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What we could get for Jake from contending teams

Created by: Imagine874859
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 29, 2023
Published: Dec. 29, 2023
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Description
Not saying all these teams are interested in Jake. For some of these, picks or other pieces might have to be added to either side to even the trades out.
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Hayton, Barrett
  2. Lamoureux, Maveric
  3. 2024 1st round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Guentzel, Jake ($3,000,000 retained)
2.
PIT
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Lysell, Fabian
  3. 2025 1st round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
1. Guentzel, Jake
($3,000,000 retained)
3.
PIT
CAR
    1. Guentzel, Jake
    ($3,000,000 retained)
    4.
    PIT
    1. Ritchie, Calum [Reserve List]
    2. Wood, Miles
    3. 2024 1st round pick (COL)
    COL
      1. Guentzel, Jake
      ($3,000,000 retained)
      5.
      PIT
      1. Bourque, Mavrik
      2. Dellandrea, Ty
      3. 2024 1st round pick (DAL)
      DAL
        1. Guentzel, Jake
        ($3,000,000 retained)
        6.
        PIT
        1. Bourgault, Xavier
        2. McLeod, Ryan
        3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
        EDM
          1. Guentzel, Jake
          ($3,000,000 retained)
          7.
          PIT
          1. Luostarinen, Eetu
          2. Samoskevich, Mackie
          3. 2026 1st round pick (FLA)
          FLA
            1. Guentzel, Jake
            ($3,000,000 retained)
            8.
            PIT
            1. Arvidsson, Viktor
            2. Ziemmer, Koehn
            3. 2024 1st round pick (LAK)
            LAK
              1. Guentzel, Jake
              ($3,000,000 retained)
              9.
              PIT
              1. L'Heureux, Zachary
              2. Sissons, Colton
              3. 2024 1st round pick (NSH)
              NSH
                1. Guentzel, Jake
                ($3,000,000 retained)
                10.
                PIT
                1. Hämeenaho, Lenni [Reserve List]
                2. McLeod, Michael
                3. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
                NJD
                  1. Guentzel, Jake
                  ($3,000,000 retained)
                  11.
                  PIT
                  1. Dufour, William
                  2. Wahlstrom, Oliver
                  3. 2024 1st round pick (NYI)
                  NYI
                    1. Guentzel, Jake
                    ($3,000,000 retained)
                    12.
                    PIT
                    1. Goyette, David
                    2. Tolvanen, Eeli
                    3. 2024 1st round pick (SEA)
                    SEA
                      1. Guentzel, Jake
                      ($3,000,000 retained)
                      13.
                      PIT
                      1. Howard, Isaac [Reserve List]
                      2. Paul, Nicholas
                      3. 2026 1st round pick (TBL)
                      TBL
                        1. Guentzel, Jake
                        ($3,000,000 retained)
                        14.
                        PIT
                        1. Robertson, Nicholas
                        2. Voit, Ty
                        3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
                        TOR
                          1. Guentzel, Jake
                          ($3,000,000 retained)
                          15.
                          PIT
                          1. Höglander, Nils
                          2. Kudryavtsev, Kirill
                          3. 2025 1st round pick (VAN)
                          VAN
                            1. Guentzel, Jake
                            ($3,000,000 retained)
                            16.
                            PIT
                            1. Edstrom, David
                            2. Roy, Nicolas
                            3. 2024 1st round pick (VGK)
                            VGK
                              1. Guentzel, Jake
                              ($3,000,000 retained)
                              17.
                              PIT
                              1. Appleton, Mason
                              2. Lucius, Chaz
                              3. 2024 1st round pick (WPG)
                              WPG
                                1. Guentzel, Jake
                                ($3,000,000 retained)
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                                Left WingCentreRight Wing
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $8,700,000$8,700,000
                                C
                                NMC
                                UFA - 2
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $5,000,000$5,000,000
                                LW, RW
                                M-NTC
                                UFA - 2
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $6,100,000$6,100,000
                                C
                                NMC
                                UFA - 3
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $5,000,000$5,000,000
                                RW, LW
                                M-NTC
                                UFA - 5
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $925,000$925,000
                                LW
                                UFA - 2
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $2,450,000$2,450,000
                                C
                                UFA - 2
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $3,125,000$3,125,000
                                RW, C
                                NMC
                                UFA - 1
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $850,000$850,000
                                LW
                                UFA - 1
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $2,000,000$2,000,000
                                C, RW
                                M-NTC
                                UFA - 3
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $775,000$775,000
                                RW, LW
                                UFA - 1
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $775,000$775,000
                                LW, RW
                                UFA - 1
                                Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
                                $1,775,000$1,775,000
                                C, LW
                                RFA - 1
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $775,000$775,000
                                RW, LW
                                UFA - 1
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                                $2,500,000$2,500,000
                                LW
                                UFA - 6
                                Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
                                $4,820,000$4,820,000
                                C
                                UFA - 7
                                Logo of the Boston Bruins
                                $4,000,000$4,000,000
                                RW, LW
                                UFA - 1
