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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 4, 2023
Published: Nov. 4, 2023
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Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
1$2,250,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Hathaway, Garnet ($1,175,000 retained)
  2. Seeler, Nick
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Phili gets a D who if he could stay healthy would b a fixture in the top 4 (likely top 2). At this stage of their rebuild it's clear they are willing to take risks and this is a good one to take.
PHI
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Toronto gets a solid 4LW and a DFD
2.
TOR
  1. Joshua, Dakota
  2. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
For Vancouver they get another top 4 D. Whatever criticisms you have of McCabe. He is viewed as a top 4 guy, went for a 1st and 2nd at last year's deadline. For Vancouver who have just 5 NHL D this is a massive move.

Canucks fans will also be upset with Joshua included here but he's on the verge of waivers, hasn't looked good. They have gone from the checking 4th line be thrived in last year to a 4th line that is meant to play like a 3rd line with Garland and Suter and he hasn't fit.
VAN
  1. McCabe, Jake
Additional Details:
Toronto moves on from McCabe who didn't fit into the role we needed from him. Get
3.
TOR
  1. Kartye, Tye
  2. Oleksiak, Jamie
Additional Details:
Bertuzzi becomes the second biggest offensive threat in Seattle with a chance to lead his own line which seems to be the best role for him.

Seattle also makes this move with the long-term in mind. Oleksiak hasn't looked great this year. There is risk in 3 more years of him at almost $5M given he's already in the wrong side of 30.
SEA
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
Additional Details:
Toronto gets a DFD and moves on from Bertuzzi who clearly can't be the third wheel for the top 2 lines.
4.
TOR
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Winnepeg gets a guy with top 6 potential which they need.
WPG
  1. Domi, Max
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
5.
TOR
  1. Weegar, MacKenzie
Additional Details:
Calgary moves Weegar before the contract going till he is 38 becomes negative value.

They get Klingberg to help their PP this year. Niemla and 1st is about what they would get for Weegar given his contract in a rebuild (more than Karlsson got). Seems like a win win. They get value for selling Weegar without needed to completely give up on this season.
CGY
  1. Klingberg, John
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
6.
TOR
  1. Faksa, Radek ($1,625,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Dallas saves cap and swaps 4th liners.
DAL
  1. Gregor, Noah
Additional Details:
Toronto gets a PK guy who is good at faceoffs.
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2024
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21$83,500,000$83,447,283$0$0$52,717
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$775,000$775,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
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UFA - 1

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Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:10 p.m.
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drop some insider info
Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:11 p.m.
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All seem far fetched for everyone not named Leafs.

McCabe is not getting a 1st, Bertuzzi is injury prone, Domi is not getting a 2nd this year for a 3rd two years away and Weeger will.cost more.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:12 p.m.
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You think the Canucks are paying a 1st + for McCabe 😂
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
You think the Canucks are paying a 1st + for McCabe 😂


Also no fit since he shoots left.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: mikearky
All seem far fetched for everyone not named Leafs.

McCabe is not getting a 1st, Bertuzzi is injury prone, Domi is not getting a 2nd this year for a 3rd two years away and Weeger will.cost more.


The idea that McCabe isn't worth a 1st is ludicrous. What happened in 6 months to drop him from a 1st+2nd to not eve. Worth a 1st?
Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.
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Quoting: SGB88
Also no fit since he shoots left.


Soucy's preferred side is the right.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:19 p.m.
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I'm not overly attached to Oleksiak or anything, but I don't know what makes you think Bertuzzi would be the second biggest offensive threat in Seattle or that he would get to lead his own line. The Kraken have thrived on their ability to roll four lines, and guys like McCann, Schwartz, and Bjorkstrand have been good play drivers (and produced more than Bertuzzi thus far) while guys like Beniers and Tolvanen are still looking for their groove. Bertuzzi wouldn't get the chance to dominate his own line here, there are just too many capable forwards in Seattle for that to happen.

