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infinite first round pick glitch

Created by: Joey_mar_cur
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 26, 2022
Published: Jun. 26, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
tanking is the best thing ever lol i would be so excited if we tanked like this. i know these trades look wanky as all get out but hear me out guys we know these guys all have much higher value than they actually should if you were to use any common sense (with the exception of dvo and allen i suppose theyre pretty fair i think). habs pick shane first, then lambert at 13 (NYI) , miro at 18 (DAL), and odelius at 26 (CAL). this team is really brought together around the concept of focusing on the youth and letting everyone figure it out together, the defence and second pk are the real examples of this, filled with youth at the expense of experience, remember we are still trying to lose here after all. i would usually be very adamand on keeping pitlick on line 1 but having drou up there might kickstart his game again and if he can produce he would be a very exciting piece come the deadline, same with dadonov to a lesser extent.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Farrell, Sean3$925,000
Mailloux, Logan3$925,000
Nissen Dichow, Frederik3$925,000
Pitlick, Rhett3$925,000
Smilanic, Ty3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Brook, Josh1$850,000
Montembeault, Samuel2$850,000
Pezzetta, Michael2$1,000,000
Pitlick, Rem4$3,850,000
Primeau, Cayden2$1,000,000
Romanov, Alexander8$5,750,000
Schueneman, Corey2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fleury, Marc-André1$3,750,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane3$925,000
Lambert, Brad3$925,000
Miroshinchenko, Ivan3$925,000
Odelius, Calle3$925,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (DAL)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (DAL)
klingberg leaves in FA petry is a stopgap of sorts
DAL
  1. Petry, Jeff ($1,250,000 retained)
2.
MTL
  1. Dufour, William
  2. 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
do i think that josh anderson is worth a haul like this? no. do i think that this is the kind of return he will command regardless? yes. NHL gms do really silly things on the occasion
NYI
  1. Anderson, Josh
3.
MTL
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (NJD)
you've heard the whole veteran to back up blackwood thing a million times i don't need to explain it again
NJD
  1. Allen, Jake
4.
MTL
  1. Rasmussen, Michael
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Dvorak, Christian
Buyouts
  • Karl Alzner: $833,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Jeff Petry: $1,250,000 (20%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$70,949,999$1,132,500$1,990,000$11,550,001

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
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Suzuki, Nick
$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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Caufield, Cole
$880,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Pitlick, Rem
$3,850,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
Wright, Shane
$925,000
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Dadonov, Evgeni
$5,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Rasmussen, Michael
$1,460,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Evans, Jake
$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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Gallagher, Brendan
$6,500,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
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Hoffman, Mike
$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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Armia, Joel
$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Romanov, Alexander
$5,750,000
LD/RD
RFA
Fleury, Marc-André
$3,750,000
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NMC
UFA - 2
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Harris, Jordan
$842,500
LD
RFA - 1
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Savard, David
$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Montembeault, Samuel
$850,000
G
UFA - 2
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Guhle, Kaiden
$863,333
LD
RFA - 3
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Barron, Justin
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Wideman, Chris
$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
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Price, Carey
$10,500,000
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NMC
UFA - 4
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Schueneman, Corey
$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Pezzetta, Michael
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Drouin, J.
Suzuki, N.
Caufield, C.
Hoffman, M.
Romanov, A.
Power Play 2
Pitlick, R.
Wright, S.
Rasmussen, M.
Dadonov, E.
Harris, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Suzuki, N.
Rasmussen, M.
Edmundson, J.
Savard, D.
Penalty Kill 2
Wright, S.
Evans, J.
Guhle, K.
Romanov, A.

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Jun. 26 at 8:07 p.m.
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This team kills me
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that anderson trade is... tough
Jun. 26 at 8:08 p.m.
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That NYI trade is a package for fiala or add a 1st + for debrincat ur insane if you think a gm would actually give that sort of package for a guy who is 28, hit 40 points and 20 goals once each
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Jun. 26 at 8:12 p.m.
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That NYI trade is a package for fiala or add a 1st + for debrincat ur insane if you think a gm would actually give that sort of package for a guy who is 28, hit 40 points and 20 goals once each


like i said anderson isnt worth this. lou is also not known to be the best gm in the world and andy is the kind of player he blows his entire load over.
Jun. 26 at 8:13 p.m.
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Drop the third round pick and add Dobby to the Dallas trade. And I’d still prefer we looked for dman elsewhere
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Jun. 26 at 8:14 p.m.
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No chance the Isles pay this for Anderson....
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Jun. 26 at 8:14 p.m.
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Absolutely not from the Islanders. For that I expect Romanov added to the deal
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Jun. 26 at 8:17 p.m.
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We Dont Want Barrie
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1st Round Pick for Petry? Nah, I'll go trade a 3rd Round Pick for Tyson Barrie instead
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Jun. 26 at 8:17 p.m.
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Hard pass from Detroit.
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Jun. 26 at 8:24 p.m.
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i just don’t see why the isles would target anderson at all. they have a ton of players like anderson. this is the type of package i’d expect them to put up for fiala, or a left-handed defenseman.
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Jun. 26 at 8:33 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
i just don’t see why the isles would target anderson at all. they have a ton of players like anderson. this is the type of package i’d expect them to put up for fiala, or a left-handed defenseman.


