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Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:44 p.m.
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The most “digestible” answer for Middleton is - he is prime Marc Methot.

Middleton:

- RFA TEAM CONTROLLED
- big heavy defensive minded guy who can chip in offensively a few time a year
- moustache
- if the Sharks extend him on a 2m x 3y I’m super happy
- I want an overpay for him if I’m SJ but he is expendable if you’re assuming Hatakka keep trending upwards and we have Knyzhov who you have to pray can return to form

He’s big, heavy, and very safe. Don’t often find myself cursing or questioning Middleton and he just plays a well rounded game which then is amplified and shows how truly good he is as a complimentary piece when he’s paired with an OFD. Karlsson looks like a near PPG Karlsson strong everywhere this year - and that’s hugely due to Middleton giving his partner; everything he needs.

Middleton LD, I would happily take a 2nd but I’d want more to make it willing to move as I assume Middleton would like to stay in SJ beside Karlsson. But; at the same time…

Ferraro - Burns (about locked Ferraro is the future)
? - Karlsson (locked)
? - Merkley (Merkley is taking this spot next year)

Followed on that left we have (in order);

Knyzhov (22 I think)
Middleton
Hatakka (who’s only 21 or 22 I think also without googling)
Kniazev (again also probably 20 or 21)
Simek
Our 2020-21 draft picks
Our future draft picks
Burns’ son
A pylon
Vlasic

So overall; Middleton could lose his job to Knyzhov if he returns in good health from multiple health problems/ a hernia I think (again not googling). Then Hatakka + Kniazev are nipping at the heels of Middleton, Simek, Vlasic already. And Merkley has already shown he deserves an NHL job soon. Which makes Middletons case so curious. He’s a guy a cup winning team needs… but he’s also a premium asset that SJ shouldn’t see as expendable (yet he is).


Seems exactly like schueneman
Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:44 p.m.
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Lindholm = 1st + Loheri
Chychrun = 1st + Lysell + Loheri


no, Lysell or Lohrei but not both and I would not give Lysell if I were Sweeny.
Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:44 p.m.
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😀
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:44 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
My guess is :
Verhaeghe-Barkov-Duclair
Huberdeau-Bennett-Giroux
Marchment-Lundell-Reinhart


everyone in. the top 9 is having a star caliber season.
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:45 p.m.
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😀


really need lehkonen to go for a 1st or a few 2nds to make it a sellers market lol
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:45 p.m.
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Quoting: BruinsTalk
no, Lysell or Lohrei but not both and I would not give Lysell if I were Sweeny.


So debrusk instead?
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:51 p.m.
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Asset management matters a lot more than sentiment.

They already flubbed the expansion draft. If they flub the deadline too it'll be a long, long time until they're relevant. The league needs to avoid a Columbus-West in Seattle.


Yeah, no reason for Seattle not to trade Gio
Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:51 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Seems exactly like schueneman


Not really, Middleton has prior experience, Schueneman doesn’t, I’d also argue Middleton’s ceiling if higher
Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:53 p.m.
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everyone in. the top 9 is having a star caliber season.


Yes, but I'm still cautious about most of these players. Marchment as an example; I'd want my team to stay away in FA. Florida can make everyone look better than they are in reality, isolated from this system. Driedger & Wennberg are proving it this year.
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:53 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
So debrusk instead?


*Sweeney

I would give DeBrusk if they take him. Bruins would need to get another forward. Rackell? If Chychrun gets traded it will be interesting to see the return from any team. If the Bruins get Chychrun then Lohrei is expendable for now. Chychrun can obviously play now where Lohrei is a couple of years way and will be ready for the new building.
Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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Quoting: HelmutCool
Any guesses who are Florida clearing cap space for?

(Hoping for some toughness, Tampa will otherwise overpower them again)


Chychrun. Or lindholm. Or Chiarot. Or Giordano. Or Fleury.
Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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Yes, but I'm still cautious about most of these players. Marchment as an example; I'd want my team to stay away in FA. Florida can make everyone look better than they are in reality, isolated from this system. Driedger & Wennberg are proving it this year.


I agree - some of them are a product of the system/ quality of teammates. It's still impressive that everyone in the top 9 is producing at an elite rate.
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 3:59 p.m.
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Mathieu Perreault is on waivers, which claims him?
Weird that the habs didn't trade him for a late round pick before putting him on waivers
Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:00 p.m.
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😀


MTL fans hopes crushed lol
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:01 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Giroux


My thoughts exactly. I think Zito wants to bring Claude in.
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:02 p.m.
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Mathieu Perreault is on waivers, which claims him?
Weird that the habs didn't trade him for a late round pick before putting him on waivers


Don't think anyone claims him. No contender is adding cap for now, and sellers don't really have use for him.
Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:06 p.m.
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Mathieu Perreault is on waivers, which claims him?
Weird that the habs didn't trade him for a late round pick before putting him on waivers


Wasn’t he injured for most of the season, he hasn’t been able to showcase much, there’s also the possibility after he clears we trade him so that the other team doesn’t have to waive him
Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.
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My thoughts exactly. I think Zito wants to bring Claude in.


Noel + Gildon and a 2023 1st. I feel like Denisenko or Tippett is too much for a rental
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:13 p.m.
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Noel + Gildon and a 2023 1st. I feel like Denisenko or Tippett is too much for a rental


I think they need to include Tippett to win that bidding war. We know Avs will also make an offer and probably others too.
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.
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So I'm off CF for 72 hours. I come back having missed Vatrano to the Rangers, Sturm for Jost, Khudobin out for the year, Manson to the Avs for Helleson+2nd, Matthews suspended for a pair of games, Kallgren sending Leafs fans into (temporary) delirium, back-to-back shutouts for Kuemper, Landeskog likely out until the playoffs (which leaves the door for Giroux WIDE open), and 16 notifications...
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:21 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Mathieu Perreault is on waivers, which claims him?
Weird that the habs didn't trade him for a late round pick before putting him on waivers


I forgot he was on the team lmao. So many in-and-outs on this roster that he was kinda lost in the shuffle.
Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.
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Was hoping the Leafs would have been in on him. Curious to see what he goes for
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.
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I think they need to include Tippett to win that bidding war. We know Avs will also make an offer and probably others too.


Avs don’t have Helleson anymore. Who are they offering ? 2 of Behrens, Foudy , Ranta , Kaut?
Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:29 p.m.
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Was hoping the Leafs would have been in on him. Curious to see what he goes for


Am I crazy to think Kubalik fetches a 1st? Dvorak did, and I'd take Kubalik over Dvorak in a heartbeat...
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Mar. 16, 2022 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
Am I crazy to think Kubalik fetches a 1st? Dvorak did, and I'd take Kubalik over Dvorak in a heartbeat...


It’s been a down year, I’m guessing a 3rd + prospect
 
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