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If things dont get better

Created by: Justseth
Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 6, 2022
Published: Nov. 6, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Casey, Seamus [Reserve List]
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
Depth piece that gets moved at the deadline to division lead (since New Jersey is leading the Metro that's who I've chosen)
2.
PIT
  1. 2023 1st round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
Is quietly one of our best players right now and is one of only players who has plus in the +/- catagory
WPG
  1. Zucker, Jason ($2,750,000 retained)
3.
PIT
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Grans, Helge
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
The only reason i have Petterson in the trade is if the Kings can't get Chychrun. If they do then remove Petterson grans and the 2nd.
LAK
  1. Blueger, Teddy
  2. Pettersson, Marcus ($2,012,500 retained)
Additional Details:
Pittsburgh send one of there best PK and faceoff winner to LA for Andersson and their thrid from the Carter trade a couple deadlines ago
Buyouts
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$71,367,083$0$482,500$11,132,917
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$825,000$825,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Nov. 6, 2022 at 8:41 p.m.
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I dont know that we need him. Not poking, but right now we are good on the backend. If they move one or both of Severson/Graves then perhaps for a playoff run if they are in the need. Problem is they like Casey alot.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 8:41 p.m.
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Would def like Zucker on the Jets. I'd be wary of giving of a 1st for anyone though just because strong draft class + I'm not sure if we're really legit yet. If it were a decent prospect and a 2nd I would be a lot more receptive. I could probably be talked into it though with top-15 protection.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 8:42 p.m.
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I'd have to say that even though Zucker has been one of your better players, there is less than no chance Winnipeg even thinks of thinking of doing that.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 8:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
I'd have to say that even though Zucker has been one of your better players, there is less than no chance Winnipeg even thinks of thinking of doing that.


Idk man. Honestly, the thing the Jets are missing the most right now are versatile middle-six wingers. A 1st rounder might be a steep cost, but Zucker is a def a rental the Jets should consider targeting. Especially if retained.
Although saying that I would prefer they try and trade a defenceman for a forward instead of a pick
Nov. 6, 2022 at 8:47 p.m.
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Rutta would barely be a bottom pairing dman on the Devils. 2 2nds for him is a steep price
Nov. 6, 2022 at 8:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil
Rutta would barely be a bottom pairing dman on the Devils. 2 2nds for him is a steep price


Casey is worth more than a 2nd, it's absolute insanity he fell that far.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 8:50 p.m.
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Quoting: bikelh
Idk man. Honestly, the thing the Jets are missing the most right now are versatile middle-six wingers. A 1st rounder might be a steep cost, but Zucker is a def a rental the Jets should consider targeting. Especially if retained.


Nah. Zucker is pretty meh. Paid at least double what he is worth, misses at least half the season or more consistently. Definitely not worth moving a first for. A player of his quality can easily be had for an AHL'er or a mid round pick, or even on waivers. He's just not a difference maker to good or bad teams.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 8:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Nah. Zucker is pretty meh. Paid at least double what he is worth, misses at least half the season or more consistently. Definitely not worth moving a first for. A player of his quality can easily be had for an AHL'er or a mid round pick, or even on waivers. He's just not a difference maker to good or bad teams.


But the salary doesnt matter because it says it's being retained right there + he would be a rental. Also, he is absolutely a good player. His metrics are good and he's solid defensively. He'd be a perfect fit on Lowry's wing and could move up the lineup in case of injury. He doesn't score as you would hope, but players who control play are what we need. He's probably not worth a first straight-up, but he'd instantly become the 5th/6th best forward on the Jets. I understand not liking the cost of acquiring him here, but the player is the right kind of player for the Jets.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 9:00 p.m.
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Quoting: bikelh
But the salary doesnt matter because it says it's being retained right there + he would be a rental. Also, he is absolutely a good player. His metrics are good and he's solid defensively. He'd be a perfect fit on Lowry's wing and could move up the lineup in case of injury. He doesn't score as you would hope, but players who control play are what we need. He's probably not worth a first straight-up, but he'd instantly become the 5th/6th best forward on the Jets. I understand not liking the cost of acquiring him here, but the player is the right kind of player for the Jets.


Yeah, just a difference of opinion. You like him, I don't. It happens.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 9:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Yeah, just a difference of opinion. You like him, I don't. It happens.


I like any player that will prevent me having to watch Mason Appleton skate 30km into the end boards for 20 mins every night.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 9:36 p.m.
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NJ seems like that last team that'd trade for Ruuta and that's too much for him anyway.

I would hope the Jets wouldn't do that even if they're a playoff team.

