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Created by: arman2002k

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 12, 2023

Published: Jul. 12, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

This is the best and most realistic team on this site. Samsonov has high value on the market. Especially for LA Kings. The return is fair. Lilegren is a young established top 4 rfa defensemen. A first round pick is fair. Matt Murray is a perfect contract for Chicago to take on, because they have more than enough cap space and Murray is a player that can start a lot of games for them when he is healthy. Robertson still has nhl potential and Chicago would be a perfect place for him to play more games in the nhl. Then Nylander for Konency 1 for 1. This is a great trade for both sides. For the Leafs because they have more cap space to work with over the next few seasons, and for the Flyers, because they are getting the better player in this deal and he comes with a long term extension. Naturally, the Flyers would have to add a little something else to make the trade more even. So, they agree to retain 1.5 million in salary. None of these trades are unrealistic, and they all make sense for each team.

Free Agent Signings

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Aston-Reese, Zach	1	$775,000
White, Colin	2	$1,250,000
Jones, Martin	2	$1,000,000

Trades

TOR

Roy, Matt
Talbot, Cam
2025 3rd round pick (LAK)

LAK

Samsonov, Ilya [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

Samsonov signs 4.25 million x 4

TOR

2024 1st round pick (WPG)

WPG

Liljegren, Timothy

TOR

2024 5th round pick (CGY)

CHI

TOR

Konecny, Travis ($1,500,000 retained)

PHI

Nylander, William

Additional Details:

10 million x 7 years ext

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$81,684,917	$0	$1,000,000	$1,815,083

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Konecny, Travis $4,000,000$4,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	White, Colin $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Lafferty, Sam $1,150,000$1,150,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 1	Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Roy, Matt $3,150,000$3,150,000 RD UFA - 1	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Klingberg, John $4,150,000$4,150,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Talbot, Cam $1,000,000$1,000,000 ($1,000,000$1M) G NTC UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2	Jones, Martin $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Holmberg, Pontus $800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0) C, LW RFA - 2
Aston-Reese, Zach $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW, RW UFA - 1

Jul. 12, 2023 at 10:14 p.m.

tkecanuck341

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Any trade for Matt Roy is not realistic.

Jul. 12, 2023 at 10:17 p.m.

IconicHawk

Bedard23

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1. The kings just signed Talbot, don’t think they’ll trade him before he ever sees the light of day with them

2. The Jets aren’t paying a potential top 10 pick for a fringe second to third pairing defensemen

3. I’ve said this a 1000000000 times now Chicago has no need for either

4. By the time the flyers are even a playoff team again, at least half of Nylander’s contract will have gone by, not much longterm benefit

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Jul. 12, 2023 at 10:17 p.m.

Jets12Kozy

KFC

Joined: Mar. 2021

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A 1st for liljegren? Pound salt

Jul. 12, 2023 at 10:18 p.m.

KingExLeafs

Joined: Jul. 2021

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Brodie and Timmins should not be in that D core next season.

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Jul. 12, 2023 at 10:20 p.m.

LaffsFan

Big Dawg JT

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im sry but gettin rid of samsonov and liljegren aint realisitic

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Jul. 12, 2023 at 10:25 p.m.

IconicHawk

Bedard23

Joined: May 2021

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Quoting: LaffsFan

im sry but gettin rid of samsonov and liljegren aint realisitic

So you decline the second trade even though you robbed the jets so hard you ended up on the FBI’s most wanted list

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Jul. 12, 2023 at 10:29 p.m.

LukaTAG

Joined: Jun. 2021

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Quoting: IconicHawk

So you decline the second trade even though you robbed the jets so hard you ended up on the FBI’s most wanted list

It's not a robbery

Jul. 12, 2023 at 10:42 p.m.

JKCpp

Hank

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I’m my opinion Konechy>Nylander and I think flyers are looking for picks for Konechy after drafting Michkov

Jul. 12, 2023 at 11:06 p.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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Not realistic to think that Los Angeles would trade Matt Roy for Ilya Samsonov at this point, never mind the extras. And hilariously unrealistic to think that Chicago is going to take Matt Murray, whom the Black Hawks can't buy out, off your hands solely in exchange for the brittle Nic "Outward Bound in Every Toronto ACGM" Robertson.

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Jul. 12, 2023 at 11:09 p.m.

