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2021-2022 NHL Discussion Thread #11

Jan. 25, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 2:40 p.m.
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Reverse Retro return?


I swear to god if Dallas has another crappy design issue I'll lose it.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 2:51 p.m.
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I swear to god if Dallas has another crappy design issue I'll lose it.


Mooterus 2 electric boogaloo
Jan. 25, 2022 at 2:53 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Mooterus 2 electric boogaloo


Hopefully.

Or something like these bad boys:

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Jan. 25, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.
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Nah, that was a bad hit, straight into Lindgren’s numbers and into the boards, that’s Lemieux fault


I disagree. Watch the video, at the last second Lindgren turns into the boards and puts himself in a bad position.
Jan. 25, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Hopefully.

Or something like these bad boys:

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>change color scheme to Victory Green and gray instead of teal and yellow
>write "Stars" in that font

Take ALL of my money.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Hopefully.

Or something like these bad boys:

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nono bring the Goofy Seal back lul

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Jan. 25, 2022 at 3:53 p.m.
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cbj-1.jpg

Found this concept from around the time the first batch of RRs came out. I would have preferred this.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 3:53 p.m.
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please
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 3:54 p.m.
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Should we make a jersey thread
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 4:01 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Should we make a jersey thread


seems like a good idea imo
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 4:05 p.m.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 4:26 p.m.
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I asked my math teacher “why doesn’t egghead play Oliver Wahlstrom more”. My teacher said he is inconsistent. If that’s the case mantha would barely play in the nhl. Is what he said true.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.
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Poor Karlsson, was on a tear this year and really performing - is now out after a successful arm surgery, will not play until at least March though (which is when he will be evaluated for a timeline).


What would you do with 11mil in cap space approaching the deadline in a weaker division?

That core isn't getting any younger.

#Kucherovrule.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
What would you do with 11mil in cap space approaching the deadline in a weaker division?

That core isn't getting any younger.

#Kucherovrule.


San Jose is in a odd situation.

They just lost their WC spot. Theyre tied for it still but they have more GP played then those ahead, and more then EDM who is chasing everyone right now as they free fall.

Looking into the roster:

Meier - Hertl - Barabanov = legit top line but Hertl is a pending UFA with no word on the direction rn, Bara is also a pending UFA
Dahlen - Couture - Gregor = "ok 2nd line" but is either really hot or really cold
Cogs - Bonino - Nieto = zero offence
Raska/ Viel - Weatherby - Pedersen = just a bunch of rookies tryna fight or find their ground in the NHL

INJ =
Labanc - coachs doghouse, NEEDS TO BE TRADED for some value
Balcers = good player, could see him this week coming back
Gadjovich= just a fighter

Ferraro - Burns = ELITE, lol jk but theyre rock solid
Megna - Merkley = Merkley is now our #2/3 and hes a rookie, but hes been VERY good quietly, so has AHL lifer Megna
Simek/ Vlasic - Meloche = Just a waste of ice time here (trade Simek for a 3rd or 4th please)

INJ =
Karlsson = was having a dominant year, out long term
Middleton = was having a dominant year, concussion issues
Knyzhov = was having a dominant year last year as a rookie, long term injury and recovering from surgery still, no timeline

Reimer - Hill = either really really really good, or just okay and our offence isnt good enough to support "just okay" (and both have dealt with health issues)

So you have a team that COULD make the playoffs, has struggled all year to be healthy (and were COVID test dummys while other teams complained, SJS wasnt given a break); but theyre just depleted. The way the team has played despite the odds, deserve a playoff spot, but deserving doesnt mean ****.
All of our offence comes from:
1. Meier (looks like a long term Shark)
2. Hertl (pending UFA deciding future)
3. Barabanov (pending UFA deciding future)
4. Couture (hot or cold)
5. Dahlen (inconsistent but hes a rookie)
6. Gregor, dont think he COULD BUY a goal, terrible terrible luck. honestly its sad how little luck hes had with how good hes been.

So if youre SJS; its not worth going all in, its not worth selling. Youre filled with cap space and premium assets (looking like a top prospect pool in the whole league) yet as you said, an aging core who wants to win now (Burns, Karlsson having dynamite years with Reimer). You cant really add upgrades until Hertl and Barabanov get decided. And our record has only shown Hertl he can help make us a winning team BUT he deserves a shot at the cup if he wants it.

Really SJS needs a top 6 RW for Dahlen - Couture, primarily a SCORER, and PP specialist would be ideal. They then need help on the third pair but they have literally 3 injured TOP4 defenders so it would have to be a rental. But - if Hertl walks, SJS should pack it up this year and:

Trade Hertl for the BIGGEST HAUL you can receive (50% ret.), Trade Barabanov for a sneaky high return (at 50% ret. , I could honestly see Barabanov at 500k getting close to if not more than a first), and float Reimer for a overpay, move Simek for a 4th, trade Labanc for a 2nd + prospect (thats optimistic), and pray to god Arizona will take on the Vlasic contract (or that he retires).

AND the funniest thing if SJS was healthy and called up some rookies they would not need any help and would be a playoff team imo..