Maybe the Isles should just keep Dufour Lmao
Jun. 26 at 8:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Joey_mar_cur
like i said anderson isnt worth this. lou is also not known to be the best gm in the world and andy is the kind of player he blows his entire load over.


That Josh Anderson trade is hysterical. Lou ****ing sucks as a GM but I have to believe even he isn’t that ****ing stupid. I don’t think you should posts trades unless YOU believe they r fair. This ACGM is just you fantasizing about ripping off Lou, but you aren’t Joe Sakic lmao.
Jun. 26 at 8:38 p.m.
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Wings pass
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Jun. 26 at 8:44 p.m.
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No one needs to part with a 1st to get Anderson or Petry. I like dvorak, I think I'd consider that one.
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Jun. 26 at 8:45 p.m.
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You’re done.
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Jun. 26 at 8:46 p.m.
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Maybe the Isles should just keep Dufour Lmao


i like dufour and it’s cool that he’s been so successful but his skating still needs work and i’d for sure be willing to move him in a package for the right player. josh anderson is not that player.
Jun. 26 at 9:01 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
i like dufour and it’s cool that he’s been so successful but his skating still needs work and i’d for sure be willing to move him in a package for the right player. josh anderson is not that player.


I watch Dufour skate and I don’t see the concerns tbh. IMO the worst case scenario is he’s an average skater who makes up for it with size and hockey sense.
Jun. 26 at 9:01 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
i like dufour and it’s cool that he’s been so successful but his skating still needs work and i’d for sure be willing to move him in a package for the right player. josh anderson is not that player.


Islanders prospects start playing well and now everyone wants to trade them lol. This team doesn't feel close to competing for a cup. IMO they shouldn’t make a big investment via trade unless they see real signs of internal improvement from the younger core guys.
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Jun. 26 at 9:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
Islanders prospects start playing well and now everyone wants to trade them lol. This team doesn't feel close to competing for a cup. IMO they shouldn’t make a big investment via trade unless they see real signs of internal improvement from the younger core guys.


i agree with you on the second point, but i’ve always been, in both baseball and hockey, the type of person who’s cool with trading prospects for the right quality, established guys unless you have a guy with unbelievable potential (like francisco alvarez if you’re a mets fan at all), and the isles don’t have any of those rn. a guy like alex debrincat or fiala could be that right, established guy. josh anderson is not even close to that guy.
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Jun. 26 at 9:07 p.m.
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Yzerman would never
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Hard pass from Detroit.


Detroit would be dumb to pass that up lol
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Jun. 26 at 9:08 p.m.
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Please stop with these trades, not only is Josh Anderson not worth that package but he’s actually a cap dump
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Jun. 26 at 9:09 p.m.
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I watch Dufour skate and I don’t see the concerns tbh. IMO the worst case scenario is he’s an average skater who makes up for it with size and hockey sense.


i mean worst case scenario is he’s a guy who dominated the Q because of size but doesn’t have the skill to translate it to a higher level. lots of guys have dominated juniors in their D+2 seasons and not become anything. i’m excited for him too, but him playing well doesn’t make him an NHL guarantee and there are for sure red flags (i do think his skating’s a red flag and it needs to improve before he makes the nhl level)
Jun. 26 at 9:12 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
i mean worst case scenario is he’s a guy who dominated the Q because of size but doesn’t have the skill to translate it to a higher level. lots of guys have dominated juniors in their D+2 seasons and not become anything. i’m excited for him too, but him playing well doesn’t make him an NHL guarantee and there are for sure red flags (i do think his skating’s a red flag and it needs to improve before he makes the nhl level)


It could be but before I trade him. I'd like to see him with 1 full season in Bridgeport to make a fair assessment.
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Jun. 26 at 9:16 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
i mean worst case scenario is he’s a guy who dominated the Q because of size but doesn’t have the skill to translate it to a higher level. lots of guys have dominated juniors in their D+2 seasons and not become anything. i’m excited for him too, but him playing well doesn’t make him an NHL guarantee and there are for sure red flags (i do think his skating’s a red flag and it needs to improve before he makes the nhl level)


I don’t disagree, but Dufour was good during his Draft year too. He can’t control the level of competition he is playing and sometimes Qmjhl guys are undervalued.
Jun. 26 at 9:18 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
i mean worst case scenario is he’s a guy who dominated the Q because of size but doesn’t have the skill to translate it to a higher level. lots of guys have dominated juniors in their D+2 seasons and not become anything. i’m excited for him too, but him playing well doesn’t make him an NHL guarantee and there are for sure red flags (i do think his skating’s a red flag and it needs to improve before he makes the nhl level)


I don’t see the skating issue tbh. Like Scott Wheeler says, good and bad skating is a lazy term. His stride isn’t pretty but he’s strong and it’s been effective against CHL competition. There r guys who come on late.
Jun. 26 at 9:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Nightowl26
It could be but before I trade him. I'd like to see him with 1 full season in Bridgeport to make a fair assessment.


i agree but you do risk a few things doing this. it’s like with bolduc, last year after his AHL all star year, he probably had pretty solid value in a trade, this year he really struggled and his stock is pretty low. i wouldn’t move him unless it was for a good established player, but i’m perfectly fine moving him in the right deal.
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