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2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #4 - The quiet period

Sep. 12, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
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I honestly believe Jenner and Babcock to tell the truth here.
Feel like it's perfectly natural to (politely) ask someone you're entering a work-relationship with to show some pictures of family and loved ones if it comes up naturally in a conversation between colleagues.
Also, I don't hold this Biz and Spittin Chiclets in very high regard and could totally see them blowing something like this out of proportion purely for the engagement.
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Thing honestly got so overblown I almost feel bad for Babs lul
Sep. 12, 2023 at 5:12 p.m.
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Edited Sep. 13, 2023 at 12:03 p.m.
Yes see.

It’s petty, whiny dude versus reality(whomever texted biz).

If he didn’t want to participate he should have said no. End of story for me. I respect other views but I can’t adopt them on this one.

It’s also probably true that Babcock is not a great leader. Interesting and weird are my adjectives for him, both neither positive or negative.

Both things are okay at the same time today, that Babcock prob sucks and one of the dudes on his team is way too soft/didn’t handle the situation anywhere near the way it should be handled. In light of the statement from Jenner/Babcock, Barstool looks like a tabloid.

Side note in hindsight: if Jarmo holds this together and they do okay then Jarmo deserves credit. Thinking about his situation: I’d consider taking the C back. Texting a radio show host instead of talking to your gm is a lack of understanding of the C. The person who wears it needs to make the group better, but in this case they may have made the group worse. I cannot stress how important team privacy is. If nothing else, there is substantial scandalous **** that occurs that wouldn’t help league pr, such as the Erik Karlsson situation. There’s 1,000x that many situations that aren’t public.
Sep. 12, 2023 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Thing honestly got so overblown I almost feel bad for Babs lul


Average media moment
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Sep. 12, 2023 at 7:21 p.m.
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Comtois to VGK on a PTO and Erne to EDM on a PTO
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Sep. 12, 2023 at 11:49 p.m.
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Jackson Cates to NYIslanders on a PTO
Sep. 13, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
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Michkov gets loaned to Sochi, a move that should really excite Flyers fans. Should mean more playing time
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 11:05 a.m.
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watching barstool go after babcock

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Sep. 14, 2023 at 1:03 a.m.
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Not specifically an NHL topic, but Capfriendly has been teasing something pretty big on Twitter over the last few weeks. It's been in development for 4 years, and hasn't been guessed by anyone yet (so no, it's not an app). They also posted this partial teaser image. Any guesses on what it is?

https://x.com/CapFriendly/status/1701596583731876023?s=20
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Sep. 14, 2023 at 9:07 a.m.
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After looking into the whole Barstool-Babcock thing, I've come to the conlcusion that if this was a coach like Jon Cooper or Rod Brind'amour, this wouldn't be such a hot-button issue. It's because it's Mike Babcock that people are pissed.

At the end of the day, it's a nothing issue.
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Sep. 14, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
Not specifically an NHL topic, but Capfriendly has been teasing something pretty big on Twitter over the last few weeks. It's been in development for 4 years, and hasn't been guessed by anyone yet (so no, it's not an app). They also posted this partial teaser image. Any guesses on what it is?

https://x.com/CapFriendly/status/1701596583731876023?s=20


I think it's somewhat related to the GM game, probably a fantasy hockey simulator or something.
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Sep. 14, 2023 at 2:44 p.m.
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Dahlin apparently be eyeing a 5 year deal

Buffalo staying at 8 years and hes not happy about it
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Sep. 14, 2023 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Dahlin apparently be eyeing a 5 year deal

Buffalo staying at 8 years and hes not happy about it


welp guess he's being traded to the Flyers
Sep. 14, 2023 at 3:41 p.m.
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Dahlin apparently be eyeing a 5 year deal

Buffalo staying at 8 years and hes not happy about it


Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
welp guess he's being traded to the Flyers


Nope, he's going to Colorado because god hates us all

Somehow MacFarland will make it work cap-wise
Sep. 14, 2023 at 6:05 p.m.
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Kind of funny how my prediction got reversed

Thought Bailey would be a PTO in Toronto and Gregor in Ottawa
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Sep. 15, 2023 at 9:54 a.m.
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A lot of people will start deleting their tweets

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Sep. 15, 2023 at 10:25 a.m.
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Zach Aston-Reese PTO to Carolina. steal by them
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Sep. 15, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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Zach Aston-Reese PTO to Carolina. steal by them


Good pickup? Yes. Steal? No
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Sep. 15, 2023 at 11:22 p.m.
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List of the remaining unsigned NHL training camp level players:

C -
Paul Stastny
Derek Stepan
Derick Brassard
Eric Staal
Colin White

RW -
Patrick Kane (IR)
Jesse Puljujarvi (IR)
Phil Kessel
Josh Leivo
Wayne Simmonds

LW -
Zach Parise
Jujhar Khaira
Kiefer Bellows

D -
Ethan Bear (IR)
Nick Holden
Alex Edler
Ryan Murray
Scott Harrington
Jake Gardiner (injury status?)

