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2021-2022 NHL Season Discussion Thread #32 - DALLAS VS VEGAS - This is the endgame..

Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:13 p.m.
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This will work at the advantage of the States. If the Russians can’t play Junior hockey in Canada then I’d assume that USA becomes their number one option. Either with College/Uni or USNDP.


They’re not US citizens so USNTDP won’t happen
Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.
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They’re not US citizens so USNDP won’t happen


Can’t you apply for a citizenship? Or would it take too long that you’re probably playing professional by then?
Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:19 p.m.
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Can’t you apply for a citizenship? Or would it take too long that you’re probably playing professional by then?


You don’t become a citizen just by moving there, it take time before you officially become a citizen
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:20 p.m.
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The NHLPA poll had a category of which goalie would you take if you needed to win 1 game, Vasy came in 1st, Carey Price came in 2nd


Keep in mind that Shesterkin has never played a playoff game (unless you count the one game he played in the play-in round in the bubble), so Price probably got the benefit of experience bias
Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:21 p.m.
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Keep in mind that Shesterkin has never played a playoff game (unless you count the one game he played in the play-in round in the bubble), so Price probably got the benefit of experience bias


I mean, Price would definitely be up there. Like in a 1 game situation, there isn’t exactly many other clutch goalies
Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:22 p.m.
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The NHLPA poll had a category of which goalie would you take if you needed to win 1 game, Vasy came in 1st, Carey Price came in 2nd

I’m surprised he didn’t come in 1st lol. The players are even more out of date than GMs, established stars hang around in these polls for YEARS past their prime. Like go back 5-7 years and decide who deserves to win each of these awards, and that’s who wins them this year lol
Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.
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I mean, Price would definitely be up there. Like in a 1 game situation, there isn’t exactly many other clutch goalies


Ah, K, I thought your bolding the words "Carey Price" meant you were surprised he was picked
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:29 p.m.
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Hockey isn’t a sport that should be read solely from numbers. I use and enjoy analytics don’t get me wrong.
Nor does everything need to be factual.

But hockey is a much more complex sport than basketball in my eyes. More errors, faster pace, much more facets, goalies, it goes on and on. Basketball is a great sport btw (just a random tangent).
Id say hockeys eye test comes from experience and also subjective analysis. Like I think Craig buttons analysis on Gourde playing for team Canada is pure idiocy. He has a large resume and an experienced background with a wealth of knowledge. But his analysis to say Gourde should be on Team Canada is stupid; despite him having pedigree (In my eyes).

When I watch the Avs I don’t go; ah Rantanen is clearly floating on this lining. I watch that top line go out for the Avs and go; man Rantanen is a ****ing monster. I don’t go; eh Mackinnon is pretty good Rantanen should be happy to play with this guy.

Like if I go; Marner plays with Bunting therefore he is better than Rantanen because Rantanen plays with Landeskog. That’s a flawed argument imo and very one sided. It’s just very “blinders on, looking straight ahead”.

It would be like saying Merkley is better than XYZ player because he plays with Vlasic who should negate a chunk of criticism for Merkley. Which is flawed. Vlasic can be bad and Merkley can also be poor - even if Merkley has a high ceiling and some flashes of brilliance.


Am I crazy to say that Matthews isn't even that skilled? I'm not hating, he just has a franchise level shot and maybe the best offensive positioning we have ever seen in hockey
Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:29 p.m.
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You don’t become a citizen just by moving there, it take time before you officially become a citizen


Read the 2nd part of what I wrote.
Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:31 p.m.
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Brutal for the Predators
Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:32 p.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Can’t you apply for a citizenship? Or would it take too long that you’re probably playing professional by then?


Quoting: A_Habs_fan
You don’t become a citizen just by moving there, it take time before you officially become a citizen


Yea, citizenship takes a long time. Maybe 8 years? Haven't looked into it, haven't had to lol being a citizen. But that seems like a few 2 many years to wait lol.
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:33 p.m.
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Yea, citizenship takes a long time. Maybe 8 years? Haven't looked into it, haven't had to lol being a citizen. But that seems like a few 2 many years to wait lol.


