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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #9 - The Demise (Revival?) of Calgary

Jul. 27, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
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After looking back not surprised Heinen wasnt signed to a big deal with another team as if we look through history guys who leave Pitts system often dont do as well. There are a few exceptions but Sullivan seems to know how to get the best out of these guys.

Same can probs also be applied to Rodrigues as him not being signed also seems to be demonstrating this as you got to think if it wasnt for the "penguin" factor he would be signed 3mill x 3 years by now or something

Milano is the only real surprise to me as the kids got talent and yet nobody seems to want him rn. Weird
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Jul. 27, 2022 at 9:10 p.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
I'm assuming you mean Necas and some other pieces as well, because if it was somehow Necas for Miller straight up, I'd do that in a heartbeat from the Canes' perspective


Yeah just Vancouver fans always want more than Carolina is willing to give up for a rental
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Jul. 27, 2022 at 9:11 p.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
Solid signing





Quoting: Canesfan21_
Now under 2M to sign Necas (including Gardiner coming off LTIR) definitely some other move coming and I’m hoping it doesn’t involve trading Necas for JT miller


Hes probs getting traded as relationships seemed to have soured with the coaching staff and this makes it easier to do so. Seattle should make a trade as they could use a RD
Jul. 27, 2022 at 10:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Canesfan21_
Now under 2M to sign Necas (including Gardiner coming off LTIR) definitely some other move coming and I’m hoping it doesn’t involve trading Necas for JT miller


Necas for Miller doesn’t help the Canes’ cap problems. Miller 50% retained at 2.6 million though 👀. Would cost you a pretty penny
Jul. 27, 2022 at 10:34 p.m.
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Yeah just Vancouver fans always want more than Carolina is willing to give up for a rental

At this point, fans are being a little outrageous. If we can get a good prospect or player and a first, I’ll be satisfied. No need for top prospect, young roster player, two firsts and your firstborn child
Jul. 27, 2022 at 10:46 p.m.
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At this point, fans are being a little outrageous. If we can get a good prospect or player and a first, I’ll be satisfied. No need for top prospect, young roster player, two firsts and your firstborn child

firstborn child underrated af, he’ll be a star soon
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Jul. 27, 2022 at 11:04 p.m.
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firstborn child underrated af, he’ll be a star soon


He is the second coming of future considerations
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Jul. 27, 2022 at 11:36 p.m.
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K making a free agent game cause bored

Where do we think Kadri signs, how long's the deal, and how much he getting

Gonna say he signs a 1 year 8mill deal with the Ducks

But man just pls sign already man this just getting ridiculous lul
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Jul. 27, 2022 at 11:46 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
K making a free agent game cause bored

Where do we think Kadri signs, how long's the deal, and how much he getting

Gonna say he signs a 1 year 8mill deal with the Ducks

But man just pls sign already man this just getting ridiculous lul


6.125 mill x 5 . Colorado
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Jul. 27, 2022 at 11:47 p.m.
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6.125 mill x 5 . Colorado


I thought he would go back but the problem becomes MacKinnon that guys getting paid big time and I dont think they can afford to keep both.
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Jul. 28, 2022 at 12:10 a.m.
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Edited Jul. 28, 2022 at 10:57 a.m.
Cap space per team