                                Logo of the Florida Panthers
                                $1,500,000$1,500,000
                                LW, C
                                UFA - 1
                                Logo of the Dallas Stars
                                $894,167$894,167
                                C
                                RFA - 2
                                Logo of the Boston Bruins
                                $863,333$863,333
                                RW
                                RFA - 3
                                Logo of the Nashville Predators
                                $863,333$863,333
                                LW
                                RFA - 3
                                Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
                                $2,100,000$2,100,000
                                C
                                RFA - 2
                                Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
                                $860,000$860,000
                                RW
                                RFA - 3
                                Logo of the Seattle Kraken
                                $1,450,000$1,450,000
                                LW, RW
                                RFA - 1
                                Logo of the Nashville Predators
                                $2,857,143$2,857,143
                                C, RW
                                UFA - 3
                                Logo of the Dallas Stars
                                $900,000$900,000
                                RW
                                RFA - 1
                                Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
                                $796,667$796,667
                                LW, RW
                                RFA - 1
                                Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                $1,400,000$1,400,000
                                C
                                RFA - 1
                                Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
                                $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
                                RW
                                RFA - 2
                                Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
                                $800,556$800,556
                                LW
                                RFA - 3
                                Logo of the Seattle Kraken
                                $923,333$923,333 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
                                C
                                RFA - 3
                                Logo of the Florida Panthers
                                $925,000$925,000
                                RW
                                RFA - 2
                                Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
                                $1,100,000$1,100,000
                                LW, RW
                                RFA - 2
                                Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
                                $3,150,000$3,150,000
                                C, LW
                                NTC
                                UFA - 6
                                Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
                                $4,250,000$4,250,000
                                RW, LW
                                UFA - 1
                                Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
                                $950,000$950,000
                                C
                                RFA - 3
                                Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
                                $875,000$875,000
                                RW
                                RFA - 3
                                Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
                                $3,000,000$3,000,000
                                C, RW
                                UFA - 4
                                Logo of the New York Islanders
                                $859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
                                RW
                                RFA - 2
                                Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
                                $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
                                C
                                RFA - 3
                                Logo of the New York Islanders
                                $874,125$874,125
                                RW
                                RFA - 1
                                Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
                                $2,166,667$2,166,667
                                RW
                                UFA - 2
                                Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $4,500,000$4,500,000
                                LD
                                M-NTC
                                UFA - 6
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $10,000,000$10,000,000
                                RD
                                NMC
                                UFA - 4
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $5,375,000$5,375,000
                                G
                                M-NTC
                                UFA - 5
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $4,025,175$4,025,175
                                LD
                                M-NTC
                                UFA - 2
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $6,100,000$6,100,000
                                RD
                                NMC
                                UFA - 5
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $1,500,000$1,500,000
                                G
                                UFA - 1
                                Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
                                $918,333$918,333
                                RD
                                RFA - 3
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $800,000$800,000
                                RD
                                UFA - 1
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $825,000$825,000
                                LD
                                RFA - 1
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $775,000$775,000
                                LD
                                RFA - 2
                                Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
                                $850,000$850,000
                                LD
                                RFA - 3
                                ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $900,000$900,000
                                LW, RW
                                UFA - 2
                                Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                $5,125,000$5,125,000
                                RW, LW
                                NMC
                                UFA - 5

