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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 30, 2023
Published: Mar. 30, 2023
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Huff and puff all you like but Winnipeg made a bad deal for PLD in 2021 and have to deal with the consequences of a player that never wanted to be there. Call him Steve Francis, wtv you'd like but he's gone like a swirl wind over the Winnipeg forks.

Nobody is giving Chevy a top 15 pick as a rental. It is more than fair and quite frankly only realistic because Hughes may feel some pressure from the market and PLD hype is already in full gear in Montreal. Chevy will try his best and cry, moan but once he sees that there are no other offers better and he cant have the PLD distraction any longer, this is a easy sell with a top15 pick.

Come at me haters and you'll just be bulletin board material as usual. I tend to get these prices correct and I certainly dont oversell Habs players.
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Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$900,000
3$900,000
3$850,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,500,000
1$900,000
2$990,000
2$1,450,000
2$1,250,000
2$900,000
8$7,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2.
MTL
  1. Boeser, Brock ($1,500,000 retained)
VAN
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
3.
MTL
  1. 2024 5th round pick (LAK)
4.
MTL
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$86,500,000$74,635,832$1,170,000$4,832,500$11,864,168
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$557,500$558K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$5,150,000$5,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$885,000$885,000 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
C
RFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$990,000$990,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$897,500$897,500
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.
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with the way he's played the 2nd half of the season, VAN is not retaining money on Boeser, it's also going to cost a LOT more than that to acquire PLD, for that price WPG would be smarter to let MTL offer-sheet him in the summer.
Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:21 p.m.
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Not anywhere close to getting it done. I guess Montreal fans have given up the farcical offer sheet ploy and are now back to unrealistic lowball offers?

It needs to at least match what Horvat got to be competitive.
Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:21 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRevanchist17
with the way he's played the 2nd half of the season, VAN is not retaining money on Boeser, it's also going to cost a LOT more than that to acquire PLD, for that price WPG would be smarter to let MTL offer-sheet him in the summer.


What you want for Boeser? Im not touching the PLD subject its been done to deathl He isnt getting more from a contender that cant sign him long term. An offer sheet isnt happening. Chevy and Hughes will talk like adults and get a deal done in the Summer. Its gone too far
Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
What you want for Boeser? Im not touching the PLD subject its been done to deathl He isnt getting more from a contender that cant sign him long term. An offer sheet isnt happening. Chevy and Hughes will talk like adults and get a deal done in the Summer. Its gone too far


Boeser hasn't been great, but he is putting up the points. Canucks are very stingy when it comes to retaining so it is going to cost a late first if they retain that much. Even if it doesn't, I'd be very surprised if they settled for a future second round pick
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
What you want for Boeser? Im not touching the PLD subject its been done to deathl He isnt getting more from a contender that cant sign him long term. An offer sheet isnt happening. Chevy and Hughes will talk like adults and get a deal done in the Summer. Its gone too far


Boeser can go for a late 1st or high 2nd round pick but there will be no salary retention. When he gets played with skilled players he can put up 25-35 goals and up to 70 points. He's just been pushed down the depth chart and off the PP by Kuzmenko and as such his production has suffered. He's 2 years removed from putting up 49 points in 56 games on a bad Canucks team during the Covid year.
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.
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Boeser can go for a late 1st or high 2nd round pick but there will be no salary retention. When he gets played with skilled players he can put up 25-35 goals and up to 70 points. He's just been pushed down the depth chart and off the PP by Kuzmenko and as such his production has suffered. He's 2 years removed from putting up 49 points in 56 games on a bad Canucks team during the Covid year.


He's definitely making himself look like a top6 again. The problem is teams are still capped out (see Bjorkstrand return) and is he better than what they already have? Seems like the only teams to bid will be pretenders thus youll have a hard time getting an early 2nd unless like Mtl, they own another team's pick in the 2nd round
Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:33 p.m.
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Those are 2 pieces I'd assume to be in a Dubois deal but I feel like it's missing some prospects (maybe kidney and either kapanen or take the risk on Mailloux). Ultimately with amount of prospects that the habs have and picks they still have (3 firsts in next 2 drafts that can still increase) that these prospects may be more expendable to ensure that its the best offer and jets take it no doubt
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:33 p.m.
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He's definitely making himself look like a top6 again. The problem is teams are still capped out (see Bjorkstrand return) and is he better than what they already have? Seems like the only teams to bid will be pretenders thus youll have a hard time getting an early 2nd unless like Mtl, they own another team's pick in the 2nd round


PIT is the team rumored to be most interested and they have a ton of cap space this offseason, they could easily get it done
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:39 p.m.
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Not anywhere close to getting it done. I guess Montreal fans have given up the farcical offer sheet ploy and are now back to unrealistic lowball offers?