Eklund - Hertl - Meier
Dahlen - Couture - Barabanov
Gregor - Bonino - Balcers
Raska - Pedersen - Coe
Nieto/ Weatherby/ Cogs

Ferraro - Burns
Middleton - Karlsson
Knyzhov - Merkley
Megna

Reimer Hill

Shoot Vlasic to the sun, trade Simek/ Labanc and you have a better team and a team with tons of cap space.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Yes, I really hope the new leafs RR is way better than the last one (it was probably a bottom 5-10 reverse retro).

Wonder what Seattle's will look like or if they'll even be part of it lol.


I actually kind of liked the Leafs one.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 5:16 p.m.
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Quoting: yikes
San Jose is in a odd situation.

They just lost their WC spot. Theyre tied for it still but they have more GP played then those ahead, and more then EDM who is chasing everyone right now as they free fall.

Looking into the roster:

Meier - Hertl - Barabanov = legit top line but Hertl is a pending UFA with no word on the direction rn, Bara is also a pending UFA
Dahlen - Couture - Gregor = "ok 2nd line" but is either really hot or really cold
Cogs - Bonino - Nieto = zero offence
Raska/ Viel - Weatherby - Pedersen = just a bunch of rookies tryna fight or find their ground in the NHL

INJ =
Labanc - coachs doghouse, NEEDS TO BE TRADED for some value
Balcers = good player, could see him this week coming back
Gadjovich= just a fighter

Ferraro - Burns = ELITE, lol jk but theyre rock solid
Megna - Merkley = Merkley is now our #2/3 and hes a rookie, but hes been VERY good quietly, so has AHL lifer Megna
Simek/ Vlasic - Meloche = Just a waste of ice time here (trade Simek for a 3rd or 4th please)

INJ =
Karlsson = was having a dominant year, out long term
Middleton = was having a dominant year, concussion issues
Knyzhov = was having a dominant year last year as a rookie, long term injury and recovering from surgery still, no timeline

Reimer - Hill = either really really really good, or just okay and our offence isnt good enough to support "just okay" (and both have dealt with health issues)

So you have a team that COULD make the playoffs, has struggled all year to be healthy (and were COVID test dummys while other teams complained, SJS wasnt given a break); but theyre just depleted. The way the team has played despite the odds, deserve a playoff spot, but deserving doesnt mean ****.
All of our offence comes from:
1. Meier (looks like a long term Shark)
2. Hertl (pending UFA deciding future)
3. Barabanov (pending UFA deciding future)
4. Couture (hot or cold)
5. Dahlen (inconsistent but hes a rookie)
6. Gregor, dont think he COULD BUY a goal, terrible terrible luck. honestly its sad how little luck hes had with how good hes been.

So if youre SJS; its not worth going all in, its not worth selling. Youre filled with cap space and premium assets (looking like a top prospect pool in the whole league) yet as you said, an aging core who wants to win now (Burns, Karlsson having dynamite years with Reimer). You cant really add upgrades until Hertl and Barabanov get decided. And our record has only shown Hertl he can help make us a winning team BUT he deserves a shot at the cup if he wants it.

Really SJS needs a top 6 RW for Dahlen - Couture, primarily a SCORER, and PP specialist would be ideal. They then need help on the third pair but they have literally 3 injured TOP4 defenders so it would have to be a rental. But - if Hertl walks, SJS should pack it up this year and:

Trade Hertl for the BIGGEST HAUL you can receive (50% ret.), Trade Barabanov for a sneaky high return (at 50% ret. , I could honestly see Barabanov at 500k getting close to if not more than a first), and float Reimer for a overpay, move Simek for a 4th, trade Labanc for a 2nd + prospect (thats optimistic), and pray to god Arizona will take on the Vlasic contract (or that he retires).

I think the caps should go for barbs
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 5:16 p.m.
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I feel bad for the dog McMichael is holding You have to support the legs
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 5:20 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
I think the caps should go for barbs


I dont think Barabanov will be traded, I could see Balcers going because Barabanov has earned a contract off his 1m x 1y ; I'd offer him 2-3m x 3-5 years. Hopefully he'd sign that because it would be idiotic to let him walk if the Sharks and him cant get a deal done. He would be a hot commodity on the market at 500k cap hit (TDL).
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 5:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Yes, I really hope the new leafs RR is way better than the last one (it was probably a bottom 5-10 reverse retro).

Wonder what Seattle's will look like or if they'll even be part of it lol.


Wouldn't be surprised if they went Metropolitan's ish.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.
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Future assistant GM for the Lightning lol
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 6:06 p.m.
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Future assistant GM for the Lightning lol

Well now I know what to get to be a gm
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 6:22 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
I actually kind of liked the Leafs one.


The logo was the only bad part. But it was by far the worst logo in leafs history. If they put literally any other leafs logo it’s a solid jersey.
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 7:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122




Battle of the disappointing teams JustABoss EsoYeezus69
You get to witness the ugly black jerseys with me


Ahahaha we're off to a great start
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Jan. 25, 2022 at 7:09 p.m.
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I just turned on my TV and it’s 1-0 already…14 seconds in…
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