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                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.
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                                I don’t believe Boston is trading their first round pick this year nor do I believe they are going after a player of Guentzel’s caliber
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 2:36 p.m.
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                                Quoting: Celtics21
                                I don’t believe Boston is trading their first round pick this year nor do I believe they are going after a player of Guentzel’s caliber


                                Read description. I said "not all these teams are gonna be interested in Jake". This is just what wed be looking for value wise and asset wise, but I guess knowing that Bostin isnt interested helps me so I dont make ACGMs of him going to Boston lol
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 2:36 p.m.
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                                Leafs package is fair for sure. May be one of the weaker packages you listed. I would cry if we spent our 1st on another winger though. We need a dman for that package. Really hoping we keep Robertson as well. I really love his competitiveness.
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.
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                                Quoting: TMLBRIAN
                                Leafs package is fair for sure. May be one of the weaker packages you listed. I would cry if we spent our 1st on another winger though. We need a dman for that package. Really hoping we keep Robertson as well. I really love his competitiveness.


                                Yeah I think some are more valuable packages than the others. In the description I said that pieces could be added to either side to make it more fair so I dont get bashed in the comments from people saying "that trade sucks for so and so" lol. Thank you for your comments!
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                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.
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                                0 chance from Carolina, we would wait until july.
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 2:39 p.m.
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                                Quoting: Imagine874859
                                Yeah I think some are more valuable packages than the others. In the description I said that pieces could be added to either side to make it more fair so I dont get bashed in the comments from people saying "that trade sucks for so and so" lol. Thank you for your comments!


                                Pittsburgh will get a haul and a half for Guentzel. He will more than likely be the best offensive player available at the deadline. I believe they should sell him for sure.
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.
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                                They shouldn't even sell him. They're still contending and just two spots out of a playoff spot with games in hand . They have a winning record. Still 50 games left too.
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                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.
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                                Don’t think the Canucks would move Hoglander, but I could see them potentially moving Podkolzin in that type of deal. I only think they’d go after Guentzel if they move Kuzmenko though. And they’d likely move the 24 1st instead of the 25
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:01 p.m.
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                                Colorado passes on that. We need a 2C, not another wing, especially at THAT price.
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                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:04 p.m.
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                                Quoting: MajesticWalrus
                                They shouldn't even sell him. They're still contending and just two spots out of a playoff spot with games in hand . They have a winning record. Still 50 games left too.


                                Hes not gonna want to resign. We need to get the most of value we can from him before he walks. Hes not taking a discount to stay here especially with how the team has played the past few years.
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                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:05 p.m.
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                                Quoting: Android_H_Jones
                                Colorado passes on that. We need a 2C, not another wing, especially at THAT price.


                                I dont know what you mean by "especially at THAT price". That's a more than fair offer for a top 10 winger in the league.
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:07 p.m.
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                                Quoting: mv21227
                                Don’t think the Canucks would move Hoglander, but I could see them potentially moving Podkolzin in that type of deal. I only think they’d go after Guentzel if they move Kuzmenko though. And they’d likely move the 24 1st instead of the 25


                                I meant to put 24 1st but I accidently made 2 mocks of vancouver and reverted the first one which had the 24 1st. I wouldnt mind Podkolzin over Hoglander if he can turn it around.
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.
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                                Wow these are bad. Like, Flames fans with Lindholm bad.
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:12 p.m.
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                                Quoting: evelutions2
                                Wow these are bad. Like, Flames fans with Lindholm bad.


                                Yeah sure. Were talking about a top 10 winger here. If hes traded I'm sure an extension would have to be worked out as well but hes not gonna come cheap.
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:16 p.m.
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                                Quoting: Imagine874859
                                I dont know what you mean by "especially at THAT price". That's a more than fair offer for a top 10 winger in the league.


                                If the Avs trade that for Guentzel, they are pretty much f*ck*d when it comes to adding a 2C. I am a fan of the player, but he'd be rental with the Avs. That's too much to add at a position they don't need to when they have areas they do need to address.
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                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:18 p.m.
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                                Quoting: Android_H_Jones
                                If the Avs trade that for Guentzel, they are pretty much f*ck*d when it comes to adding a 2C. I am a fan of the player, but he'd be rental with the Avs. That's too much to add at a position they don't need to when they have areas they do need to address.


                                Did you read the description?
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:56 p.m.
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                                Quoting: Imagine874859
                                Hes not gonna want to resign. We need to get the most of value we can from him before he walks. Hes not taking a discount to stay here especially with how the team has played the past few years.


                                I think he could. These deals are what we should hope to get at minimum for him. At the same time though, they shouldn't get rid of him.
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.
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                                Quoting: Imagine874859
                                Yeah sure. Were talking about a top 10 winger here. If hes traded I'm sure an extension would have to be worked out as well but hes not gonna come cheap.


                                A top 10 winger who's probably going to want like $9m+ and the contract starts when he's 30
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.
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                                I like the Dallas and Arizona trades
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                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:15 p.m.
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                                Quoting: MajesticWalrus
                                They shouldn't even sell him. They're still contending and just two spots out of a playoff spot with games in hand . They have a winning record. Still 50 games left too.


                                I think we wait and see how the standings look end of January, but with a rebuild being likely a year or two away this might be too good of an opportunity to pass up even if we are in contention. Especially since it's looking like he won't re-sign
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                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.
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                                C’mon why would the Canes do this?
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:27 p.m.
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                                Dreaming
                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:29 p.m.
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                                Avs won't be likely to have interest in Guentzel as he isn't a C.
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                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 5:23 p.m.
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                                Avs pass
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                                Dec. 29, 2023 at 10:30 p.m.
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                                Quoting: pensfan21
                                I like the Dallas and Arizona trades


                                Can’t see Dallas being in the market for a forward. Stars top-9 is already pretty set. Bourque has really climbed into the “not available” tier with Stankoven & I don’t see the Stars entertaining any offer with him in it that doesn’t include a true top-4 RD coming back the other way.
                                 
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