Would Hugues play for Zegras

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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 10, 2024

Published: Feb. 10, 2024

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ANA fans won't like this, but that's the only play I would give to ANA for Zegras. I don't see how ANA are over asking for a player they seem to have given up the towel on at 22 years old. If the argument of a rebuild comes in, I'll just respond with a "he's 22... you rebuild with young players... so..." I think it's the attitude, I don't see Hugues overpaying for Zegras.

I'm guessing another team will want to over pay, maybe Philly who got crapped on by a freaking 0 games played player. They may over pay at this point.

**Some may see my move to bring in Reinbacher, even if he's in Europe right now, the reason I put him there is that there are talks they may bring him in as soon as his season ends in order to develop him properly in MTL or Laval. - Most probably in Laval, but you never know.. His size may make him jump now to see his current skills.

***Avs Fans, before you judge the Girard move, read the trade info, I think the AVS would look to get another hard hitting defensman with the room they just got from the Habs, plus the ability to trade out their own 2nd pick again. They have lots of players becoming UFAs again this year, and trading out 5M$ vs 1.925M$ gives them more room to get going for another cup run next year.

Trades

MTL

Zegras, Trevor

Additional Details:

ANA seem ready to move from Zegras; Is this enough? I thin other teams will be playing this out, but given they receive 2 RHD, Beck and picks plus Pearson to help end the season with support for the younger guys. I think this would be the only available play for a player who's not been up to par with his attitude and defensive skills.

ANA

Beck, Owen
Harris, Jordan
Kovacevic, Johnathan
Pearson, Tanner
2024 1st round pick (MTL)
2024 3rd round pick (MIN)

Additional Details:

*1st is a conditional pick; If Habs get top 5; then ANA have the choice of the best of the two 2025 1st rounds picks they have, plus PITT's 2025 2nd round pick

MTL

Additional Details:

AVS trade out Girard and his cap hit, with Beaucage but get in return their own 2nd draft pick and Allen with retention.

This also bring in another move from AVS to trade for a bigger Defenseman somewhere else, get a very reliable 2nd goalie for this year, and a posssible chip in the offseason to trade out if they wish.

COL

Allen, Jake ($1,925,000 retained)
2024 2nd round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

Habs get a home player, and a home prospect; for Allen and a 2nd pick.

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (50%)
Jeff Petry: $2,343,750 (50%)
Jake Allen: $1,925,000 (100%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$82,183,749	$1,170,000	$5,252,500	$1,316,251

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Newhook, Alex $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW RFA - 4	Zegras, Trevor $5,750,000$5,750,000 C, LW RFA - 3	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2	Gignac, Brandon $775,000$775,000 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Girard, Samuel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Primeau, Cayden $890,000$890,000 G RFA - 2
Struble, Jayden $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) LD RFA - 2	Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Reinbacher, David $950,000$950,000 ($1,000,000$1M) RD RFA - 3	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Ylönen, Jesse $775,000$775,000 RW, LW RFA - 1	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3
Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Feb. 10 at 9:06 p.m.

MoSeider53

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Anaheim declines, Only the 1st has value the rest of it you can keep.

Feb. 10 at 9:06 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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We Anaheim guys have never asked for more than Owen Beck plus your 2024 first assuming that you want to trade it (see your esteemed cohort @Campabee for the somewhat complicated conditions). This is a trade that could only happen at the draft because it would be contingent upon who was available to both Anaheim and Montreal. For example, we assume that the Canadiens wouldn't want to trade the pick if Demidov were still on the board.

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Feb. 10 at 9:11 p.m.

Black61

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Habs easily pass on that holy.

They are not giving up their top 10 pick for him.

Feb. 10 at 9:20 p.m.

MoSeider53

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Quoting: Black61

Habs easily pass on that holy.

They are not giving up their top 10 pick for him.

No Problemo, Then Zegres will never play in Montreal.

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Feb. 10 at 9:23 p.m.

Black61

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Quoting: MoSeider53

No Problemo, Then Zegres will never play in Montreal.

Great I dont want him too.

Feb. 10 at 9:24 p.m.

MoSeider53

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Quoting: Black61

Great I dont want him too.

A massive rebuilding team like Montreal, Shouldn't be trading for players like Zegras. just stay the course.

Feb. 10 at 9:24 p.m.

Just_A_Guess

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

We Anaheim guys have never asked for more than Owen Beck plus your 2024 first assuming that you want to trade it (see your esteemed cohort Campabee for the somewhat complicated conditions). This is a trade that could only happen at the draft because it would be contingent upon who was available to both Anaheim and Montreal. For example, we assume that the Canadiens wouldn't want to trade the pick if Demidov were still on the board.

Would you still consider if it was the WPG first instead of Beck? Let's assume the WPG pick is 25 or later. Just curious.

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Feb. 10 at 9:28 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Just_A_Guess

Would you still consider if it was the WPG first instead of Beck? Let's assume the WPG pick is 25 or later. Just curious.

