You might convince Verbeek to move from 3-7 if they guy he wanted at 3 is gone and the next guy he wants is still going to be available at 7, but I don't think there's anyway to convince him to move down 20+ spots.

I'd be shocked if the Sens moved their 1st this year for anything other than instant, young, long-term help (of the David Jiricek persuasion, for example). After the season they're having, Staios has gotta give fans something. sitting through another season like this only to not end up even using that good draft pick AGAIN would cause riots lmao

Easily decline for the jackets. I think they would drop down from 4 to 7 if you throw in a late first though

No chance for ANA. If MTL wants to move up, maybe. But that’s gotta at least include MTL’s own ‘24 1st. No way we’re punting a big piece of that trade to ‘25

I think you're right. Montreal will need to include their 2024 1st round pick to move up in the draft.

Yeah - I figure that trading back is much more realistic that trading out of the top 10.

Likely the pick from the Monahan trade could be interesting for CLB (and add a prospect).

I would think CLB would give serious consideration to passing on Lindstrom or Eiserman for the right package, since they might want defencemen. If the draft went:
1. Celebrini
2. Levshunov/Demidov
3. Demidov/Levshunov
4. Lindstrom/Eiserman (in CLB's slot)

That leaves CLB with one of Dickinson, (Eiserman or Lindstrom), Parekh, Buium or Silayev to pick from at #7 (after Minnesota and Ottawa picks one of those guys or Helenius or Catton).

If their scouts sees theses guys at an equal level - might not hurt to get extra assets to end up with some guy you already want.

Why bother? One or more of Lindstrom, Demidov, Eiserman, Helenius and Catton should be available when the Habs select, the cost to move up is just too much IMO

BUT:
Lindstrom, Demidov or Eiserman >>>> Helenius and Catton.

So the price might be worth it to secure a top line forward rather than a top 6 guy again. We have plenty of assets who will be competing for that top 6... but none for that top line role.

Could you imagine the habs' top 6 with one of Lindstrom, Demidov or Eiserman?

Slaf - Lindstrom - Dach : would be a BEAST line.

Demidov - Dach - Slaf

Demidov -Suzuki - Caufield

Eiserman - Dach - Slaf

I think Canucks might take this deal.

MTL is drafting 5th. MIN and OTT won't finish the season lower than MTL.

google NHL draft value chart. The usual price to move from 7 to 5OA is a 5th round pick . What you are suggesting is out in left field

I get what you are saying but the cost to move from 7th to 4th is gonna be the 7th pick and like Hutson which imo is too much

It is funny (to me) to see the difference in opinion between the "PeterStone" comment and then the "Campabee" comment immediately below it (and both are Canadiens' fans who are talking about the Habs!). Just goes to show how much opinions can differ. I tend to think that no team drops from #5 to #7 in the draft for anything less than a later first round pick being included, but I have not researched the statistics on that one. I can say that i do not recall teams moving back in the draft for minor pickups like a fifth round pick.

I think if Montreal traded whatever they might get for Monahan at the trade deadline plus another prospect or 2 (like Farrell or Struble) they might be able to jump a couple of spaces in this year's draft if the other team has multiple players on its wish list.

Lol exactly !

I hope so!

I agree with you. Columbus is probably the most likely to be willing to trade down among the likely top 6 because their target is almost certainly D, but there's the heavy caveat that it'll probably be a new GM making these decisions and we don't know who that will be.

Nah -he's probably a Bergevin-type-move away from being fired. He did manage to attrach big names to the team - got a lot of assets in trades.

You can't blame him if some players are underperforming! Y'all have great prospect in your pool.

The cost of moving from 7 to 5 on all three draft-pick-value charts I have is pick 53 (2016 chart), pick 61 (2018 chart) and pick 48 (2022 chart).

The MOST that the first pick in the 5th round moves you up two slots is from pick 52 to pick 50.

Yeah the bay area market is not where Mailloux is going to end up. SJ org would not insult is female season ticket holders by trading for him

Looking at The Athletic's pick value chart, pick 5 is 8.2 GSVA and pick 7 is 7.1 GSVA, so the gap is 1.1 GSVA. Picks 61-64 all carry a 1.1 GSVA value. I've also noticed when looking at trades, the team moving up seems to pay a bit more than The Athletic's chart suggests (for instance, the Coyotes traded up to pick 11 a couple years back and it cost them 27, 34, and 45 which was a surplus of 1.8 GSVA, or the value of pick 45). A 5th round pick is worth 0.2 to 0.3 GSVA.

Thanks for correcting me. I probably misread the chart but the point is its not 3 first picks to move 2 spots. That's a ludicrous offer and a terrible misuse of assets. On top of that i dont see a difference in picks 2 to 10 in this years draft

as i said below ...
Thanks for correcting me. I probably misread the chart but the point is its not 3 first picks to move 2 spots. That's a ludicrous offer and a terrible misuse of assets. On top of that i dont see a difference in picks 2 to 10 in this years draft

If you look closely - MTL doesnt send back it's first in the proposal.

Mailloux, 2024 VAN(or whatever team we trade Monahan for ) and 2025 first. 3 firsts. AND you trade Owen Beck high 2nd. This is a massive overpayment for marginal benefit