No one is paying to take on that awful Myers deal.

No one is paying to take on that awful Dickinson deal.

No one is paying to take on that awful Poolman deal.

None of those deals are awful, they're at worst slight overpayments. Now the best thing you find to occupy yourself is trolling Canucks fans? Pathetic

Who will pay to take that awful Kotkaniemi deal? Or that awful Gardiner deal? Or that awful Skjei deal?

a top 4 RHD that's the biggest player in the nhl at 1x6 with 1mill real cash is not an awful deal lmfao. Pearson is a .5 ppg player making 3.25m for another year as well. Think your numbers are off again

Didn't said anything about Pearson.

A 6 million dollar cap hit for that turnstile is a bad deal. You can spin that as much as you like, Myers spins more. That's the problem.

Except he's not a turnstyle. You speak of false facts without even knowing it.

You still believe this? Everyone outside of Vancouver has been saying this for years and you just chalk it up as lies eh? Myers is not worth half his contract. Poolman literally isn't an NHL defenceman. Now you are right, Carolina isn't exactly good at contracts all the time either, however, that doesn't make the Myers and Poolman deals better. They are still really bad.

Yes it is, despite being the biggest player in the NHL, he's also really not good. He's a 3rd pair defender making 6 million in cap. No one wants him and his deal looked terrible the moment you signed him.

I don't think he spins at all. More watches guy blow past him all the time and then get lost in his own zone.

Sir, if literally everyone beyond other Canuck super fans agree that Myers is really bad, you can't or shouldn't say they are all telling lies. If 15 people on the planet say the sky is green and everyone else says it's blue, I think it's clear those 15 people are wrong.

Weird cause the OEL - Myers paring was defensively better than Riley - Brodie this year

Without question that is bogus but if you have actually looked up any numbers to prove that the only thing you can likely hang your hat on is they got scored on more which was entirely goaltending. TO had the 27th ranked goaltending last year. Their defence is in reality very good, but reality means nothing on here. As we can tell by how much praise Myers and Schenn get.

This back and forth between some of the biggest homers on this site is the absolute gold that keeps me coming back

Outsider perspective:

-Myers is better than a 3rd pairing dman.
-Myers is not worth his $6 mil cap hit.
-How are we all still arguing about cap dumps? The OP *Has* to dump Myers so that he/she can overpay for Severson, who Canucks fans will be trying to dump a few years down the road. It's a dump. It's quite clearly a dump. Why would someone give you a pick to take away someone that you can't afford? Look at Patches. Look at Monahan. Look at all of the examples(!!!). The rare time that it doesn't happen (See: Ben Bishop) is when the contract is insured, and that still included a pick(7th). Kulikov got moved for future considerations, but the cap hit was $2.25, not $6.
-OEL/Myers are certainly not better than Rielly/Brodie, they're propped up by one of the top goaltenders in the NHL. OEL was considered *BAD* when he played in front of a couple of sieves the year before. That being said, the fact that someone on here referenced points for defencemen being a telling stat of how good they actually are is a hilarious bogey.
-50% of Leafs fans overrate their defence, and the other 50% underrate it. It's pretty safe to say that they've got a solid unit. Certainly not the best in the league, but not even close to as bad as some folks try to make it seem. The play of your goaltender can certainly be indicative of how good/bad your defence is, and the tale of two Jack Campbells last year probably proves that.

That is $8.5 million of RD going to Arizona…they would want something in return for their cap space.

B-but Myers is the tallest player in the league

The Leafs did have the 27th ranked goaltending and the underlying number tell the story that the defence was in fact well above average but goaltending was very sub par. Campbell isn't terrible by any means but he's definitely inconsistent. How is he going to do in front of a worse defence this year is anyone's guess. Demko has proven he's a very good goalie, top 10 for sure and that masks a lot of problems on the defence in Vancouver.

You’re right.

He’s not a turnstile.

He’s a traffic cone.

Arizona isn’t taking 8.5 mil in cap off your hands for nothing, You need to pay like everyone else, they aren’t just gonna do the Canucks a Favour Like That For Nothing, I’d say pay up a 1st or 2nd just like Monahan, In no way are you getting an asset in return for Myers that’s very wishful thinking but reality is You’d be paying to move that deal not have people paying you for it

Good reason to hang onto him then. Maybe extend him.

Myers isn't a negative asset

OEL and Myers weren't "propped" up by Demko. Don't understand why that bogus assumption always gets made

Goaltending can't bail out defense all the time, and that wasn't the case with Vancouver

There are non-Canucks fans that recognize that Myers is actually a decent player. You just don't happen to be one of them

Well, if that's the only thing that you disagreed with out of that whole post, then I guess I'll take that as a W.

This is not a surprising response. For years now Vancouver has been bad at giving up high danger chances. In the North Division season and the year before, literally the worst in the entire league at giving up rush chances. Markstrom bailed you out constantly and now Demko does. But instead of giving him credit, you'll argue the defence makes it easy. They do not at all. Demko is the reason you weren't a bottom 10 team last season. I won't make a prediction on the canucks this season because it's impossible to predict. If they finish 3rd in their division I wouldn't be surprised but I also would be less surprised if you finish 3rd last in the Pacific. I think most likely, LA, Vegas, Edmonton and Calgary all finish higher in the standings and you miss the playoffs again but who knows. The Pacific is the worst division in the game so anything can happen

It's a universal belief that Myers is without a doubt a cap dump. Most Canuck fans know this as well. He's an NHL defenceman but he's a bottom pairing guy in a perfect world. If he made 3 million even, he may have a little value, not much but some. If he made 1.5, he'd be valuable.