2021-22 NHL Season Discussion Thread #21-TDL Edition

KFTW

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Come on Flyers. Screw you

Mar. 18, 2022 at 7:39 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Need your thoughts on this blockbuster :
Savoie and 2023 2nd for Lehkonen
2022 1st for Dvorak
Yamamoto + Kassian + Smith + 2024 2nd for Allen (part of it is dumping Kassian)

It’s a package deal for all 3

Don’t think Carter Savoie + 2nd gets Lehky, it’s fair value but no reason for us to move him at fair value, the Allen trade looks good, not sure if I’d do that Dvorak move considering what we paid for him

Mar. 18, 2022 at 7:41 p.m.

#330

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Savoie is so good tho. Feel like it’s pretty fair return .

Mar. 18, 2022 at 7:42 p.m.

#331

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Quoting: csick

Savoie is so good tho. Feel like it’s pretty fair return .

Never said it wasn’t fair, there’s just no reason for us to move him for that when he brings a lot to the team and arguably should get a 1st/good prospect to get us to part ways with him

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 7:46 p.m.

#332

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Man, can whoever designs the Leafs jerseys chill out with the 'dark logo on dark jersey/light logo on light jersey' scheme? Not that there's anything wrong with it, but it's been the same thing for every specialty 'Leafs' jersey (as in not St. Pats or Arenas) since the Centennial Classic. Have a new idea ffs.

Don't know why I'm so bothered by this, but I am.

Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:25 p.m.

#333

Devil

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Quoting: Db1899

Smith has also been bad when paired with Severson, I disagree that siegenthalers breakout led to smith's slump, like I said its common for defenseman to have a sophomore slump.

Dobson and Quinn Hughes both had sophomore slumps. Dobson spends most of his 5v5 TOI with Chara and still puts up great results. Smith will be fine next season.

I agree about the sophomore slump but Siegenthaler took the top 4 minutes over Smith which is why I said that

Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:25 p.m.

#334

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Quoting: csick

Could Chicago swoop in and trade for Blackwood + Smith? Kubalik and more pieces

I hope not

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:26 p.m.

#335

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Quoting: mondo

nhl writers are comical

As insufferable as this sounds, there's definitely some "don't want to be accused of Leafs bias-itis" in this experts panel. My favourite is the Jack Adams voting pic.twitter.com/l1gOGBM9Ar
— Jeff Veillette (@JeffVeillette) March 18, 2022

Gallant - team metrics are awful outside of Hart quality goaltending: 34 points
Boudreau - brought a bottom 5 team to playoff contention: 3 points
Keefe - fastest leafs coach to 60 wins in history: 0 points

even Cassidy having no points is hilarious.

Bowness 0 points, exactly how it should be.

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:27 p.m.

#336

Db1899

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Ilya samsonov needs Mitch Korn

Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:33 p.m.

#337

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Analytics are very valuable in sports, but most of the analytics guys on Twitter are unbearable to listen to. Way too overconfident in their models. Seriously lacking humility and nuance. No wonder hockey people are hesitant to trust analytics. 1/2
— Daniel Hudgin (@DanHudgin) March 18, 2022

Great take imo

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:39 p.m.

#338

Hakuna Matata

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Analytics are very valuable in sports, but most of the analytics guys on Twitter are unbearable to listen to. Way too overconfident in their models. Seriously lacking humility and nuance. No wonder hockey people are hesitant to trust analytics. 1/2
— Daniel Hudgin (@DanHudgin) March 18, 2022

Great take imo

I agree with parts. Should never just use analytics when judging a player. Micro stats, eye test, and other aspects both on and off the ice are important to consider to.

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:40 p.m.

#339

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Washington trades Protas + 1st and one more piece for Lehkonen and Allen. Who says no?

Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:43 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Washington trades Protas + 1st and one more piece for Lehkonen and Allen. Who says no?

Well Washington would have 3 good NHL goalies but apart from that, makes sense

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:44 p.m.

#341

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Well Washington would have 3 good NHL goalies but apart from that, makes sense

If they sent a goalie back. Just not sure who lol

Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:45 p.m.

#342

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Well Washington would have 3 good NHL goalies but apart from that, makes sense

Quoting: csick

If they sent a goalie back. Just not sure who lol

Trade Samsonov afterwards I guess

As after that last playoff performance idk if Samsonov is the guy. Vanecek has been better this year to

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:46 p.m.

#343

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Quoting: aadoyle

Trade Samsonov afterwards I guess

Yeah I feel like they shouldn’t throw him in this deal

Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:47 p.m.

#344

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Quoting: csick

Yeah I feel like they shouldn’t throw him in this deal

No no once they get Allen trade Samsonov to a team looking for goalie help in a separate deal

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:50 p.m.

#345

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Quoting: aadoyle

No no once they get Allen trade Samsonov to a team looking for goalie help in a separate deal

Yup makes sense

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 9:23 p.m.

#346

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Josh Norris is unstoppable on that one timer from the right faceoff dot

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 9:28 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Josh Norris is unstoppable on that one timer from the right faceoff dot

sounds like suzuki except with a wrist shot

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 9:41 p.m.

#348

Hakuna Matata

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So flames arent done and want Domi. Only realistic way I believe they could do it is if Monahan goes back or something. As rn I dont think they got the space to do it.

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 9:52 p.m.

#349

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Quoting: aadoyle

So flames arent done and want Domi. Only realistic way I believe they could do it is if Monahan goes back or something. As rn I dont think they got the space to do it.

according to CF, CGY has 627K deadline space, and (according to the trade machine) Domi's effective cap hit half retained is 530K (1.06M without retention) so maybe they could add him like that
plus send one guy down, say ritchie (180K deadline cap hit) or richardson (160K deadline cap hit), that frees up a bit of space
question is though what do they trade, and what does CBJ want? they have 8 picks in the next two drafts, with only one first and two seconds

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Mar. 18, 2022 at 9:53 p.m.

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