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Created by: TheRealisticGuy

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 11, 2023

Published: Jan. 12, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Edmundson isn't traded at the 2023 TDL because Kent Hughes can't get a 2023 1st round pick for Eddy. With Guhle injury, Edmundson remains with the team and will be dealt at the 2024 TDL
Monahan is being dealt at the 2023 TDL. Drouin & Dadonov too if there is a buyer. If we can't use the 3 retention slots on Monahan, Drouin & Dadonov, we could retained as a 3rd team on rentals only

Draft day : MTL draft outside of the top 5, probably 6-7-8. I would expect them to draft Dalibor Dvorsky with their own 2023 1st round pick and draft Sandin Pellikka with FLO 1st round pick (around 15)

Laval Rocket :

Farrell-Richard-Roy
Heineman-Mesar-Simoneau
Gignac-Kidney-Belzile
Condotta-Mysak-Teasdale
Veteran

Beaudin-Barron
Struble-Dello
Fairbrother-Mailloux
Trudeau

Portillo
Dobes

Players on the taxi squad goes back in their respective league (Beck CHL the 3 others overseas)

I expect MTL to trade Joel Edmundson & Mike Hoffman at the 2024 TDL while retaining 50% of their salary

Line up after the 2024 TDL :

Caufield-Suzuki-Dach
Slafkovsky-Pageau-Anderson
Comtois-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP/Ylönen-Evans-Armia

Guhle-Savard
Harris-Kovacevic
Xhekaj-Barron
Wideman

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Farrell, Sean	2	$950,000
Portillo, Erik	1	$950,000
Dobes, Jakub	2	$897,500
Struble, Jayden	2	$863,333
Simoneau, Xavier	2	$828,333

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Caufield, Cole	8	$7,875,000
Comtois, Maxime	1	$2,445,000
Harris, Jordan	2	$1,700,000
Ylönen, Jesse	2	$850,000
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël	2	$850,000
Richard, Anthony	1	$775,000
Beaudin, Nicolas	1	$775,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Dvorsky, Dalibor		3	$950,000
Sandin Pellikka, Axel		3	$950,000

Trades

MTL

Comtois, Maxime [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

Change of scenery for Comtois
Draft day trade

ANA

Pitlick, Rem
2023 4th round pick (VGK)

Additional Details:

Change of scenery for Pitlick
ANA gets a 2023 pick

MTL

Trineyev, Bogdan

Additional Details:

Only a B prospect because of Matheson cap hit a little high
Trade made during the 2023 Offseason

WSH

Matheson, Michael

Additional Details:

WSH are staying competitive and Matheson could replace Orlov (Matheson is younger with 3 years left on his deal)

MTL

Portillo, Erik [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

Good goalie prospect who isn't signing with BUF

BUF

Tuch, Luke [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

Alex brother, former 2nd round pick who plays a gritty game

MTL

Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
2024 1st round pick (NYI)

Additional Details:

JGP could waive for MTL
MTL didn't win the lottery so they draft outside the top 5 (means no center NHL ready). They could use JPG as a stop gap while taking a good asset (pick). Without a high pick, we wouldn't be interested

NYI

Montembeault, Samuel

Additional Details:

This trade will make room for Aatu Raty and free up 4M in cap space while receiving a cheap back up goaltender. The pick going to MTL would be top 10 protected

MTL

Uncondional waivers for purpose of contract termination

ARI

Norlinder, Mattias

Additional Details:

Norlinder didn't worked out, he goes back in Sweden

MTL

Boltmann, Jake [Reserve List]

CGY

Pezzetta, Michael [RFA Rights]

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$69,371,666	$1,170,000	$3,920,000	$14,128,334

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $7,875,000$7,875,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3
Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel $5,000,000$5,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Comtois, Maxime $2,445,000$2,445,000 LW RFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Harris, Jordan $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD/RD RFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden $890,000$890,000 G RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $850,000$850,000 LW, RW RFA - 2		Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Ylönen, Jesse $850,000$850,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Dvorsky, Dalibor $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
Sandin Pellikka, Axel $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
Beck, Owen $885,000$885,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($80,000$80K) C RFA - 3
Trineyev, Bogdan $859,167$859,167 ($0$0$0$0) ($57,500$58K) RW RFA - 2

Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.

slapshot723

NYI

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Pageau has been great lately. We're not cap dumping him.

Would MTL do Armia, Montembeault, and a 2nd for Beauvillier in the off-season?

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:23 p.m.

YTSnipeCity

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Id go for Levi in Buffalo, much higher ceiling IMO. We're also not trading Matheson after one year, especially if Edmundson goes

Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:23 p.m.

asauer1122

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sabres say yes

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.

asauer1122

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Quoting: YTSnipeCity

Id go for Levi in Buffalo, much higher ceiling IMO. We're also not trading Matheson after one year, especially if Edmundson goes

levi wont happen. sabres decline

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.