Yeah, this was the answer I was looking for.
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 5:53 p.m.
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Am I crazy to say that Matthews isn't even that skilled? I'm not hating, he just has a franchise level shot and maybe the best offensive positioning we have ever seen in hockey


Few guys can protect the puck like him.
He doesn't need all of the skill and flashiness that other guys have, he's gonna attack the net anyhow and there isn't really anything you can do to stop him.
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 6:01 p.m.
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 6:09 p.m.
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It's amusing when people say "helping Vegas" then proceeds to trade future considerations for Evgenii Dadonov + 1st round pick + Brisson. Or even last year with Tampa: Tyler Johnson + Cernak + 1st + Alnefelt = helping Tampa. You're not helping them, you're taking advantage of them
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 6:12 p.m.
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Few guys can protect the puck like him.
He doesn't need all of the skill and flashiness that other guys have, he's gonna attack the net anyhow and there isn't really anything you can do to stop him.


In his rookie year I always thought how LUCKY he was to always be in the right place at the right time, but I learned in his 2nd and 3rd season that it's not luck, he just knows where to be at all times, it's crazy
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 6:20 p.m.
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For all the hell you give Canadian media for promoting the Leafs, nobody on here posts more about their favourite teams
accomplishments than you 😂
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 6:22 p.m.
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Trying to find a team to bandwagon for the playoffs. I like to cheer for former Habs I still like.

Los Angeles Kings
Phillip Danault (yes)
Marc Bergevin (yes)

Washington Capitals
Lars Eller (yes)

Colorado Avalanche
Artturi Lehkonen (yes)

Carolina Hurricanes
Max Domi (yes)
Jesperi Kotkaniemi (no)

Calgary Flames
Tyler Toffoli (yes)

Pittsburgh Penguins
Nathan Beaulieu (irrelevant/doesn't even play)

Dallas Stars
Alexander Radulov (meh)
Joel Hanley (meh)

Florida Panthers
Ben Chiarot (yes)

Edmonton Oilers
Brett Kulak (yes)

Minnesota Wild
Jordie Benn (meh)
Nicolas Deslauriers (yes)
Brandon Baddock (irrelevant/doesn't even play)
Jon Merrill (meh)

Boston Bruins
Mike Reilly (meh)

Nashville Predators
Nick Cousins (meh)
Michael McCarron (yes)

Tampa Bay Lightning
Corey Perry (yes)
Mikhail Sergachev (meh)

St. Louis Blues
Marco Scandella (no)
Matthew Peca (irrelevant/doesn't even play)

New York Rangers
Jarred Tinordi (yes)

In order of who I'd root for
1. Calgary (bring the Cup to Canada + Tyler Toffoli)
2. Colorado
3. LA
4. Florida
5. Tampa
6. Edmonton
Apr. 27, 2022 at 7:02 p.m.
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Trying to find a team to bandwagon for the playoffs. I like to cheer for former Habs I still like.

Los Angeles Kings
Phillip Danault (yes)
Marc Bergevin (yes)

Washington Capitals
Lars Eller (yes)

Colorado Avalanche
Artturi Lehkonen (yes)

Carolina Hurricanes
Max Domi (yes)
Jesperi Kotkaniemi (no)

Calgary Flames
Tyler Toffoli (yes)

Pittsburgh Penguins
Nathan Beaulieu (irrelevant/doesn't even play)

Dallas Stars
Alexander Radulov (meh)
Joel Hanley (meh)

Florida Panthers
Ben Chiarot (yes)

Edmonton Oilers
Brett Kulak (yes)

Minnesota Wild
Jordie Benn (meh)
Nicolas Deslauriers (yes)
Brandon Baddock (irrelevant/doesn't even play)
Jon Merrill (meh)

Boston Bruins
Mike Reilly (meh)

Nashville Predators
Nick Cousins (meh)
Michael McCarron (yes)

Tampa Bay Lightning
Corey Perry (yes)
Mikhail Sergachev (meh)

St. Louis Blues
Marco Scandella (no)
Matthew Peca (irrelevant/doesn't even play)

New York Rangers
Jarred Tinordi (yes)

In order of who I'd root for
1. Calgary (bring the Cup to Canada + Tyler Toffoli)
2. Colorado
3. LA
4. Florida
5. Tampa
6. Edmonton


I think Colorado is most people's 2nd favorite team. Everyone I know wants them to win, especially after their team gets eliminated.
Apr. 27, 2022 at 7:05 p.m.
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Trying to find a team to bandwagon for the playoffs. I like to cheer for former Habs I still like.

