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Dobson

Created by: Komisarek
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 28, 2022
Published: Nov. 28, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$825,000
3$825,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,500,000
2$3,000,000
2$1,750,000
2$1,250,000
1$850,000
2$800,000
1$800,000
1$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,500,000
2$2,500,000
2$1,500,000
1$800,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Bedard, Connor
3$950,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Foote, Cal [RFA Rights]
  2. Myers, Philippe
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (TBL)
  4. 2025 1st round pick (TBL)
Additional Details:
2022-23 TDL
TBL
    Zub with 50% retention
    2.
    OTT
    1. Dobson, Noah
    2. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
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    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$84,000,000$83,087,380$0$1,850,000$912,620
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    Bedard, Connor
    $950,000$950,000
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
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    $8,205,714$8,205,714
    LW
    UFA - 5
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    $7,950,000$7,950,000
    C
    UFA - 7
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    $4,975,000$4,975,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
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    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    LW
    RFA
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C
    RFA - 1
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    $2,950,000$2,950,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
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    $863,333$863,333
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $762,500$762,500
    LW
    RFA - 1
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 5
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    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $800,000$800,000
    C, LW
    UFA
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $835,000$835,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 2
    $850,000$850,000
    RD
    RFA - 1

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    Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:10 p.m.
    #1
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    i can't really tell who this trade makes less sense for tbh but it's an intriguing concept. i'm sure a ton of people are about to yell in the replies and it'd never happen but this is a fun thought exercise.
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    Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:12 p.m.
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    Chris Peralta
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    no
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:15 p.m.
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    I'd really like to find a way to get Dobson but Stutzle is literally untouchable

    The other 2 untouchables I'd say are Tkachuk and Sanderson, with Stu are the 3 key players in the rebuild


    Norris, Batherson and Chabot are also very unlikely to get moved but not as untouchable


    The only significant player the Sens can afford to move is Alex DeBrincat
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:35 p.m.
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    Off your rocker if you think Ottawa has any business trading Stützle. Point per game player at 20, he's not even close to at his peak.
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    Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:36 p.m.
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    Neither team makes this trade.
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    I'd really like to find a way to get Dobson but Stutzle is literally untouchable

    The other 2 untouchables I'd say are Tkachuk and Sanderson, with Stu are the 3 key players in the rebuild


    Norris, Batherson and Chabot are also very unlikely to get moved but not as untouchable


    The only significant player the Sens can afford to move is Alex DeBrincat


    I know he's on a great deal, but I'd trade Batherson for a top 4 D in a heartbeat.
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: SandersonTheGOAT
    I know he's on a great deal, but I'd trade Batherson for a top 4 D in a heartbeat.


    For Dobson yeah, but hmmm Batherson is quite important for our window. A first liner at that price is a big competitive advantage, too bad we're ruining a year of it

    We need to trade Alex DeBrincat for a RHD, no one else
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 7:11 p.m.
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    I would move Dobson for Stuzle. Very few players I would move Dobby for but he’s one. I wouldn’t do it for DeBrincat with the deal he’s going to command. Pulock for DeBrincat is closer. Ask me that one in the offseason lol.
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 7:18 p.m.
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    Judd Bracket ripoff
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    Why would Tampa do that. Zub is good but he’s not THAT good
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 7:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: Trotz2020
    I would move Dobson for Stuzle. Very few players I would move Dobby for but he’s one. I wouldn’t do it for DeBrincat with the deal he’s going to command. Pulock for DeBrincat is closer. Ask me that one in the offseason lol.


    Dobson for Stutzle 1 for 1 maybe. Dobson and a 1st is a hard pass
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 7:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    For Dobson yeah, but hmmm Batherson is quite important for our window. A first liner at that price is a big competitive advantage, too bad we're ruining a year of it

    We need to trade Alex DeBrincat for a RHD, no one else


    I know contracts are a factor, but I'd still take Cat. The goals are gonna come, he gets chances and he works hard. Batherson has struggled this season too, and when he's off he might as well be in the press box. He's so talented, but his lack of consistent effort night over night is brutal, I don't know how he hasn't taken more **** for it this season.
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 7:59 p.m.
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    Well that escalated quickly at the end there.

