....
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 12:59 a.m.
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Forsberg and Stolarz were magnifique tonight.👌
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 1:04 a.m.
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Its funny though as Barkov when he won it had 39 takeaways and 23 giveaways

Matthews rn has 53 takeaways 33 giveaways...

And if you need it takeaway leaders

Forwards

Matthews 53
Keller 49
Lundell 48

Dman

Pitrangelo 66
Weegar 60
Slavin 48

Barkov’s Selke year is a bad comparison, he didn’t deserve it when he won it. Same with Couturier honestly. Iirc those were the two years I was banging the Stone drum (at least one), but yeah, they weren’t actually elite defensively the years they won it, it was a carry over from being elite defensively for several of the previous years.

Also, on Campbell, he’s been a career (good) backup/1B who has ALREADY started 9 more games this season than his previous career high. Could be he’s just not a starter, just a high end tandem guy. Or he’s hurt.
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 1:04 a.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
Don't wait too long cause next stop is 8th place in the East....


0% chance that happens lul. Like they would have to lose every game from now till May 2 for that to occur
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 1:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
Barkov’s Selke year is a bad comparison, he didn’t deserve it when he won it. Same with Couturier honestly. Iirc those were the two years I was banging the Stone drum (at least one), but yeah, they weren’t actually elite defensively the years they won it, it was a carry over from being elite defensively for several of the previous years.

Also, on Campbell, he’s been a career (good) backup/1B who has ALREADY started 9 more games this season than his previous career high. Could be he’s just not a starter, just a high end tandem guy. Or he’s hurt.


No im saying in general Barkov's numbers werent great but he won the Selke. Not saying Matthews will but 2 bad games does not mean hes bad at defense. It happens to them all. Like analysts thought Bergeron was gonna win the Selke but Barkov stole it lul.

As for Campbell hes hit a rock and I have seen it before. Mostly has to do with the coach now. So Briere got some work to do. As those are routine saves and yet always in February whether its Reimer, Bernier, Freddie, and now Campbell/Mrazek February is always a struggle period. Also we changed our other assistant coaches and so far good results with our PP and PK being excellent. Briere has in my opinion been around long enough. Need a more experienced proper guy.
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 1:08 a.m.
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No im saying in general Barkov's numbers werent great but he won the Selke. Not saying Matthews will but 2 bad games does not mean hes bad at defense. It happens to them all

As for Campbell hes hit a rock and I have seen it before. Mostly has to do with the coach now. So Briere got some work to do. As those are routine saves and yet always in February whether its Reimer, Bernier, Freddie, whoever February is always a struggle period.

If Matthews is comparable to the year Barkov won the Selke, then he’s not going to win it. He needs like 3-5 years of being actually high end defensively (which he’s mostly been so far this year so this might be year 1) before getting considered for it, and he’ll likely end up winning it in a down year because the Selke voters are stupid.
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 1:18 a.m.
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0% chance that happens lul. Like they would have to lose every game from now till May 2 for that to occur


So your saying there's a chance LOL!?
jk - having a laff cheers
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 1:18 a.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
If Matthews is comparable to the year Barkov won the Selke, then he’s not going to win it. He needs like 3-5 years of being actually high end defensively (which he’s mostly been so far this year so this might be year 1) before getting considered for it, and he’ll likely end up winning it in a down year because the Selke voters are stupid.


He needs to be on the PK for me to be a true Selke candidate. And honestly if he PK/D while putting up those numbers there would be a good chance of being a strong nominee. Now would he get it no as Bergeron is on a revenge quest. Barkov technically should not have over Bergeron last season according to some but it happens sometimes

Would like to see him and Marner PK though that could be fun
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 6:20 a.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
Don't wait too long cause next stop is 8th place in the East....


Wouldn't that be a blessing in a disguise in a sense?

Wouldn't have to face TB in the first round if that happens.
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 7:41 a.m.
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Quoting: mondo
goaltenders are forbidden to have slumps


it's unusual to have a slump of this degree.
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 7:43 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Carey Price trade.


i wonder what that would look like
Feb. 23, 2022 at 8:13 a.m.
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i wonder what that would look like


Bad, most likely.
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 8:19 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
it's unusual to have a slump of this degree.


We also need to look at the fact that our most defensive defenceman is injured is combined with a personal slump
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 8:33 a.m.
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We also need to look at the fact that our most defensive defenceman is injured is combined with a personal slump


That's probably something the Leafs should tackle near the deadline. They need another top-4 defensive D-man, because Muzzin tends to be injured every time there's a need for one.
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 8:35 a.m.
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i wonder what that would look like


Not happening since Price still isn't healthy. Long-term retention (for more than like 1mil) is also never a good idea as that's a retention spot you lose for a long time and can hurt your cap space later ( Kessel and the Leafs retaining 1.2 for 7 years didn't work out great for them when they needed all the cap they could get ) and no one should want Price unless we retain a decent amount, he also has a NMC so he's stuck here imo
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 8:44 a.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Not happening since Price still isn't healthy. Long-term retention (for more than like 1mil) is also never a good idea as that's a retention spot you lose for a long time and can hurt your cap space later ( Kessel and the Leafs retaining 1.2 for 7 years didn't work out great for them when they needed all the cap they could get ) and no one should want Price unless we retain a decent amount, he also has a NMC so he's stuck here imo


i assume any price trade would have to be with full retention because he's not worth more than $5.5m on a long term contract these days. good point about the retention slot habs might need those. i can see chiarot and lehky using one each and then there is the possibility the habs finally move on from petry, droiun, gallaher or hoffman.
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 8:48 a.m.
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i assume any price trade would have to be with full retention because he's not worth more than $5.5m on a long term contract these days. good point about the retention slot habs might need those. i can see chiarot and lehky using one each and then there is the possibility the habs finally move on from petry, droiun, gallaher or hoffman.


Yeah, no team takes Price at 10.5 but Montreal also will not retain much on Price until he's maybe at like 2 years on his deal
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 9:02 a.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Not happening since Price still isn't healthy. Long-term retention (for more than like 1mil) is also never a good idea as that's a retention spot you lose for a long time and can hurt your cap space later ( Kessel and the Leafs retaining 1.2 for 7 years didn't work out great for them when they needed all the cap they could get ) and no one should want Price unless we retain a decent amount, he also has a NMC so he's stuck here imo


Technically it could work if MTL takes in a bloated contract in return as well. Might not be need for a retention if they take in a huge contract of their own.
Feb. 23, 2022 at 9:02 a.m.
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Oh no that's so so so sad. Leafs prospect Rodion Amirov diagnosed with a brain tumor.
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 9:03 a.m.
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HOLY **** that's terrible
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 9:04 a.m.
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HOLY **** that's terrible


Wish Amirov the best of luck, sucks this might kill his career
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