Oh, I think so. Four picks in the top 35? Yeah.

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Feb. 10 at 9:31 p.m.

Just_A_Guess

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Oh, I think so. Four picks in the top 35? Yeah.

Personally, I'd rather move that pick over moving Beck.

Zegras, CGY '25 1st with conditions, WPG '27 3rd with conditions for MTL '24 1st with conditions... Now that's asset management lol

Feb. 10 at 9:31 p.m.

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GiggywithGibby

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Where is the evidence we've thrown the towel in on him? Frank Seravalli is the source of all Zegras rumors, and the guy has the same track record of being right about Anaheim as I do scoring with Victoria's Secret models.

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Feb. 10 at 9:32 p.m.

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GiggywithGibby

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Quoting: Just_A_Guess

Personally, I'd rather move that pick over moving Beck.

Zegras, CGY '25 1st with conditions, WPG '27 3rd with conditions for MTL '24 1st with conditions... Now that's asset management lol

No conditions, it would be a draft day trade.

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Feb. 10 at 9:32 p.m.

#12

Just_A_Guess

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

No conditions, it would be a draft day pick.

I know, but it's based on who is available to draft.

Feb. 10 at 9:38 p.m.

#13

Black61

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Quoting: MoSeider53

A massive rebuilding team like Montreal, Shouldn't be trading for players like Zegras. just stay the course.

https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1744842893913653570?lang=en

Using a top 10 pick on a replacement level defense player whos never had 70 point seems like a bad investment.

He is always going to be a guy who you cant rely on as a top line player because he cant play against other teams best lines. He will and already does get destroyed.

Atleast with somepne like Catton or helenius even if they they end up as a 50ish point guy they can atleast be versatile enough to not have to shelter like crazy

Feb. 10 at 9:48 p.m.

#14

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Black61

Using a top 10 pick on a replacement level defense player whos never had 70 point seems like a bad investment.

I always wondered why Cole Caufield fell to #15 after Trevor Zegras was selected ninth.

At least after this season, you can finally say CC has achieved the 60-point mark.

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Feb. 10 at 10:00 p.m.

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Quoting: Black61

So would you not use a top 10 pick on Caufield? Because he’s replacement level defensively and has never had a 70 point season. Hasn’t even had a 50 point season (although he likely will this year)

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Feb. 10 at 11:08 p.m.

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Black61

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Quoting: mv21227

Caufields defensive metrics have improved significantly this season hes not replacement level anymore.

Caufield wasnt a top 10 pick.

Even if he was still that bad defensively doesnt that prove how stupid to suggest spending a top 10 pick on ANOTHER defensive black hole.

Feb. 10 at 11:18 p.m.

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VladislavTretiak

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Wondering why Drysdale was traded to PHI and not Zegras

Just my 2 cents

Feb. 10 at 11:20 p.m.

#18

Xqb15a

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You are smoking some serious weed with that COL trade no sane team trades a 25yr old top 4 dman locked in for 3 more seasons for a back up goalie.

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Feb. 10 at 11:22 p.m.

#19

Xqb15a

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Quoting: VladislavTretiak

Wondering why Drysdale was traded to PHI and not Zegras

Just my 2 cents

Because PHI was looking for a young dman, they supposedly asked COL for Byram and COL said you are adding and that ended it.

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Feb. 10 at 11:53 p.m.

#20

turtlemountain

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Avs trade their third best defenseman and a mediocre prospect for a backup goalie and a 2nd.

Help me understand this?

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Feb. 11 at 3:25 a.m.

#21

LaTornade

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Imo Girard is easily the Avs 3rd best D atm. He’s not someone you move to free up cap for a backup goalie and depth pieces (appreciate your explanation though) Hell, i would be more inclined to move Byram than Girard at this point (not saying that i would like to trade either).

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Feb. 11 at 9:20 a.m.

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NMAvsFan

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Quoting: Xqb15a

You are smoking some serious weed with that COL trade no sane team trades a 25yr old top 4 dman locked in for 3 more seasons for a back up goalie.

There's some dillweed posting things around here claiming that Girard sucks and the Avs are trying to trade him and he has no value so, yeah, there are still people who think Girard is nothing more than a small, puck-moving D that isn't any good.

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Feb. 11 at 9:49 a.m.

#23

Xqb15a

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Quoting: NMAvsFan

But what cracks me up is that these guys do these trades on the basis he isn’t good then when they build their rosters they drop him right into the top 4🤦🏻‍♂️

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Feb. 11 at 11:56 a.m.

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Quoting: Xqb15a

But what cracks me up is that these guys do these trades on the basis he isn’t good then when they build their rosters they drop him right into the top 4🤦🏻‍♂️

It’s a roster with Savard on the top pairing. Top 4 isn’t saying much

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Feb. 11 at 8:47 p.m.

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Easy peasy nope from the Avs. Not even close.

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