Honestly, the inclusion of Kartye makes this more of a deal breaker for me than Oleksiak. Kartye has earned rave reviews from every level of the Kraken organization, they clearly view him as someone who can contribute for years to come, even if he's not the flashiest player. He has more value to the Kraken than he does to every other NHL team, so I doubt he gets moved in a trade like this.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:21 p.m.
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Raj, these Trades all heavily favour TOR and No Team would accept
Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Rajvinder
Soucy's preferred side is the right.


First off not true, Cole has played more right than Soucy over the last several season, but neither has played much. You said something wrong so confidently... But it doesn't matter Tocchet is strict righty lefty and that's all there is to it.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Rajvinder
The idea that McCabe isn't worth a 1st is ludicrous. What happened in 6 months to drop him from a 1st+2nd to not eve. Worth a 1st?


He wasn't worth a 1st the first time. Shanahan likely forced that trade on Dubas
Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Rajvinder
The idea that McCabe isn't worth a 1st is ludicrous. What happened in 6 months to drop him from a 1st+2nd to not eve. Worth a 1st?


He's not being traded to Toronto, who was willing to overpay. That's what happened.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
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Quoting: SGB88
First off not true, Cole has played more right than Soucy over the last several season, but neither has played much. You said something wrong so confidently... But it doesn't matter Tocchet is strict righty lefty and that's all there is to it.


Ok bud, let's just go against his word, cause you know better.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 5:07 p.m.
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I'm not overly attached to Oleksiak or anything, but I don't know what makes you think Bertuzzi would be the second biggest offensive threat in Seattle or that he would get to lead his own line. The Kraken have thrived on their ability to roll four lines, and guys like McCann, Schwartz, and Bjorkstrand have been good play drivers (and produced more than Bertuzzi thus far) while guys like Beniers and Tolvanen are still looking for their groove. Bertuzzi wouldn't get the chance to dominate his own line here, there are just too many capable forwards in Seattle for that to happen.

Honestly, the inclusion of Kartye makes this more of a deal breaker for me than Oleksiak. Kartye has earned rave reviews from every level of the Kraken organization, they clearly view him as someone who can contribute for years to come, even if he's not the flashiest player. He has more value to the Kraken than he does to every other NHL team, so I doubt he gets moved in a trade like this.


Fair enough on Kartye, he's an AHLer in my eyes, keep him.

Not sure what you are talking about, last I checked Bertuzzi is the only person Seattle would have who was PPG in the playoffs and one of three to get 30 goals.

Saying he wouldn't lead a line there is completely absurd. Ignoring his time in Toronto this year where he has bounced up and down the lineup, he's outperformed everyone but McCann/Eberle comfortably.

He'd be a massive upgrade.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
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Timmins is decent but wouldn't move anything for him given his injury history. I'd rather keep Hathaway, especially if they'd have to use a RS spot on him. Value is fine, just doesn't fit the Flyers outlook.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 6:14 p.m.
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McCabe isn't waiving to Vancouver

Flames decline, it will be quite a few years before Weegar's deal starts to look bad

Brutal trade for Seattle
Nov. 4, 2023 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Rajvinder
Ok bud, let's just go against his word, cause you know better.

Sure, let's do that:
“I think it can be fluid here, but with every coach and even players, it’s a little easier to play the strong side,” noted Soucy. “And players know that. They can get comfortable on the off-side, but it’s always easier on the strong side.”

Also who cares what he says. Lots of wingers who get occassional looks at center might say they're better at center, and sure maybe they could be, it maybe you should look at how they've been deployed vs their own self evaluation.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
McCabe isn't waiving to Vancouver

Flames decline, it will be quite a few years before Weegar's deal starts to look bad

Brutal trade for Seattle


McCabe has a 7 team no trade list. It would be very surprising if Vancouver was on it.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.
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Timmins is decent but wouldn't move anything for him given his injury history. I'd rather keep Hathaway, especially if they'd have to use a RS spot on him. Value is fine, just doesn't fit the Flyers outlook.


You =/ an NHL GM. And for good reason.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
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Quoting: audiodave
He's not being traded to Toronto, who was willing to overpay. That's what happened.


