2021-22 NHL Season Discussion Thread #21-TDL Edition

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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188

Well, that was a swap of 1sts, not an actual loss of 2 1sts, meaning that the Jackets only actually gained one 1st when it was all said and done.

fine, than duchene

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:24 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Paul rejected the Sens offer of 2.5 per for 4 years.

https://twitter.com/everydaysens/status/1504907367707721737?s=21

How much does he think hes worth jesus.

Like 2.5mill x 4 years should be fine for him

At most 2.75mill x 4 years is what I would give

Any more is an overpay

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:25 p.m.

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Quoting: DirtyDangle

fine, than duchene

Didnt the other 1st not transfer because Duchene didnt extend in Columbus

So does it really count

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:26 p.m.

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Quoting: aadoyle

How much does he think hes worth jesus.

Like 2.5mill x 4 years should be fine for him

At most 2.75mill x 4 years is what I would give

Any more is an overpay

He’s the kind of guy you put him on McDavid man to man in OT but his offensive production doesn’t indicate he’s worth more than a Foegele

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.

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Quoting: aadoyle

Didnt the other 1st not transfer because Duchene didnt extend in Columbus

fine, than schenn

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.

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Quoting: ricochetii

Hagel got two firsts(+). We're talking about half of that for Lehkonen. It's not that much of an overpay.

I have doubts about any more 1sts being available. There would be players above Lehkonen to get them. Which is fine, because Montreal would prefer a prospect (RHD especially). You might see a 1st for Giroux or Lindholm.

Tampa and Florida are cleaned out and they were in the biggest arms race. Colorado should be making a move to pace Calgary given their injuries.

Only Edmonton or Toronto in addition, could realistically justify moving a 1st at this point, because they are desperate for any kind of playoff success.

Vegas and Carolina might see minor tweaks, other teams may make minor adds or players with term, or look to address weaknesses at cheap prices. Hard to justify going all in on a rental when you've already lost the arms race.

yknow dont get me wrong lehky is a nice depth piece. but hes depth. the teams that are getting this guy are looking for 3rd liners. they arent gunna pay him a 1st to hope hes a top 6 forward. teams with firsts left like you said are getting G or Lindholm or guys with term. even andrew copp, i think in a down market year for forwards i could see him getting a first but hes not getting one this year.

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:33 p.m.

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Quoting: aadoyle

Didnt the other 1st not transfer because Duchene didnt extend in Columbus

This is correct.

Quoting: aadoyle

How much does he think hes worth jesus.

Like 2.5mill x 4 years should be fine for him

At most 2.75mill x 4 years is what I would give

Any more is an overpay

2.5mil is already an overpay lol. NHL GMs are really losing their minds and treating 3rd line defensive specialists like gods when in reality they're everywhere. Goodrow-esque players are not uncommon lol (Jarnkrok already moved, Paul and Lehkonen in rumours, most teams have good defensive bottom six players already, e.g. Kampf, ZAR, Nichuskin, Fast, Bellemare, GREEF line, etc.).

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:37 p.m.

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Quoting: DirtyDangle

fine, than schenn

Colorado in on Paul.

Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:38 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Colorado in on Paul.

i hope you're not suggesting for 2 x 1sts

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:38 p.m.

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Quoting: DirtyDangle

i hope you're not suggesting for 2 x 1sts

I’ll take Compher back for him or maybe Kaut

Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:39 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

I’ll take Compher back for him or maybe Kaut

i think the avs are stuck with compher unless the yotes need some contracts for next season.

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:41 p.m.

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Quoting: DirtyDangle

i think the avs are stuck with compher unless the yotes need some contracts for next season.

I’ll take him. Could be a good Paul replacement for 1 year.

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:42 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

I’ll take him. Could be a good Paul replacement for 1 year.

yea i think the avs would do that.

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.

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EF on 32TP says that TOR was in the Hagel sweepstakes but says that CHI likely asked for Matthew Knies. #LeafsForever #Blackhawks
— Leafs Updates (39-17-5) (@Ieafsupdates) March 18, 2022

knies off limits 5 ever

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

1 of the best all around defenseman in the league imo

I’m sorry but that’s a lot for someone like Schueneman who has limited NHL experience and has 3rd pair at best upside

Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Lmao, you paid 2 FIRSTS for HAGEL? Holy cow, Tampa’s doing it again, let’s hope this overpay pays off like Goodrow, Savard and Coleman

^My thoughts on the Hagel trade

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.

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Quoting: mondo

EF on 32TP says that TOR was in the Hagel sweepstakes but says that CHI likely asked for Matthew Knies. #LeafsForever #Blackhawks
— Leafs Updates (39-17-5) (@Ieafsupdates) March 18, 2022

knies off limits 5 ever

i dont blame them but leafs are going to have a hard time making moves if their 1sts are off limits along with knies and for obvious reasons amirov

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:48 p.m.

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Quoting: DirtyDangle

i dont blame them but leafs are going to have a hard time making moves if their 1sts are off limits along with knies and for obvious reasons amirov

knies might be on the roster this season and is very good. i'd rather the team keep him over trading him

Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:50 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

I’ll take Compher back for him or maybe Kaut

I feel like we shouldn't be helping them clear cap room though. If we get one of Justin Barron, Martin Kaut, or the 2023 1st in the deal for Paul I would be ecstatic. The 2024 2nd would be okay too, but at that point it's more of a trade chip for the future Sens that are good, rather than an asset we're likely to use to draft a prospect. Getting just a 3rd, or a 3rd + worse prospect than Kaut would be disappointing (which basically means I'd be hoping for Olausson or Kaut + a mid-round pick lol). If we do get Barron, I'd hope we immediately turn around and make a run at Boeser with Jarventie + one of our RD prospects (Thomson/JBD/Barron) as the base of the package.

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:53 p.m.

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Quoting: mondo

knies might be on the roster this season and is very good. i'd rather the team keep him over trading him

Burning a year off Knies ELC would be a mistake. Abruzzese sure.

I’d rather call up Steeves, Seney, Suomela

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 4:53 p.m.

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Paul also plays centre. Suddenly 3 mill doesn’t look bad when you have a big power forward who can defend as your 3C. Not sure of his faceoffs % but he’s been pretty good at centre on a checking line

Mar. 18, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

I still think Stephenson's deal is the best if the team puts Paul at center.

So 2.75m x 4 or 5 years whatever it was

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.

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Quoting: aadoyle

I still think Stephenson's deal is the best if the team puts Paul at center.

So 2.75m x 4 or 5 years whatever it was

Stephenson is a good middle 6C where as Paul can’t play top 6

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 5:06 p.m.

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