Those contract are not tho

Which way?
Mitz hasn't proven he should get more than this and Pietro is a step below the doughty and Karlsson marks which puts him in the 9's ish.

I think he gets close to 10 on the open market. He's won a cup, a GM like Dubas already overpays for players, and I'm sure that's a very valid reason for him to overpay for another.

Dubas only overpays young stars. He has a good track record with everyone else - including UFA stars.
And it would require a small discount (a la JT) on Piets part to come home as we cannot afford to go much higher (cap depending ofc).

Uh, Patrick Marleau?

Lou Lamoriello

Thanks for the correction, still can't see Pietro signing for that cheap, especially with STL preparing for him to walk with the Faulk acquisition. And they would've have the space to extend him at 9 without extending Faulk.

Maybe they really like Faulk? More likely is that they have an internal thing going on. Remember how they traded Shatt, Oshie, etc? They could afford to re-sign them but they chose not to because they would rather pay someone else.

Maybe he would take 9 x 7, but for a 5 year term he’s getting 10 mill AAV

Yes, but their captain? A team names a captain that they envision being with the team for a long time. The Tavares situation was different because NYI tried to keep him, but he wanted no part of it. STL seemingly wants nothing to do with Pietrangelo. You're right, it must be something internal.

Maybe. I think the way the NHL pays UFA's is starting to change and that 5 year UFA deals at high hits will be the norm (to avoid the horror show that some of those long term deals became).
Ideally this deal is only 3 years but I don't think the NHL will change fast enough for him to take a deal around this hit for fewer than 5 years.

Remember the ageing curve friend.
A players prime ends at 30, so he will likely be declining the entire duration of this deal.

Backes?
And JT very much wanted part of it. All sources say it was a last minute decision to go with the Leafs. He was an Islander until the last possible moment. Thank you (looks up agents name).

Then this is the last year of Tavares' prime and Toronto still has 5 years, 11mil per, of NMC left??

Pretty much. On average he will start to decline around 30 ish. That is not to say he will - some players seem to go forever but all research shows 23-27 are the best years with 30 being the start of the decline.

To be clear, when I say decline I don't mean they just start sucking, rather they simply aren't at their peak form anymore.

There was some mention on social media, may have been from one of The Athletic writers, that the Blues intend to use Faulk as a top-4 D, as with Parayko and Pietro ahead of him, the Blues are looking to move one of those 2 guys. I am assuming that they deal the older of the 2, and the player with only 1 year remaining on his deal. So, if Pietro is available, do the Leafs try to make a deal? I am not sure the Leafs have a deep enough prospect system to handle such a deal. Without include Robertson, Sadin, or Woll, which in my opinion, are the only untouchable prospects, it would probably take Liljegren, Bracco, Ceci (for cap reasons) and a 1st or 2nd round pick to even get the Blues attention. Problem is, Liljegren is borderline NHL ready as it is, and without the Leafs working out an extension with Pietro ahead of time, this deal, or any deal the Leafs could possibly make to obtain him, seems like overpayment simply for 1 season. I will note, as a counter-argument, Dubas brought in 1-year of Barrie with the clear understanding the Leafs may very well not be able to sign him. So, perhaps this team is going for it. Pietro and Rielly would make a great top pairing. Add Muzzin-Barrie and Dermott/Sandin/Liljegren, and you got yourself a pretty fierce D.

I mean if there is an extension then Lilypad becomes expendable so I'd offer that package you did. That being said I'd offer a 1st + at the deadline if they are looking to move him then. I doubt it but if he is available I expect Doobie will be all over it. FA is still the better course to take imo (since Doobie seems to be good at getting UFA's and roleplayers to buy in) but i'd be fine with piet this year lol.

It's my understanding teams can only protect 3D under contract for 21-22 who have 40 games in prior. Given that your proposed team is 20-21 (qualifying 40), by my reckoning, you'd be exposing one or maybe 2 'quality D' to Seattle. This very smart? In 21-22 wouldn't you ideally prefer to protect 3 best D + carry 3 in their Contract Year One (without qualfying prior 40)? In short, is this deal really worth all the mental effort?

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Why deal for him when you can get him for cash if you wait a year?

Is it possible? Probably. Is it a good idea? No. Leafs chose to go for a top heavy team and overpay their young players. There's no room for another large UFA contract now. And Pietro can't play 30 minutes a game for the next three years. Even if one winger leaves next year, which seems unavoidable, it should be a trade for an affordable rhd option.

Trade during the season seems even less likely with Ceci and Barrie already on board.

Dude the NHL is talking about an 84.5 cap and I proved this can sort of work with 82.5. we can afford it lol

Every year I say these 30 year old players will stop getting insane deals with term and every year some idiot GM signs one to a huge contract and it looks bad in 2-3 years or less. Giving Pietrangelo 10 million would be a fools errand but you are probably right, someone will pay him that. It just won't be Dubas. He understands people get worse in their 30's and giving someone a huge contract for their glory years that are past is stupid.

The Leafs would have to move out cap from their forwards In order to sign Pietrangelo or even to trade for an upper end Dman. Sure they can do it. But do the Leafs want to continue to overpay their top forwards, and signing Pietrangelo will involve overpaying in salary and term.

Because they are bidding against as many as 30 other teams, some of which have significantly more cap room than the Leafs. Plus, Barrie may not be a Leaf next season, and you'd think having them both on the team at the same time, along with Muzzin, another upcoming UFA, would be a huge positive for their back end.

not really. the leafs would need to move one (or two) of kapenen/kerfoot/johnsson in order to even think about making it work.

i don't think pietrangelo is the type of player that the leafs should be perusing, mainly due to that he's likely looking for a significant contract with a long term. sure, toronto is not a stranger to opening their wallet to key players but besides tavares, the guys they've signed to major contracts are all players who are still entering their prime years, whereas pietrangelo is going to be 30 and trailing off.