    I am struggling to process.
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 8:09 p.m.
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    we miss leo k
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    Isles pass because there's *nothing* behind their current RHD depth chart and Brannstrom is just another version of Robin Salo/Sebastian Aho as an offensive minded LHD.

    And while a PPG forward at 20 is one hell of an asset, I'd argue that a 22 year old RHD scoring at a 55 point pace is pretty damn close in value. I could see this being a one-for-one type of "challenge" trade if the players were unhappy in their current situations, but I can't see the Islanders needing to also add a 2023 1st rounder.
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    Nov. 28, 2022 at 8:34 p.m.
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    Isles pass. Dobson for stutzle is probably fair 1 for 1 (though as NYI I wouldn’t do it) but we aren’t adding a 1st. Also NYI is logjammed at C already and I don’t want to move stutzle to W.
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 8:51 p.m.
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    Take Foote or the first out deal
    Nov. 28, 2022 at 9:15 p.m.
    #16
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    Really? we are trading Dobson and a 2023 1st rounder???? DOBSON ISN'T AVAILABLE....He is our franchise Dman.
    Nov. 29, 2022 at 10:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: dannibalcorpse
    Isles pass because there's *nothing* behind their current RHD depth chart and Brannstrom is just another version of Robin Salo/Sebastian Aho as an offensive minded LHD.

    And while a PPG forward at 20 is one hell of an asset, I'd argue that a 22 year old RHD scoring at a 55 point pace is pretty damn close in value. I could see this being a one-for-one type of "challenge" trade if the players were unhappy in their current situations, but I can't see the Islanders needing to also add a 2023 1st rounder.


    Brannstrom is very underrated because some people somehow thought he would come and dominate the league at 20 y/o but I disagree with the comparison

    Salo is 24 and played 25 NHL games. I really doubt he'll ever be as good as Brannstrom already is

    Aho is a little more comparable but he's 27 soon and there's a reason Brannstrom already played more NHL games at 23 (turned 23 in Sept). He's less sheltered than both and actually have impressive advanced stats

    Sure, it's hard to shine in DJ Smith mess of a defensive structure/system but he has progressed every season, both sides of the puck. He looked impressive in some games and was one the Sens best players.

    I posted his advanced stats yesterday. Brannstrom among the 219 D-men who have at least played 100 ES minutes :

    - 22nd in CF/60
    - 25th in CF%
    - 21st in SF/60
    - 22nd in SF%
    - 7th in xGF/60
    - 21st in xGF%
    - 22nd in SCF/60
    - 15th in SCF%
    - 16th in HDCF/60
    - 47th in HDCF%


    And while Dobson is awesome, Stutzle will be a special player, which will get clearer and clearer in the near future. He has been PPG (57 pts in 56 GP) since February 15th (33rd in NHL scoring since) and his advanced stats are starting to look impressive. The scary part is that he's just scratching the surface.

    No chance I'd do Stutzle for Dobson + 1st and God knows how much the Sens would need Dobson
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    Nov. 29, 2022 at 11:01 a.m.
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    Quoting: Trotz2020
    I would move Dobson for Stuzle. Very few players I would move Dobby for but he’s one. I wouldn’t do it for DeBrincat with the deal he’s going to command. Pulock for DeBrincat is closer. Ask me that one in the offseason lol.


    I wouldn't do Dobson for DeBrincat regardless of his next contract if I was the Isles

    Pulock makes more sense and could actually help both teams

    Quoting: SandersonTheGOAT
    I know contracts are a factor, but I'd still take Cat. The goals are gonna come, he gets chances and he works hard. Batherson has struggled this season too, and when he's off he might as well be in the press box. He's so talented, but his lack of consistent effort night over night is brutal, I don't know how he hasn't taken more **** for it this season.


    I find that Batherson is a better player, more dangerous. Neither are very good defensively but they can be adequate in good hockey systems. Sure Batherson has been a bit frustrating these days but when considering contracts, I keep Batherson over DeBrincat 100 times out of 100.
     
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