It needs to at least match what Horvat got to be competitive.


You've lost the plot. Dubois will Nylander the entire season if the Jets trade PLD anywhere other then mtl.

You need to understand how rare of a situation this is, the player AND agent have made clear which specific team they want to sign with. This dismantles any morsel of leverage Chevy has on this deal.He might as well take what he can get, because if he finds a way to make a deal with another team, the offer sheet is inevitable and that team will lose assets for nothing.

Jets are lucky to get a first and Dvo.
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:41 p.m.
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You've lost the plot. Dubois will Nylander the entire season if the Jets trade PLD anywhere other then mtl.

You need to understand how rare of a situation this is, the player AND agent have made clear which specific team they want to sign with. This dismantles any morsel of leverage Chevy has on this deal.He might as well take what he can get, because if he finds a way to make a deal with another team, the offer sheet is inevitable and that team will lose assets for nothing.

Jets are lucky to get a first and Dvo.


Common sense. Thank you. Its unfortunately rare here with basement dwellers.

Its funny because Hughes will be showing a pittance even giving away a mid 1st and if PLD wasnt French and the market wasnt clamoring for him, I guarantee he'd wait it out a year and get PLD for nothing. The fact that some Jets fans dont understand that an offer like this is.. well..generous is absolutely mind boggling
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
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Jets will rather use him all season then trade him for that
Mar. 30, 2023 at 6:52 p.m.
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Jets will rather use him all season then trade him for that


Cool. I'll be following this system closely. NOT!

Chevy will trade him and take the loss. I suggest you get over it now before the pain comes
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.
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We do Habs fans think PLD has to be traded? Every season there are about 100 UFAs and they certainly only a small % are traded. The worse trade about the trade proposed isn't the pick, but the inclusion of Dvorak.
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 7:08 p.m.
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We do Habs fans think PLD has to be traded? Every season there are about 100 UFAs and they certainly only a small % are traded. The worse trade about the trade proposed isn't the pick, but the inclusion of Dvorak.


Dvorak lol so random critique. Then include Hoffman. It doesnt matter but the money has to work. Winnipeg is the one team that will value these big money deals like Boeser and Dvorak as they want players committed to the org.

And yes, PLD will be traded. Friedman said it, Kypreios said well he said a lot of things cough Iginla cough but again we are operating from the galaxy of thought and knowledge so we have to assume that what the pundits say is correct and not throw stuff at the wall. If you like doing that, well, cool. But I tend to veer towards the more scientific approach.
Mar. 30, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
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Dvorak lol so random critique. Then include Hoffman. It doesnt matter but the money has to work. Winnipeg is the one team that will value these big money deals like Boeser and Dvorak as they want players committed to the org.


The money works for Montreal is they keep Dvorak. If Jets want to improve they are much better not having Dvorak gumming up their cap. Of course if the Jets want to compete next season they have no reason to trade PLD. I don't know why Habs fans want PLD so much this summer , they are aren't making the playoffs with him anyway next season.
Mar. 30, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
Jets will rather use him all season then trade him for that


That'd be really dumb, he's already quit, getting this would be WAY better then letting him walk.
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 7:23 p.m.
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Ehh PLD is not a rental, he's a RFA.
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Ehh PLD is not a rental, he's a RFA.


Context and you. In 2 different universe.
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That'd be really dumb, he's already quit, getting this would be WAY better then letting him walk.


Nobody is giving up a top15 pick for a rental. I really hate the idea of trading it but i fear the worst. Funny enough still fans think its not enough. because at the tdl yadda, yadda, yadda. Because PLD will for sure still be healthy at tdl, for sure, he will be having another career year after a high of 61 points. etc, etc And for sure he wont be a distraction all year and keep the Jets in limbo.