This site is so interesting. When the leafs make a trade its always an overpay so they MUST be worth way less when they get moved. When a team buys a player from the leafs (like Sandin) it's always an overpay so when a similar player Lili wants to be moved it MUST be for way less.

When a player gets traded with a similar contract to a leafs target (Karlsson) then it was way underpriced so when they try to get Weegar they MUST pay 2x the price.

Great logic here. EVERY NHL GM is stupid and wrong, their trades make no sense, the real arbiter of true value in trades is audiodave and his merry band of capfriendly friends.

Honestly I don't know why we even have NHL GMs you should just be responsible for trades since you are the only one who knows anything about hockey.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
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Raj, these Trades all heavily favour TOR and No Team would accept


Our great KingofRnR returns to embarrass himself further. You ready to join Palhal on the banned list?
Nov. 4, 2023 at 7:12 p.m.
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Quoting: KrakenTheCode
I'm not overly attached to Oleksiak or anything, but I don't know what makes you think Bertuzzi would be the second biggest offensive threat in Seattle or that he would get to lead his own line. The Kraken have thrived on their ability to roll four lines, and guys like McCann, Schwartz, and Bjorkstrand have been good play drivers (and produced more than Bertuzzi thus far) while guys like Beniers and Tolvanen are still looking for their groove. Bertuzzi wouldn't get the chance to dominate his own line here, there are just too many capable forwards in Seattle for that to happen.

Honestly, the inclusion of Kartye makes this more of a deal breaker for me than Oleksiak. Kartye has earned rave reviews from every level of the Kraken organization, they clearly view him as someone who can contribute for years to come, even if he's not the flashiest player. He has more value to the Kraken than he does to every other NHL team, so I doubt he gets moved in a trade like this.


Great analysis. You must contribute more. I also think that allowing Kartye to stay with Seattle and to go down to the AHL makes more sense. Toronto should still do Bertuzzi for Oleksiak. That seems like a fair trade.

I think you are a bit off on the Bertuzzi potential he is a former 30g guy but this year has been bad. Bertuzzi for Oleksiak 1:1 seems fair.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 7:17 p.m.
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Our great KingofRnR returns to embarrass himself further. You ready to join Palhal on the banned list?

Sure, Whatever that means. Am I supposed to know you!?
Nov. 4, 2023 at 7:26 p.m.
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Quoting: fangm
This site is so interesting. When the leafs make a trade its always an overpay so they MUST be worth way less when they get moved. When a team buys a player from the leafs (like Sandin) it's always an overpay so when a similar player Lili wants to be moved it MUST be for way less.

When a player gets traded with a similar contract to a leafs target (Karlsson) then it was way underpriced so when they try to get Weegar they MUST pay 2x the price.

Great logic here. EVERY NHL GM is stupid and wrong, their trades make no sense, the real arbiter of true value in trades is audiodave and his merry band of capfriendly friends.

Honestly I don't know why we even have NHL GMs you should just be responsible for trades since you are the only one who knows anything about hockey.


Teams overpay at the trade deadline, it's not just Toronto. In this case Toronto was willing to overpay for McCabe because another first round playoff exit was not acceptable. Vancouver is in a very different position than Toronto was last season.
This site is all about us hockey fans expressing our opinions. If you can't handle someone else having a different opinion than yours maybe you should find something else to do.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 7:41 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Raj, these Trades all heavily favour TOR and No Team would accept


What do you think a fair return would be for Weegar.

He's a top 2D on a team likely about to blow it up signed at over $6M till he's 38.

Anyone who is buying him is getting 3/4 years of value then 4/5 years of a cap dump.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 7:56 p.m.
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You =/ an NHL GM. And for good reason.


25 years old with 66 career NHL games who was drafted 32nd overall. Flyers have Bonk and whoever they draft with their first rounder this year in the pipeline, in addition to Grans and Andrea. He might have value to some other team, but I'd rather have another dart board throw on an 17-18 year old versus someone in DY+6.
 
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