GiggywithGibby

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Anaheim declines, Comtois is at least an NHL player, Pitlick has had changes of scenery multiple times and he can't make it stick.

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.

ClockReads2113

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I think the Caps trade is fine but I think they will just end up re-signing Orlov which would leave no room for Matheson.

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.

TheRealisticGuy

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Habs4Ever

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Quoting: slapshot723

Pageau has been great lately. We're not cap dumping him.

Would MTL do Armia, Montembeault, and a 2nd for Beauvillier in the off-season?

Fair enough for Pageau, I should have done a post on the proposition only before making this AGM

For Beauvillier, we aren't welling to give you draft pick or prospect for him
I doubt we have wingers you would be welling to swap for, maybe Hoffman half retained vs Beauvillier

Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.

homiedaclown

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Quoting: YTSnipeCity

Id go for Levi in Buffalo, much higher ceiling IMO. We're also not trading Matheson after one year, especially if Edmundson goes

Sabres aren’t trading Levi, so keep dreaming

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.

GeneralLandro

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We just keep Comtois and bet on him working and regaining form with our new HC next season

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:47 p.m.

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Ross_Johnston

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Quoting: slapshot723

Pageau has been great lately. We're not cap dumping him.

Would MTL do Armia, Montembeault, and a 2nd for Beauvillier in the off-season?

for colorado's second but not their early 2nd this year

Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:47 p.m.

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Ross_Johnston

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

We just keep Comtois and bet on him working and regaining form with our new HC next season

rip Dallas Eakins

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:56 p.m.

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GeneralLandro

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Quoting: stephane_robidas

rip Dallas Eakins

Looking forward to him being gone

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 2:59 p.m.

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Db1899

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Quoting: slapshot723

Pageau has been great lately. We're not cap dumping him.

Would MTL do Armia, Montembeault, and a 2nd for Beauvillier in the off-season?

Pageau has not been great, mediocre is more accurate , but he has enough value to return a 3rd or 4th rd pick

Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: slapshot723

Pageau has been great lately. We're not cap dumping him.

Would MTL do Armia, Montembeault, and a 2nd for Beauvillier in the off-season?

The islanders aren’t trading Beau for a guy who isn’t half the player Cal Clutterbuck was in his prime.

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: Db1899

Pageau has not been great, mediocre is more accurate , but he has enough value to return a 3rd or 4th rd pick

He’s been fine, but he has to stop throwing the puck away. This whole team picked up bad habits under trotz. Bailey was much better against Dallas imo because he wasn’t just throwing the puck away the entire game.

Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy

No team is paying to dump a productive player on a reasonable contract. Pageau’s contract issues were very overstated when he came back from his wrist injury last year. I’ll be the first one to tell you that was a mistake. Hell I was worried about Pulock for no good reason. The isles would be fine rn if they had Pelech. That’s the only issue that would keep them out of the playoffs imo.

Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.

#17

rosenj

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Matheson has looked good for us and we absolutely will not be trading him because Kent gave up a pretty big package for him and likes him. Also Isles decline, and Primeau is not an NHL calibre goalie.

Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:43 p.m.

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Db1899

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Quoting: Isles5513

He gets top line minutes and has 1 even strength goal in 529 min of ice time. Not acceptable

Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: Db1899

He gets top line minutes and has 1 even strength goal in 529 min of ice time. Not acceptable

You mean Bailey right? I agree his play isn’t acceptable.

Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.

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Db1899

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Quoting: Isles5513

You mean Bailey right? I agree his play isn’t acceptable.

Pageau lol. Bailey has been awful, Pageau has been mediocre

Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: rosenj

Petry and Poehling for Matheson and a fourth was an absolute steal by Montreal. Not sure if it reflects well on Hughes or it’s just about how bad Hextall is tho lol. Montreal is in a weird spot cause they’ve done well in the late rounds recently, but their past first round picks have been kinda suspect. Slafkovsky might’ve been a reach and Mallioux isn’t even allowed to play rn. I like Mesar tho!

Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: Db1899

Pageau lol. Bailey has been awful, Pageau has been mediocre

Oh I see. I didn’t think he got top line minutes tbh. I think his best game this year was in Calgary when Barzal was out. He played way more freely with the puck then, and when Barzal plays he gets this idea his only role is defensive.

Jan. 12, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: Db1899

Pageau lol. Bailey has been awful, Pageau has been mediocre

I feel like most of the bottom six acts like they don’t know what to do with the puck once they get it, and it’s because trotz only used them in a defensive role during his time on the island. In part it was because they didn’t have the talent too back then.

Jan. 12, 2023 at 4:09 p.m.

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TheRealisticGuy

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Quoting: rosenj

Petry and Matheson were both cap dumps

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 7:08 p.m.

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qc14

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Would think the caps would still prefer to bring Orlov back, but don't hate that move from their perspective at all if other things don't go their way

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