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Cup contender with realistic moves

Created by: keidongiles
Initial Creation Date: Sep 8, 2020
Published: Sep 8, 2020 at 8:47
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Evans, Jake2$800,000
Juulsen, Noah2$800,000
Ouellet, Xavier2$800,000
Sergachev, Mikhail6$6,500,000
Domi, Max6$6,000,000
Mete, Victor2$1,200,000
Mantha, Anthony6$7,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Thompson, Nate1$1,000,000
Granlund, Mikael3$3,000,000
Maroon, Patrick1$1,500,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Sergachev, Mikhail$7,800,000
2021 1st round pick
2021 2nd round pick
2021 3rd round pick
Trades
MTL
  1. 2021 1st round pick (CGY)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Tatar, Tomas
Additional Details:
Tatar signs an extension with Calgary after they traded Gaudreau.
MTL
  1. 2020 5th round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Lindgren, Charlie
MTL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (CBJ)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Byron, Paul
Additional Details:
Ottawa has a ton of picks and will get a lot more so they gave up the picks for Byron's leadership and 20 goals thats he can bring.
MTL
  1. Mantha, Anthony [RFA Rights]
DET
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. Domi, Max
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
Mantha did not want to be part of the rebuild in Detroit. They get a replacement player in Domi who can put up 60+ points in a top 6 role, Kulak to help their d core, and a pick to help the rebuild.
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
STL
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
MTL
FLA
STL
MTL
OTT
2021
CGY
CBJ
OTT
CHI
MTL
STL
VGK
MTL
OTT
PHI
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,847,976$0$3,987,500$5,652,024

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
Mantha, Anthony
$7,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Granlund, Mikael
$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Maroon, Patrick
$1,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Evans, Jake
$800,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Sergachev, Mikhail
$6,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
MTL
Allen, Jake
$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
$894,167
LD/RD
RFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
$1,200,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
MTL
Ouellet, Xavier
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Drouin, J.
Armia, J.
, .
Suzuki, N.
Sergachev, M.
Power Play 2
Granlund, M.
Gallagher, B.
Kotkaniemi, J.
Weber, S.
Petry, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Danault, P.
Lehkonen, A.
Chiarot, B.
Weber, S.
Penalty Kill 2
Poehling, R.
Evans, J.
Romanov, A.
Petry, J.

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Sep 8, 2020 at 8:52
#1
Ferda
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I agree Ottawa has picks to burn but a 2nd and a 3rd for Byron is too much. They arent just gonna give picks away. I think someone gives granland a better deal. If the markets that dry he probably signs a 1 year deal.
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Sep 8, 2020 at 8:53
#2
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Interesting. I think that’s actually a very good offer for mantha but would understand if they would prefer just to keep.
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Sep 8, 2020 at 8:54
#3
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When did Mantha ever say he didn’t want to be a part of Detroit’s rebuild. He just bought a house in Detroit and there’s been rumours of him being very close to a 5-year extension.
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Sep 8, 2020 at 8:56
#4
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Why would Ottawa give up multiple high picks for an overpaid, old 4th liner with term left? If we want a veteran we'll get paid to take a cap dump or sign a free agent, if we trade our draft capitol it'll be for a young piece that can contribute to our future, not to help your cap situation
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Sep 8, 2020 at 9:00
#5
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Alfie11
Why would Ottawa give up multiple high picks for an overpaid, old 4th liner with term left? If we want a veteran we'll get paid to take a cap dump or sign a free agent, if we trade our draft capitol it'll be for a young piece that can contribute to our future, not to help your cap situation


Byron is a 20+ goal scorer, not a fourth liner.
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:00
#6
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Where'd you get the idea mantha doesn't want to be apart of the rebuild. Also still wouldn't get you mantha
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Sep 8, 2020 at 9:00
#7
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Why is Calgary downgrading from Guadreau to Tatar?
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Sep 8, 2020 at 9:02
#8
Thread Starter
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Quoting: redwingsfan04
When did Mantha ever say he didn’t want to be a part of Detroit’s rebuild. He just bought a house in Detroit and there’s been rumours of him being very close to a 5-year extension.


Yea, I think he stays in Detroit. I only said he doesn't want to be there because that's most likely the only way he gets moved.
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:04
#9
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Quoting: keidongiles
Byron is a 20+ goal scorer, not a fourth liner.


Sorry, it's 2020. Byron had 4 goals, 10 points in 29 games. At age 31, he appears to be declining. Ottawa doesn't want the term on his 3.1m deal either
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:04
#10
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Why is Calgary downgrading from Guadreau to Tatar?