Idk about the LA trade, the retention on Pettersson is pretty unrealistic so there's that.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 9:57 p.m.
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LA is the single best faceoff team in the league. They're also incredibly deep at bottom six forward. They have no need for Blueger.

I could see them giving back Pittsburgh's 3rd for Pettersson. They're not giving up the haul shown here.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 10:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Nah. Zucker is pretty meh. Paid at least double what he is worth, misses at least half the season or more consistently. Definitely not worth moving a first for. A player of his quality can easily be had for an AHL'er or a mid round pick, or even on waivers. He's just not a difference maker to good or bad teams.


Zucker is a good player but I just don't think this is a year to be moving a 1st if this draft is as deep as the hype it gets on here.

I just can't buy stock in a team who's top D pair is
Morrissey-Pionk/DeMelo, even if Hellebuyck has a career year I just can't see them going very far with that for a top D pair.

Zucker probably blocks a trade to Winnipeg anyway, pretty sure all the Canadian teams are on his no trade list.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 10:16 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Zucker is a good player but I just don't think this is a year to be moving a 1st if this draft is as deep as the hype it gets on here.

I just can't buy stock in a team who's top D pair is
Morrissey-Pionk/DeMelo, even if Hellebuyck has a career year I just can't see them going very far with that for a top D pair.

Zucker probably blocks a trade to Winnipeg anyway, pretty sure all the Canadian teams are on his no trade list.


Yup, I can see that. I wouldn't say Zucker is good, he's more meh than good, but in no universe is worth giving up a first for. As I said with the amount of time he consistently misses, he's a non factor. Especially to a team like Winnipeg.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 10:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Yup, I can see that. I wouldn't say Zucker is good, he's more meh than good, but in no universe is worth giving up a first for. As I said with the amount of time he consistently misses, he's a non factor. Especially to a team like Winnipeg.


I agree Zucker isn't worth moving a 1st for but he's better then a meh player.. lol
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 10:49 p.m.
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NJ and Peg are being robbed. Zucker is good, but definitely not a 1st rounder for a rental type. Rutta isn't a fit for NJ given what they already have.
Finally that LA trade is terrible for the Penguins. Moving one their best D on the season and their best PK guy/legit bottom 6 center is a big mistake.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 10:58 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I agree Zucker isn't worth moving a 1st for but he's better then a meh player.. lol


Yet, he produces about the same amount of points as Lowry does each year and you hate Lowry. So, if Lowry isn't any good....
Nov. 6, 2022 at 11:11 p.m.
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Rutta and Zucker ain’t close to that. I wouldn’t take that deal if I’m LA either.
Nov. 7, 2022 at 12:07 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Yet, he produces about the same amount of points as Lowry does each year and you hate Lowry. So, if Lowry isn't any good....


Zucker has consistently outproduced Lowry by a pretty wide margin for most of their careers, Zucker broke the 40 point mark three times and the 60 point mark once, Lowry has never hit the 30 point mark, ol Stonehands is off to a great start so maybe this is the year he'll finally shatter that ceiling.. lol 😆
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Nov. 7, 2022 at 6:16 a.m.
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Devils not best fit for Rutta
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Nov. 7, 2022 at 7:03 a.m.
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The Jets pick wont be late. You dont give up a mid 2023 pick for Jason Zucker. Maybe you get a 1st for Zucker but it would be from a team like Boston or Colorado that is going all in!
Nov. 7, 2022 at 7:10 a.m.
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Can't see any reason why the Devils (or any team for that matter) would give that much up for Jan Rutta.
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Nov. 7, 2022 at 7:56 a.m.
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I like where your heads at in terms of selling at deadline if were not better, but think the returns here are a little high
Nov. 7, 2022 at 9:38 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Zucker has consistently outproduced Lowry by a pretty wide margin for most of their careers, Zucker broke the 40 point mark three times and the 60 point mark once, Lowry has never hit the 30 point mark, ol Stonehands is off to a great start so maybe this is the year he'll finally shatter that ceiling.. lol 😆


Lol. Zucker hasn't seen 40 points since 2018-19. You sound like a Montreal fan living in the past. wink Lowry has out-produced him the last 2 years and is on par with him this year. I just wanted to confirm that you were using a hefty double standard there when comparing them.

The younger player with better production over the last couple years is stone hands, but the older player, with worse production and more time missed is a valuable bottom sixer. Okay then. smile
Nov. 7, 2022 at 9:41 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Yet, he produces about the same amount of points as Lowry does each year and you hate Lowry. So, if Lowry isn't any good....


All you have to do is look at the stats to know this is a load of bs lol. Zucker produces the same amount of points as Lowry when Lowry plays a full season and Zucker only plays half a season 😂. Zucker far outproduces Lowry.
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