Los Angeles Kings
Phillip Danault (yes)
Marc Bergevin (yes)

Washington Capitals
Lars Eller (yes)

Colorado Avalanche
Artturi Lehkonen (yes)

Carolina Hurricanes
Max Domi (yes)
Jesperi Kotkaniemi (no)

Calgary Flames
Tyler Toffoli (yes)

Pittsburgh Penguins
Nathan Beaulieu (irrelevant/doesn't even play)

Dallas Stars
Alexander Radulov (meh)
Joel Hanley (meh)

Florida Panthers
Ben Chiarot (yes)

Edmonton Oilers
Brett Kulak (yes)

Minnesota Wild
Jordie Benn (meh)
Nicolas Deslauriers (yes)
Brandon Baddock (irrelevant/doesn't even play)
Jon Merrill (meh)

Boston Bruins
Mike Reilly (meh)

Nashville Predators
Nick Cousins (meh)
Michael McCarron (yes)

Tampa Bay Lightning
Corey Perry (yes)
Mikhail Sergachev (meh)

St. Louis Blues
Marco Scandella (no)
Matthew Peca (irrelevant/doesn't even play)

New York Rangers
Jarred Tinordi (yes)

In order of who I'd root for
1. Calgary (bring the Cup to Canada + Tyler Toffoli)
2. Colorado
3. LA
4. Florida
5. Tampa
6. Edmonton


Surprised Tampa is that high

(Might copy this idea later lol)
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 7:08 p.m.
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Playoff/Draft Implications for every team tonight
Jets vs Flyers
Jets: Sitting at 14th pick currently; Win puts them up 3 points ahead of Islanders, Loss puts them 1 point ahead Islanders
Flyers; Sitting at 4th pick currently; Win ties them with Devils for 4/5th pick, Loss puts them 2 points behind Devils

Rangers vs Canadiens
Rangers: Sitting at Metro #2; Win/loss does nothing for Rangers
Canadiens: Sitting at 1st pick currently, Win ties them with Canadiens for 1st/2nd pick, Loss clinches #1 pick

Stars vs Coyotes:
Coyotes: Sitting at 2nd pick currently; Win clinches #2 pick for Coyotes, Loss puts them 2 points ahead of the Canadiens and eliminates Vegaswink
Stars: Sitting at WC2 currently; Win CLINCHES playoff spot; Loss puts them 4 points ahead of Vegas

Blackhawks vs Golden Knights
Blackhawks: Sitting at 6th pick currently; Win puts them up 4 points ahead of the Devils, Loss puts them up 2 points ahead of Devils
Knights: Sitting at WC3; Win puts them up 2 points behind Stars for WC2, Loss ELIMINATES VEGAS

Kraken vs Kings
Kraken: SItting at 3rd pick currently; Win puts them 1 point behind the Flyers; Loss puts them 3 points behind Flyers
Kings: Sitting at Pacific 3; Win/loss does nothing for Kings
Apr. 27, 2022 at 7:11 p.m.
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Surprised Tampa is that high

(Might copy this idea later lol)


Corey Perry
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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For all the hell you give Canadian media for promoting the Leafs, nobody on here posts more about their favourite teams
accomplishments than you 😂


what's wrong with me trying to educate people about Mike Smiths drastic turnaround that he has lately
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 7:27 p.m.
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what's wrong with me trying to educate people about Mike Smiths drastic turnaround that he has lately


I don't mean this in a mean way (I hope you understand) but no one really cares lol. As someone who is not an oilers fan, I don't really care one way or the other about Mike Smith.

But you are still free to post about him if you want. I'm just making an observation.
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Apr. 27, 2022 at 7:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I don't mean this in a mean way (I hope you understand) but no one really cares lol. As someone who is not an oilers fan, I don't really care one way or the other about Mike Smith.

But you are still free to post about him if you want. I'm just making an observation.


I get what your saying but I don't really know what to talk about though
 
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