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2021-2022 NHL Playoffs Discussion Thread #4 - And Then There Were Eight

May 31, 2022 at 10:01 p.m.
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No lmao. Vasi and Hedman, Cernak, McDonagh are going to eat the west for breakfast - truly unfortunate for both teams (Avs/Oils) great runs.

Neither team matters and I feel bad for McDavid/ Leon (or Mac) as they are the only reason I’m cheering for the Oilers


Foote Sergachev Bogo need to play at least a little bit. Toronto caught Tampa in transition a bunch of times and they're not a rush team. Both these team will get plenty of opportunities if Tampa manages to deal with the Rangers.
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May 31, 2022 at 10:03 p.m.
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In a single game maybe but I don't think there's a defense that can contend in a punch out with either the Avalanche or Oilers over an entire 7 game series.

They'll be made to look human, just like every other team that's played these two teams. It'll come down to their ability to keep Tampa out of their own net.


And that’s exactly why either team doesn’t matter and if goes to 7 I’m putting 20k on Vasi shutout
May 31, 2022 at 10:04 p.m.
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DANG - I bet big on the the under!
Sigh!
Settin' the alarm for workin' for the "man" again tomorrow...
Sigh!
rock on


And I thought my bet was bad!
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May 31, 2022 at 10:05 p.m.
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And I thought my bet was bad!


I may have missed it....

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May 31, 2022 at 10:06 p.m.
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My opinion on the Makar goal is that it was a good goal

From the angle that shows Makar coming forward, it shows that his stick is not touching the puck until Nichushkin touches the blue line, so technically not offside
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May 31, 2022 at 10:09 p.m.
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PLAYERS. IN THIS LEAGUE. THINK IT WAS OFFSIDE. WHY DOES NOBODY BUT THREE NERDS IN TORONTO KNOW THE RULES??

Hate the NHL. Fundamentally stupid league.

Honestly if Makar did that intentionally, the man's got an IQ of 200. I think we're gonna see a lot more plays like that moving forward.
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May 31, 2022 at 10:11 p.m.
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I may have missed it....

Refresh: ___Two way McDavid and Draisaitl 2 pts each__!


Not a bad bet at all! But I’m still sweating.
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May 31, 2022 at 10:14 p.m.
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Edited May 31, 2022 at 10:19 p.m.
Quoting: BeterChiarelli
PLAYERS. IN THIS LEAGUE. THINK IT WAS OFFSIDE. WHY DOES NOBODY BUT THREE NERDS IN TORONTO KNOW THE RULES??

Hate the NHL. Fundamentally stupid league.

Honestly if Makar did that intentionally, the man's got an IQ of 200. I think we're gonna see a lot more plays like that moving forward.


not at all actually looking for clarity on this; but would be interesting if the majority of people who disagree with the call are players/ more athletes/ whatever compared to the majority of agreeing with the call - just the “psychology” of it
May 31, 2022 at 10:24 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
PLAYERS. IN THIS LEAGUE. THINK IT WAS OFFSIDE. WHY DOES NOBODY BUT THREE NERDS IN TORONTO KNOW THE RULES??

Hate the NHL. Fundamentally stupid league.

Honestly if Makar did that intentionally, the man's got an IQ of 200. I think we're gonna see a lot more plays like that moving forward.






Slightly off topic but in terms of ‘see a lot more plays of’ curious to see if the becomes a trend like the drop pass CHI made so effective everyone else copied.
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May 31, 2022 at 10:25 p.m.
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Ngl the McLean explanation helped BUT I want to see that same play 1000 more times in 1000 more games and see how consistent the league is with calling it onside.

If players are gonna start using the short chip instead of the long dump on a delayed offside, how many times are human refs going to make that call right? Offside reviews are already super controversial and border on not in the nature of the sport. If we're seeing the next "evolution" in possession plays in the league, they need to put sensors in the puck, the bluelines and probably the toes of skaters and take a giant leap towards autonomous offside reffing. The game is already so fast and if players are going to make high-speed, short distance plays, we need something more precise than four morons on skates to keep track of the calls.
May 31, 2022 at 10:26 p.m.
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Not a bad bet at all! But I’m still sweating.


