Exactly, being pressured into a trade never turns out well(Karlsson trade), signing him is the best option

I want to see how this post progresses. I can VERY easily make the counter argument. Nylander holds all the cards. Maybe the contract is more of a respect thing than the actual money. He may just want to get paid like...as you put it... "a top 10 RW" Did he grow up a rich kid? I honestly don't know. He might be perfectly content sitting out the whole year! I can tell you that if I were a TOR fan and I had a chance to win the cup...and DIDN'T...I'd be blaming Dubas 10,000%. I'm not blaming a guy that can get hit and lose his career. It's not likely, but it's happened before.

1. Top 10 RW is very generous
2. A top Defencemen is much more valuable and rare than a Top winger.

Well said!

Players work their entire life to make to the NHL. Once it finally comes time to sign a contract they want to get paid what they believe they're worth and they want job security in case of injury!

Just look at how Sakic handled Duchene, he sat on that for a long time and hit a huge homerun by trading him to a desperate GM who was willing to massively overpay. Sit on Nylander under he either breaks and signs a deal that will keep him in Blue and White or wait till a desperate GM who's team can't score needs to make a move to save his job, then sell super high on Nylander.

But until then, just keep not trading.

Karlsson trade is working out actually!

Only reason it was a overpay is because of that high 1st round pick! No one could've have predicted that the sens would have fell of a cliffs after that trade

LOL i spamming this AGM post..... My bad

Which of these RWers is Nylander ahead of to be top 10?

Kucherov
Laine
Kane
Pastrnak
Wheeler
Tarasenko
Marner
Draisaitl
Rantanen
Stone

There are name I left off

I agree with you on this post. They were 1 game away from the Stanley Cups Finals. Who knew they'd turn sooo south sooo fast. Not 100% sure i agree with you on the Karlsson working out in San Jose part though.

i would agree top 10 is generous
Patrick Kane
Jakub Voracek
Phil Kessel
Mark Stone
David Pastrnak
Blake Wheeler
Nikita Kucherov
Patrik Laine
Mitchell Marner
Mikko Rantanen
Alexander Radulov
Brock Boeser

yes some are close maybe not quite as good but very close.

I agree with everything you said except your top 10 part btw. No rush to trade him

Here is the list

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/definitive-ranking-nhls-top-20-right-wingers-three-seasons/sn-amp/

I'd place more blame if he made a panic move and trades Nylander for less than he's worth.

Agree with your overall message. Yet, Manson is a more than capable top pairing RHD. Crazy good defenaive numbers.

Thats leafsnet

Sure, I won't fight any of that.

That being said, if the only defensive options available for Nylander are guys like Pesce and Muzzin, then I'm not buying. Those guys are far from top defenceman, they are decent middle pairing guys, they aren't worth Nylander and trading him for a worse player because people say they "NEED" to upgrade the D is a bad move.

Draisaitl is apparently a centre.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/definitive-ranking-nhls-top-20-right-wingers-three-seasons/

Judging off your last agm with the Manson trade it appears you undervalue Dmen and overvalue a 60 point RW, not saying Nylander has low value but saying it'd be selling low if you got a Pesche, Manson (Saying a top pair shutdown Dman that can get 30-40 points isn't top is crazy to me), etc is off base, also Nylander is not a top 10 RW (Rantanen, Kane, Stone, Marner, Kuch, Pastrnak, Tarasenko, Wheeler, Kessel, Draisaitl) are all better than Nylander and I'm sure I missed some as I stopped at 10. Add on the fact that Nylander isn't signed so his value is lower than it would be otherwise.

Now I agree with that fact that TOR shouldn't force a trade for the sake of it, as Nylander is a valuable asset and selling low is never a good idea. I'm interested to see how it all works out though

I saw it coming from miles away, Duchene is a bad attitude whiner who points the finger and everyone else when things get hard and gives up. I thought Ottawa played way over their heads the year they went to the cup and it would even out and it did. A rebuild is good for them, they need to rebuild an identity.

I hear what you're saying, but there is zero doubt that come November 29th/30th...there will be a moment in time where Dubas will know for CERTAIN whether he's going to have Nylander for this year or not. Come December 1st Dubas will either have Nylander...a trade...or nothing. If he signs GREAT! everyone's happy no need for the post. If you don't (which is why Nylander holds the cards)...then how do you plan for a Stanley Cup run? You get pieces that will show up and help a Cup Run.

That may be, I won't disagree with him being really good, I actually think he's the best of the ones people have been trading to the Leafs, but he's more of a secondary guy on a top pairing, which is perfect for the Leafs since Rielly is a stud #1, but has a 3 tonne anchor as a partner.

You can't judge the trade outcome just yet, but it's undeniable that the sens could have got more in return for him, or more quality in their return

His dad was an NHLer, he didn't just grow up rich, he grew up filthy rich. Just saying.

Its actually why a lot of people thought he was very cocky and he slipped to 8th overall. He was projected to go top 5.

It would be a bold move but Dubas could just say, fine, sit a year and we'll talk in the summer. Nylander can't play in the NHL unless Toronto signs him or trades him. That hurts Nylander's career, and I honestly think he really wants to play in TO, and TO wants him. Judging by how they are playing they don't need him per say to be good but he'd be a massive boost to the team, imagine how amazing their offence will be with him and Matthews in the lineup.