Calgary would get a huge return for Gaudreau that consists of current and future assets, Tatar is just to add depth to the top 6, not to replace Gaudeau.
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:05
#11
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Quoting: Yzerplan_forthewin
Where'd you get the idea mantha doesn't want to be apart of the rebuild. Also still wouldn't get you mantha


Just a 'what if' scenario as he most likely stays if he wants to.
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Sep 8, 2020 at 9:07
#12
Buffbry
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Wings counter with fabbri for suzuki, primeau and a first round pick
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:07
#13
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Quoting: keidongiles
Byron is a 20+ goal scorer, not a fourth liner.

He was on pace for a whopping 11 this year and Montreal, notably lacking true starpower on the wings, has at least 6 better wingers than him. Even on a rebuilding Ottawa I wouldn't play him more than Duclair, Brown, Formenton, Tkachuk, Batherson, or Ryan next year for starters (I would honestly rather give guys like Balcers and Abramov a shot over him as well) so yeah, he's pretty much a 4th liner. Not worth more than a late pick. For that contract, probably negative value.
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:10
#14
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Quoting: buffbry
Wings counter with fabbri for suzuki, primeau and a first round pick


You under-value Domi. Mantha in a first line role was on pace for 30 goals and 75 points this year, Domi had 28 goals 72 points in a top 6 role in Montreal.
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:28
#15
arky
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Edited Sep 8, 2020 at 9:34
Quoting: keidongiles
Yea, I think he stays in Detroit. I only said he doesn't want to be there because that's most likely the only way he gets moved.


Quoting: keidongiles
You under-value Domi. Mantha in a first line role was on pace for 30 goals and 75 points this year, Domi had 28 goals 72 points in a top 6 role in Montreal.


1st off Mantha is a power forward and Domi is a slower smallish winger.

Again the problem is it helps Montreal because of the glut of centers and lack of wingers. Wings need centers and wingers so they fill one hole but create another. And this is done in division which enormously helps Montreal and does nothing for the Wings.

As far as the only gets if he asks for a trade, how about if the Wings get a decent return that does not include Domi.
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Sep 8, 2020 at 9:36
#16
Buffbry
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Quoting: keidongiles
You under-value Domi. Mantha in a first line role was on pace for 30 goals and 75 points this year, Domi had 28 goals 72 points in a top 6 role in Montreal.


Like it matters, Domi is soft, a primadonna and not good in the locker room. Wings fans want nothing to do with Domi and you MUST overpay for someone who has 0 desire to move along with a team that doesn't want to trade him. Your undervaluing what mantha means to the wings. No deal you keep Domi and wings rescind their counter offer now
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:53
#17
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Quoting: keidongiles
Calgary would get a huge return for Gaudreau that consists of current and future assets, Tatar is just to add depth to the top 6, not to replace Gaudeau.


Odd most people say we will get less than what you have us spending on Tatar
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:59
#18
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OTT declines super quick.

OTT isnt interested in paying for Byron full stop. If you think you can recoup assets for him, you need to find another team.
Sep 8, 2020 at 10:28
#19
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Terrible for Detroit, just stop with the Mantha fantasies he's not getting moved
Sep 8, 2020 at 11:08
#20
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Blues don't need a goalie and if we did we would have had you throw that in on the Allen deal. Secondly, if allen gets a 3rd how does this dude pull a 5th? you'd be lucky to get someone to pay a 7th for him
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Sep 8, 2020 at 11:13
#21
Red Wing Nut
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Comedy Central habs style mantha chapter 502
Sep 8, 2020 at 11:46
#22
Dumb trades are easy
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NOTHING REALISTIC HERE.

Bergevin wouldn't offer 8M at Sergashev and TB would match.

The last thing Calgary need is a winger.

Lindgren isn’t even worth a 7th.

Ottawa wont take a contract of 3x3. 4M for a bottom 6 player. Melnyk is cheap, if you havent noticed.

Detroit dont want to trade Mantha and the low value of your offer is laughable.
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Sep 9, 2020 at 12:29
#23
mokumboi
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Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
Blues don't need a goalie and if we did we would have had you throw that in on the Allen deal. Secondly, if allen gets a 3rd how does this dude pull a 5th? you'd be lucky to get someone to pay a small box of broken paper clips for him



FYP
Sep 9, 2020 at 12:41
#24
Beanmachine
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Odd most people say we will get less than what you have us spending on Tatar


Well most people on this site - which aint saying much.
 
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