Anaheim Ducks
Cap Space: 25.8M
RFAs: None

Arizona Coyotes
Cap Space: 23.1M
RFAs: Hayton, Crouse

Boston Bruins
Cap space: 4.8M
RFAs: Zacha
UFAs: Bergeron

Buffalo Sabres
Cap Space: 19.6M (1 LTIR)
RFAs: None

Calgary Flames
Cap Space: 9.3M
RFAs: Mangiapane, Kylington

Carolina Hurricanes
Cap Space: 1.9M
RFAs: Necas

Chicago Blackhawks
Cap Space: 10.6M
RFAs: Jones, Kurashev

Colorado Avalanche
Cap Space: 3.9M
RFAs: None

Columbus Blue Jackets
Cap Space: -900k
RFAs: Bemstrom

Dallas Stars
Cap Space: 11.5M
RFAs: Robertson, Oettinger

Detroit Red Wings
Cap Space: 10.3M
RFAs: Zadina, Walman

Edmonton Oilers
Cap Space: 3.5M (2 LTIR)
RFAs: Yamamoto, McLeod

Florida Panthers
Cap Space: -3.4M
RFAs: None

Los Angeles Kings
Cap Space: 1.5M
RFAs: Anderson, Durzi

Minnesota Wild
Cap Space: 4.3M
RFAs: None

Montreal Canadiens
Cap Space: 200k
RFAs: Dach

Nashville Predators
Cap Space: 4.1M
RFAs: Trenin

New Jersey Devils
Cap Space: 12.9M (1 LTIR)
RFAs: Bratt, Wood

New York Islanders
Cap Space: 11.2M
RFAs: Bellows, Dobson, Romanov

New York Rangers
Cap Space: 1.8M
RFAs: None

Ottawa Senators
Cap Space: 10.9M
RFAs: Joseph, Formenton, Brannstrom

Philadelphia Flyers
Cap Space: -100k
RFAs: MacEwen, Tippett

Pittsburgh Penguins
Cap Space: -1.5M
RFAs: None

San Jose Sharks
Cap Space: 2.0M
RFAs: Gregor, Gadjovich, Ferraro

Seattle Kraken
Cap Space: 2M
RFAs: None

St. Louis Blues
Cap Space: 600k
RFAs: None

Tampa Bay Lightning
Cap Space: -200k (1 LTIR)
RFAs: None

Toronto Maple Leafs
Cap Space: -1.5M
RFAs: Sandin

Vancouver Canucks
Cap Space: 800k (1 LTIR)
RFAs: None

Vegas Golden Knights
Cap Space: -1.5M (1 LTIR)
RFAs: Roy, Kolesar, Hague

Washington Capitals
Cap Space: 10.7M (3 LTIR)
RFAs: None

Winnipeg Jets
Cap Space: 8.5M
RFAs: Appleton


There are 2 big name free agents left
Nazem Kadri (projected 8M)
John Klingberg (projected 6M)

Teams that can fit either
Anaheim Ducks
Arizona Coyotes
Buffalo Sabres
Chicago Blackhawks
Detroit Red Wings
New York Islanders
Ottawa Senators
Washington Capitals (depends on Backstrom LTIR)
WInnipeg Jets


Teams that don't need to make any moves to clear cap
Anaheim Ducks
Arizona Coyotes
Buffalo Sabres
Calgary Flames
Chicago Blackhawks
Colorado Avalanche
Columbus Blue Jackets
Detroit Red Wings
Edmonton Oilers
Minnesota Wild
Nashville Predators
New Jersey Devils
New York Islanders
New York Rangers
Ottawa Senators
Philadelphia Flyers
Seattle Kraken
St. Louis Blues
Tampa Bay Lightning
Vancouver Canucks
Washington Capitals
Winnipeg Jets


Teams that need to make a move to clear cap space
Boston Bruins
Carolina Hurricanes
Dallas Stars
Florida Panthers
Los Angeles Kings
Montreal Canadiens
Pittsburgh Penguins
San Jose Sharks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Vegas Golden Knights


Let me know if I forgot any players on LTIR or messed up with the math
Jul. 28, 2022 at 12:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Devil
Let me know if I forgot any players on LTIR or messed up with the math


Excellent job. The only thing I notice off the top of my head is that the Ducks and Sabres are supposed to have LTIR relief as well (Kesler and Bishop, respectively).
Jul. 28, 2022 at 12:28 a.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
Excellent job. The only thing I notice off the top of my head is that the Ducks and Sabres are supposed to have LTIR relief as well (Kesler and Bishop, respectively).


I fixed it for Bishop (he was already calculated into the Salary but I forgot to mention it)

I believe Kesler's contract is up
Jul. 28, 2022 at 12:37 a.m.
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I fixed it for Bishop (he was already calculated into the Salary but I forgot to mention it)

I believe Kesler's contract is up

Duke gives the Cats 3mil for like half the season at least (relevant for opening night)
Jul. 28, 2022 at 12:38 a.m.
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One more reason for Kadri and Klingberg to sign already: I'm working on my Top 250 fantasy rankings for 2022-23, it's 98% complete (thank goodness for Excel spreadsheets smile) but I can't finalize it until they sign. Also, if another big name player (namely Patrick Kane) is going to get traded, now would be a good time.
Jul. 28, 2022 at 12:54 a.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
One more reason for Kadri and Klingberg to sign already: I'm working on my Top 250 fantasy rankings for 2022-23, it's 98% complete (thank goodness for Excel spreadsheets smile) but I can't finalize it until they sign. Also, if another big name player (namely Patrick Kane) is going to get traded, now would be a good time.

Do you do this statistically or subjectively?
Jul. 28, 2022 at 8:31 a.m.
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Guys, the Habs have acquired an island…

Robidas Island
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Jul. 28, 2022 at 8:48 a.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Guys, the Habs have acquired an island…

Robidas Island


thought they where supposed to make a slash in fa
Jul. 28, 2022 at 8:53 a.m.
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thought they where supposed to make a slash in fa


Hughes said he would not like 2 weeks before free agency... not sure if there's a better source than that
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Jul. 28, 2022 at 8:53 a.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Guys, the Habs have acquired an island…

Robidas Island


Joke worthy of an infraction imo
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Jul. 28, 2022 at 8:57 a.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Hughes said he would not like 2 weeks before free agency... not sure if there's a better source than that


oh, didnt know that, my bad
Jul. 28, 2022 at 9:25 a.m.
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oh, didnt know that, my bad


https://www.google.com/amp/s/awinninghabit.com/2022/05/06/montreal-canadiens-kent-hughes-doesnt-think-habs-will-top-free-agents/amp/

He said it tons of times
Jul. 28, 2022 at 9:45 a.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
https://www.google.com/amp/s/awinninghabit.com/2022/05/06/montreal-canadiens-kent-hughes-doesnt-think-habs-will-top-free-agents/amp/

He said it tons of times


i dont follow the habs and the i remembered him saying he would a long time ago. but i didnt know he updated his idea
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Jul. 28, 2022 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
thought they where supposed to make a slash in fa


they never had the cap to do anything with.
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Jul. 28, 2022 at 10:20 a.m.
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I heard he can play against men
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