I don't for the life for me understand why any Jets fan would prefer being held hostage all year by PLD only to get an extra B prospect at best and a worse 1st round pick instead of a top15 pick.

Makes zero sense.
Mar. 30, 2023 at 7:54 p.m.
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Context and you. In 2 different universe.


I'd ask what you're babbling about, but I don;t care. He's not a rental. Fact. Cope how you wish.
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 7:58 p.m.
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I'd ask what you're babbling about, but I don;t care. He's not a rental. Fact. Cope how you wish.


I think it's one of those "when the facts don't support the narrative, discard the facts." ACGM's
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 7:59 p.m.
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He thinks PLD is signing for 7 mill LMAOOOO
Mar. 30, 2023 at 8:25 p.m.
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Nobody is giving up a top15 pick for a rental. I really hate the idea of trading it but i fear the worst. Funny enough still fans think its not enough. because at the tdl yadda, yadda, yadda. Because PLD will for sure still be healthy at tdl, for sure, he will be having another career year after a high of 61 points. etc, etc And for sure he wont be a distraction all year and keep the Jets in limbo.

I don't for the life for me understand why any Jets fan would prefer being held hostage all year by PLD only to get an extra B prospect at best and a worse 1st round pick instead of a top15 pick.

Makes zero sense.


I felt that way this past summer, thought going the season with PLD wanting out wasn't a good move for what was already known to be a fractured room and now here we are with the potential of doing the exact same thing in hopes we get a better offer at the 2024 TDL, go all in and make some deep run or convince Dubois to sign long term, do we really think any of that is gonna happen next time around?.. lol

I was saying last summer that the Panthers 1st would be better then originally thought and here we are and it looks to be a decent pick.

I can't believe there's a single Jet fan that would rather trade him at the next deadline, why would anyone want to take that risk OR think some contenders late 2024 1st+B-prospect is somehow better then the Panthers 2023 1st and whatever pieces might come from the Habs.

I'm in the minority amongst Jets fans though, just don't see it like the majority of them do I guess.
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Mar. 31, 2023 at 10:46 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I felt that way this past summer, thought going the season with PLD wanting out wasn't a good move for what was already known to be a fractured room and now here we are with the potential of doing the exact same thing in hopes we get a better offer at the 2024 TDL, go all in and make some deep run or convince Dubois to sign long term, do we really think any of that is gonna happen next time around?.. lol

I was saying last summer that the Panthers 1st would be better then originally thought and here we are and it looks to be a decent pick.

I can't believe there's a single Jet fan that would rather trade him at the next deadline, why would anyone want to take that risk OR think some contenders late 2024 1st+B-prospect is somehow better then the Panthers 2023 1st and whatever pieces might come from the Habs.

I'm in the minority amongst Jets fans though, just don't see it like the majority of them do I guess.


it is just that the jets fans are pissed that they are screwed.. they dont want to admit it..... if dubois is not traded or signed by july first then montreal will offer sheet him (please see kotkomeimi) for 6.3 mil and winnipeg gets a later 2024 ist round pick and a third round pick.. not as good as flo pick this year. Now chevy knows this so he has to trade dubois before the trade deadline to get that great pick in this years draft...has to happen else you should fire Chevy
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Mar. 31, 2023 at 10:41 p.m.
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it is just that the jets fans are pissed that they are screwed.. they dont want to admit it..... if dubois is not traded or signed by july first then montreal will offer sheet him (please see kotkomeimi) for 6.3 mil and winnipeg gets a later 2024 ist round pick and a third round pick.. not as good as flo pick this year. Now chevy knows this so he has to trade dubois before the trade deadline to get that great pick in this years draft...has to happen else you should fire Chevy


He wont be offer sheeted but the threat, alone, sets the price. So they meet in the middle which is conveniently around that Florida pick. This is too obvious. You have to be an oblivious homer or a troll not to see the writing on the wall. Unfortunately, most that comment do it in reactionary faction, almost always, negatively, so you have the same clowns in every ACGM. Most Jets fans are quite aware of the situation and resigned to the new reality.
 
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