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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #10 - Kadri oh Kadri, wherefore art thou Kadri?

Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:20 p.m.
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BeterChiarelli Please change it to QuinnHughestoNJ


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Please change Devil’s name to KappoKaakoFan
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:24 p.m.
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BeterChiarelli
Please change Devil’s name to KappoKaakoFan


To be fair he did play against men
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:30 p.m.
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BeterChiarelli
Please change Devil’s name to KappoKaakoFan


I changed it myself smile
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:32 p.m.
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I have a love-hate with my EPRinkside subscription. Those two are the only justifiable reason to subscribing right now and their draft stuff is genuinely awful. It's good reading but I don't find a ton of value in the subscription beyond unlimited searches and the upgraded search tools embedded in EliteProspects itself.

I like Ryan Lambert on Puck Soup, but I don’t know much about how he is as a writer. Also I don’t really feel like I need their draft guide when THN (I get the e-magazines free from my local library)+Pronman+Wheeler (the Athletic is $12/yr lol) all release lists of at least 100 guys ft. descriptions. I’m not crazy enough to care all that much about knowing a 6th round pick’s life story lol. And I’m not a huge fan of elite prospects’s UI either, I prefer to use hockeydb or hockey reference and find that all I need ep for is looking up like European minor pro league stats + international stats, which doesn’t happen all that often except around the draft, and doesn’t require a subscription anyway.
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:33 p.m.
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I changed it myself smile


Ok fine same
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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Can you please use your advanced stats website to compare Barzal with Horvat and Pettersson
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:40 p.m.
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Can you please use your advanced stats website to compare Barzal with Horvat and Pettersson


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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:43 p.m.
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Db1899
Can you please use your advanced stats website to compare Barzal with Horvat and Pettersson


both pettersson and Barzal had career worst seasons during 21-22 which brings down their 3 year sample
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.
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Can you please use your advanced stats website to compare Barzal with Horvat and Pettersson


if you do 18-21 instead of 19-22 they both look much better
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:45 p.m.
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Ok cool thanks. Horvat’s offensive numbers not the greatest. Reallly feel bad for him tbh. He has spent most of his career carrying duds like Roussel, Eriksson, and Virtanen as line mates
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:46 p.m.
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Ok cool thanks. Horvat’s offensive numbers not the greatest. Reallly feel bad for him tbh. He has spent most of his career carrying duds like Roussel, Eriksson, and Virtanen as line mates


a lot of his value comes from the powerplay
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:47 p.m.
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if you do 18-21 instead of 19-22 they both look much better
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Dang Petey had a very good GF/60 until he started this year off with like 17 points in 39 games. Think both players are going to bounce back big this season. Expect both to be point per game
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:48 p.m.
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a lot of his value comes from the powerplay


He’s definitely a beast. The tic tac toe play to Horvat in front of the net has been money for years. I think with some better and consistent line mates, his 5v5 production can improve
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:48 p.m.
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Not according to everybody, apparently





When it comes to Dallas, Pag has 0% credibility at all. He’s like 0/1973 on his “Stars rumours”.
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 11:00 p.m.
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Ok fine same


I will change it back soon

There is a more important cause I have to support
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 11:24 p.m.
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Devils gave Palat 6 mill x 5 but won’t pay Jesper Bratt what he’s worth on a long term deal. You can make the argument that Bratt is their best player and worth 8.5 mill per. It would probably take 7.5 mill to get him signed for 6-7 years


Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
Don't make me turn into the Jesper Bratt downplayer (I love the guy), but there is no way that he's worth 8.5 million a year, at least not yet-he was a mid 3rd liner before his terrific showing last year. I'd give him 7 million x 8 at most for now.

Agreed that they definitely should've prioritized his extension over signing Palat.


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I cam really see the Bratt deal being one where arbitration does both sides a lot of good: Bratt is going to get something that resembles a raise while the Devils won't have to gamble on term until they know exactly what Bratt is.

I think you can look directly to the Victor Olofsson extension as a very likely outcome. Something around $5M at two years. After that Bratt can prove what he is and be paid accordingly afterwards.


Bratt's agent is the one that is being stingy. He elongated Bratt's contract negotiations in 2020 as well. The problem with giving Bratt a bridge deal is that he will become a UFA. The best course of action would be giving him 7x7. Im prediciting (hoping) he signs it on his birthday tomorrow
Jul. 29, 2022 at 11:28 p.m.
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Bratt's agent is the one that is being stingy. He elongated Bratt's contract negotiations in 2020 as well. The problem with giving Bratt a bridge deal is that he will become a UFA. The best course of action would be giving him 7x7. Im prediciting (hoping) he signs it on his birthday tomorrow


I think your gonna have to face the facts and come to terms with the inevitable, Jesper bratt will soon be a Toronto maple leaf
Jul. 29, 2022 at 11:43 p.m.
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With Klingberg signing with them, Zegras playing for them (one of the most entertaining players in the league), and just the fact that they have a fun team in general, I think the Ducks will now be my second favourite team.
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 11:45 p.m.
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With Klingberg signing with them, Zegras playing for them (one of the most entertaining players in the league), and just the fact that they have a fun team in general, I think the Ducks will now be my second favourite team.


I like the makeup of their team but I just can’t get over those jerseys
Jul. 29, 2022 at 11:49 p.m.
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I like the makeup of their team but I just can’t get over those jerseys

He cheers for the Stars, he’s used to bad jerseys
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 11:51 p.m.
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He cheers for the Stars, he’s used to bad jerseys


Stars jerseys r just meh, anaheims are just plain ugly
Jul. 30, 2022 at 12:04 a.m.
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I think your gonna have to face the facts and come to terms with the inevitable, Jesper bratt will soon be a Toronto maple leaf


I think your gonna have to face this ratio
Jul. 30, 2022 at 12:11 a.m.
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I think your gonna have to face the facts and come to terms with the inevitable, Jesper bratt will soon be a Toronto maple leaf


Really curious as to know why as unless its because of the Swedish club our team seems to love adding members to

Believe we are on 6 or 7 now
Jul. 30, 2022 at 12:17 a.m.
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Really curious as to know why as unless its because of the Swedish club our team seems to love adding members to

Believe we are on 6 or 7 now


Canucks are literally team Sweden. Soon we will have enough to ice a 20 man Swedish Roster
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Jul. 30, 2022 at 12:20 a.m.
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Canucks are literally team Sweden. Soon we will have enough to ice a 20 man Swedish Roster


And soon there will be more Swed clubs on other teams grin

Don Cherry gonna love that
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