G -
Brian Elliott
Jaroslav Halak
Jon Gillies
Michael Hutchinson
Cory Schneider
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Sep. 16, 2023 at 12:39 a.m.
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Quoting: HockeyScotty
List of the remaining unsigned NHL training camp level players:

C -
Paul Stastny
Derek Stepan
Derick Brassard
Eric Staal
Colin White

RW -
Patrick Kane (IR)
Jesse Puljujarvi (IR)
Phil Kessel
Josh Leivo
Wayne Simmonds

LW -
Zach Parise
Jujhar Khaira
Kiefer Bellows

D -
Ethan Bear (IR)
Nick Holden
Alex Edler
Ryan Murray
Scott Harrington
Jake Gardiner (injury status?)

G -
Brian Elliott
Jaroslav Halak
Jon Gillies
Michael Hutchinson
Cory Schneider


Leivo signed in the KHL earlier today
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Sep. 16, 2023 at 1:04 a.m.
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Quoting: HockeyScotty
List of the remaining unsigned NHL training camp level players:

C -
Paul Stastny
Derek Stepan
Derick Brassard
Eric Staal
Colin White

RW -
Patrick Kane (IR)
Jesse Puljujarvi (IR)
Phil Kessel
Josh Leivo
Wayne Simmonds

LW -
Zach Parise
Jujhar Khaira
Kiefer Bellows

D -
Ethan Bear (IR)
Nick Holden
Alex Edler
Ryan Murray
Scott Harrington
Jake Gardiner (injury status?)

G -
Brian Elliott
Jaroslav Halak
Jon Gillies
Michael Hutchinson
Cory Schneider


I think White signed a PTO with Pittsburgh and I believe Holden retired
Sep. 16, 2023 at 11:40 a.m.
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https://x.com/AntSanPhilly/status/1703054954292715613?s=20

Apparently Shane Pinto might be on the move, negotiations with Ottawa seem to not be going far as of now.

Flyers have been one of the teams too express interest
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Sep. 16, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
https://x.com/AntSanPhilly/status/1703054954292715613?s=20

Apparently Shane Pinto might be on the move, negotiations with Ottawa seem to not be going far as of now.

Flyers have been one of the teams too express interest


Ottawa should trade Pinto for a RD prospect of similar caliber if a deal cant be worked on
Sep. 16, 2023 at 1:29 p.m.
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Juhjar Khaira to Nashville apparently
Sep. 16, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.
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Avs are reporting that backup goalie Pavel Francouz will miss time due to slower than expected recovery from off-season surgery.

Either Justus Annunen gets the backup job or the Avs hit the waiver wire (which will have some pretty good options: Reimer/Lyon (Detroit), or possibly, Stolarz, Martin Jones, Rittich, Hellberg, Stalock).

There are some cheap trade options such as: Casey DeSmith (Montreal) and Eric Comrie (Buffalo) but they both have $1.8m AAV x 1 year deals and if/when Francouz is healthy the Avs would have not have cap space (even buried); same goes for Dan Vladar but he has a longer deal so doubly so ($2.2m x 2). UFA options are Jaroslav Halak and Brian Elliott as the "best" available.

Of all the options I would prefer a trade with Montreal for DeSmith if they would retain 50% of his salary (or a least $800k so we can bury him in AHL if needed later in the year). If the Habs waive him and we pick him up then we'll be over the cap when Frankie returns.

I also like some of Ottawa's depth at goalie: Mandolese and Søgaard but they are both waiver exempt so no pressure on the Sens to move one of them.
Sep. 16, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
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Avs are reporting that backup goalie Pavel Francouz will miss time due to slower than expected recovery from off-season surgery.

Either Justus Annunen gets the backup job or the Avs hit the waiver wire (which will have some pretty good options: Reimer/Lyon (Detroit), or possibly, Stolarz, Martin Jones, Rittich, Hellberg, Stalock).

There are some cheap trade options such as: Casey DeSmith (Montreal) and Eric Comrie (Buffalo) but they both have $1.8m AAV x 1 year deals and if/when Francouz is healthy the Avs would have not have cap space (even buried); same goes for Dan Vladar but he has a longer deal so doubly so ($2.2m x 2). UFA options are Jaroslav Halak and Brian Elliott as the "best" available.

Of all the options I would prefer a trade with Montreal for DeSmith if they would retain 50% of his salary (or a least $800k so we can bury him in AHL if needed later in the year). If the Habs waive him and we pick him up then we'll be over the cap when Frankie returns.

I also like some of Ottawa's depth at goalie: Mandolese and Søgaard but they are both waiver exempt so no pressure on the Sens to move one of them.


They should just send a 4th to MTL for Desmith with some retention
 
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