Context:

https://youtu.be/H5K0Bq_8_eU?t=46m06s

I can’t imagine Columbus would want to move Jiricek

No thanks from Columbus, no need to blow up your salary structure for another winger.

We don't in the slightest. I'm making fun of the braindead Dangle clip

I really like Steve and love his passion. But he is wildly overvaluing nylander. Like astronomically. Just like most fans overvalue pending ufas.


I thought that whole segment was kinda crappy to do tbh. Doesn’t understand our situation at all and just thinks we would throw away our rebuild for ANOTHER OVERPAID winger.

i honestly think dangle is baiting for engagement here.
i get that a lot of the leafs media have a penchant to overvaluing their players but that's just beyond the pale, no way steve actually believes that

Yeah, it was such a dumb segment. I watched their pod the entire 21-22 season and thought it was a really high quality product, but hadn't for a while prior to hearing Steve said this. Really off the deep end with this one and clearly no understanding of Columbus's situation.

I could agree if I'd seen it anywhere, but the Clio was literally impossible to find without going nearly an hour into the podcast. No shorts, clips on Twitter, anything. Just a 1 off, dead serious mention of it here. Doesn't really make sense for it to be for engagement given that.

damn. you might be right then

I think he meant if it was just him if it was like a 1 for 1

All negotiations go like that u start with the big fish then move down

Columbus has a lot of assets rn and the moves they have been making imply win now

Could see them make a big swing for Willy but they would probs want to send Peeke over their young RD prospect. Unless they really be bold lul

Lol why would you pay that much ????

I'd tend to think the wording woulda been different based on how people usually talk, but definitely not impossible he meant it like that. Regardless, it's still super ignorant of CBJ's needs to suggest that in any capacity. I'm not reading into it too deep though, just wanted to make a joke post about it haha.

Dangle said a nylander to cbj trade *stsrts* with jiricek. Implying much more. It was an asinine take.

I'm going to agree and disagree with you on this one.

Steve certainly did not take into account that CBJ is not going to move Jiricek, nor is a winger first on their priority list. So Nylander to CBJ doesn't make a lot of, if any, sense.

I don't think he's necessarily wrong in what Nylander can return in value. More so because if they trade him this offseason, whoever gets him will get a 40 goal scorer at under 7M for a year. But of course the big extension will come after next season.

He does have some wild takes sometimes.

That dude is dumb

Sadly he profoundly said “starts” like 3 times. Clearly implying a lot more needed to be added He was clearly upset with the reporting he wants that much money and overreacted imo.

Personally im surprised he went with Jireck as when I look at Columbus they loaded with Center prospects and Toronto one could argue could use someone for the future

Kind of like what we saw WPG do where they moved PLD and brought in Vilardi and others u know that stuff

Yeah, I'd definitely agree with this. Nylander is a hell of a player and I think he's fair in his asks on a contract and Toronto would be fair to ask this kind of value (provided he comes with an extension and isn't a rental for the acquiring team). Take Jiricek's value and have a package from a team that makes more sense to want Nylander and I think it's definitely fair.

Only reason Columbus would have any interest is if he's going to be a full time C, but that just hasn't been the case, so them even suggesting CBJ is kinda wild.

I think nylander wouod return alot of value but nobody is moving a player like jiricek for one season of a cheap nylander. Other players I’ve seen in trades are like wright, nemec, Hudson, Johnson, Johnston (Dallas) and he just isn’t returning a blue chip guy like any of those.

A 10 million dollar nylander isn’t worth much in comparison.
Look at jt mjller. Great player worth alot before his extension. Now, it seems like they might get a first and a small add or contract swap.
And don’t get me wrong I love Steve, but some of his (and jesses) takes on cbj are at times uninformed and boarder line insulting to cbj and other smaller markets.

Now I could see a return of a first, solid prospect (former first rounder type) and a 40-50 pt roster player in his prime.

Toronto tried Nylander at C briefly, but it didn't make a lot of sense. On the wing is where he is meant to be.

He’s a Walsh client and they have him on their payroll so he comes up a decent bit on their show.

Nylander asked for more than 10M, he is going to get less than that. I'm expecting in the 9.25-9.5M range. Seems to be some conflicting opinions on whether that would be long term or a 3-4 year deal. I don't really know at this point.

I think that if TOR does decide to move him, it won't be for a package that includes picks and prospects. In my opinion, it's going to be a higher end defenseman that is similar in value. Which is why I think we are seeing so many Hanifin/Pesce deals involving Nylander on here. The values in these trades on here are pretty crazy, but who knows at this point. I can't see TOR trying to get younger to that extent while still in win now mode.

Yep, it's the same situation as Schmaltz, who was a semi-popular to CBJ target (except he's not as good and cost controlled) where people think he CAN be a C, but there's just no track record of him doing it effectively in the NHL. Way better wingers that wouldn't make sense to put out of the position they've been playing for years. I actually LOVE Schmaltz as a player, but Columbus needs a center and he hasn't done it in the NHL to the same level as he's played winger.

On top of this stupidity, I took exception to them retroactively saying the Gaudreau signing was an overpay. He took a year and $750k less than what was on the table in Calgary and is making almost $2M/year less than Panarin. Everyone was ranting about how he took less to go to Columbus than other options when he signed. That contract wasn't an overpay and they're just pulling the same superiority complex bs that people in Canadian markets so often do with the Jackets.

The Gaudreau erasure has actually been WILD. I was never huge on him (my opinion was probably slightly low than consensus at any given time), but the popular opinion about the quality of player he is and how it's changed the last year is insane. Just cause he played a year on a horrible team killed by injuries he's getting left off top 10 LW lists now??? Can we get real.