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IconicHawk

Bedard23

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Quoting: LukaTAG

It's not a robbery

Least delusional leafs fan:

Jul. 12, 2023 at 11:12 p.m.

#11

LukaTAG

Joined: Jun. 2021

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Quoting: IconicHawk

Least delusional leafs fan:

Sandin got a 1st in a better draft + Erik Gustafson. Liljegren is better and worth more than Sandin.

...

Jul. 12, 2023 at 11:18 p.m.

#12

earl08

Joined: Jan. 2019

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I would have traded Willy to WPG for Hellebuyck, then rented one of CGY UFAs or both of them.

Jul. 13, 2023 at 2:26 a.m.

#13

Moss_Bucket

See you space cowboy

Joined: May 2023

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10 million for Nylander for seven years on a rebuilding team is not that swell. By year four of that deal we may be competitive again. Either way Flyers aren't looking to make a big name splash, so they'd be looking for picks and prospects over a single big name who really won't speed up the process. Doubt Nylander signs with a rebuilder.

Jul. 13, 2023 at 8:28 a.m.

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Hawksguy81

Joined: Nov. 2022

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Hawks decline. If all it took to dump Murray was Robertson, Murray wouldn't still be a Leaf.

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Jul. 13, 2023 at 8:41 a.m.

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IconicHawk

Bedard23

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Quoting: LukaTAG

Sandin got a 1st in a better draft + Erik Gustafson. Liljegren is better and worth more than Sandin.

...

The difference in that regard is that A) It wasn’t the Capitals first round pick, it was Boston’s and B) It was guaranteed Sandin would get playing time because the capitals were selling what they could at the deadline

In Liljegren’s case it’s not guaranteed he even makes the Jets let alone the third pairing

And the Jets are going to be dog **** next year so that pick is off the table

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Jul. 13, 2023 at 9:01 a.m.

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LukaTAG

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Quoting: IconicHawk

He easily makes it in over Schmidt and puh-lease, Jets are easily a playoff team

Jul. 13, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.

#17

HAWKS2025

Joined: Apr. 2016

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Hawks don't take on Matt Murray without a first attached to him. Robertson is an iffy prospect who is undersized and hurt every year. HARD PASS. Maybe Murray and Knies for future considerations would get it done from Chicago's perspective. Doubt Toronto does that deal. They likely missed the boat on using Chicago to take on Murray's contract. Hawks have reached the cap floor, and their asking price to take on bad deals has skyrocketed since then. Toronto's likely only option is to buy him out when their next buyout window opens after Samsonov's arbitration hearing.

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Jul. 13, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.

#18

IconicHawk

Bedard23

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Quoting: LukaTAG

He easily makes it in over Schmidt and puh-lease, Jets are easily a playoff team

2019 has passed, Hellebuyck is on his way out and he was like the main reason the jets kept their relevancy for as long as they did

Jul. 13, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.

#19

LukaTAG

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Quoting: IconicHawk

2019 has passed, Hellebuyck is on his way out and he was like the main reason the jets kept their relevancy for as long as they did

Doubt he's going this year if they're in contention. Not a chance I do this as the Leafs

Jul. 13, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.

#20

Windjammer

Joined: Jul. 2020

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Liljegren isn't worth anywhere close to a 1st.

Jul. 13, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.

#21

IconicHawk

Bedard23

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Quoting: LukaTAG

Doubt he's going this year if they're in contention. Not a chance I do this as the Leafs

Hellebuyck isn’t going to extend and the jets won’t want to lose him for nothing, that’s terrible asset management

Jul. 13, 2023 at 2:44 p.m.

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LukaTAG

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Quoting: IconicHawk

Hellebuyck isn’t going to extend and the jets won’t want to lose him for nothing, that’s terrible asset management

Likely scenario is self rental, sell at deadline if not competitive

Jul. 13, 2023 at 4:02 p.m.

#23

IconicHawk

Bedard23

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Quoting: LukaTAG

Likely scenario is self rental, sell at deadline if not competitive

They won’t be competitive and they seem to know that already so they won’t wait until the deadline

Jul. 13, 2023 at 5:47 p.m.

#24

LukaTAG

Joined: Jun. 2021

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Quoting: IconicHawk

They won’t be competitive and they seem to know that already so they won’t wait until the deadline

Their GM has been very clear that they want to be competitive this year

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