There's still time. And OT too!!
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May 31, 2022 at 10:26 p.m.
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This game is wild.
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May 31, 2022 at 10:29 p.m.
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Ngl the McLean explanation helped BUT I want to see that same play 1000 more times in 1000 more games and see how consistent the league is with calling it onside.

If players are gonna start using the short chip instead of the long dump on a delayed offside, how many times are human refs going to make that call right?Offside reviews are already super controversial and border on not in the nature of the sport. If we're seeing the next "evolution" in possession plays in the league, they need to put sensors in the puck, the bluelines and probably the toes of skaters and take a giant leap towards autonomous offside reffing. The game is already so fast and if players are going to make high-speed, short distance plays, we need something more precise than four morons on skates to keep track of the calls.


I think it's a massively lucky call. Makar had no idea where Nish was and was just booking it. It's not like he was waiting until Nish was onside. Players trying to do this deliberately would be slower, the timing would be off all the time. It's not going to be a massive change to the game. It's just a weird play.
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May 31, 2022 at 10:29 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Ngl the McLean explanation helped BUT I want to see that same play 1000 more times in 1000 more games and see how consistent the league is with calling it onside.

If players are gonna start using the short chip instead of the long dump on a delayed offside, how many times are human refs going to make that call right? Offside reviews are already super controversial and border on not in the nature of the sport. If we're seeing the next "evolution" in possession plays in the league, they need to put sensors in the puck, the bluelines and probably the toes of skaters and take a giant leap towards autonomous offside reffing. The game is already so fast and if players are going to make high-speed, short distance plays, we need something more precise than four morons on skates to keep track of the calls.


It would probably be like 550-450 either way (if you put that call in a vacuum)
May 31, 2022 at 10:31 p.m.
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It would probably be like 520-480 either way


Which is kind of my point: how much longer do the bookies in Vegas continue to tolerate the comical array of shenanigans this league puts up with?
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May 31, 2022 at 10:38 p.m.
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Which is kind of my point: how much longer do the bookies in Vegas continue to tolerate the comical array of shenanigans this league puts up with?

They still put up with starting goalies not being confirmed until 5 minutes before puck drop, and absolutely zero transparency when it comes to injuries (in nature but especially length). I think those are far bigger issues for bookies to force the NHL to deal with than inconsistent reffing. Because at least we can often rely on the reffing to always be atrocious both ways, as pathetic as that sounds.
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May 31, 2022 at 10:40 p.m.
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May 31, 2022 at 10:44 p.m.
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Safe to say no "CONN SMYTHE" could come from anyone in this series:
A Forward can boast - I lead all skaters with 26 pts but was -38!
The Goalies strut: - I won the series 4-3 in double OT mofo. Had a 6.68GAA & .532 Sv% - I'm King of the World!
May 31, 2022 at 10:44 p.m.
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They're so f*cking good 5v4 lmao
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May 31, 2022 at 10:45 p.m.
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Sensing a "bag" skate for both clubs tomorrow...
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May 31, 2022 at 10:49 p.m.
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We get it Avs crowd the refs do suck but that was a fine call
May 31, 2022 at 10:50 p.m.
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are kidding me Av's Fans "ref u suck chants" there the reason your winning this game right now
May 31, 2022 at 10:50 p.m.
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Trying to figure out where Kuemper suffered his UBI

Was it his eye again as thats the only thing I could think of as Eye injuries are weird and can resurface randomly
May 31, 2022 at 10:51 p.m.
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They're so f*cking good 5v4 lmao


If anyone had the misfortune of watching a Sharks power play it makes you appreciate the beauty of the Oilers PP
May 31, 2022 at 10:55 p.m.
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I watched that clip in very slow motion. Yeah he did it in a way where he didnt tough it once it crossed.

But anyways more playoff controversy who would have guessed lul


Imagine if it was the leafs who were scored on like that
Internet would've BLOWN UP
 
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