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Created by: Acegamer
Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 28, 2023
Published: Jan. 28, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
How do we go all in but also secure our future at center.
Trades
1.
BOS
  1. Horvat, Bo ($2,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Vancouver gets a 2023 1st, a top 6 power forward and a great defensive prospect.
VAN
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Smith, Craig
  3. Zboril, Jakub
  4. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Boston gets their future center. Would have to sign an extension to make this trade.
2.
BOS
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Big price to pay. But need Kane to replace JD’s goals.
CHI
  1. Lysell, Fabian
  2. Reilly, Mike
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Rumor is this is the price. But added Reilly’s contract to make it work on the cap.
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$72,591,667$0$4,650,000$9,908,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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-$2,625,000-$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$2,000,000$2M)
C
NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC, NMC
UFA - 8
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,687,500$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 2
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
G
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 28, 2023 at 8:27 a.m.
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Canucks aren't doing that
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 8:32 a.m.
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Zobril was drafted 2 years after horvat. How is he a prospect?
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 8:33 a.m.
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You will regret that Chicago trade big time
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 8:39 a.m.
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Kane is on pace for 16 goals this year. DeBrusk already has 16 goals this year. Kane isn't replacing DeBrusk goal scoring.
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 8:40 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Canucks pass easily
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 8:50 a.m.
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Not what the Canucks are looking for
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:16 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Canucks pass easily


Debrusk alone has more value than horvat. Contracts matter.
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:17 a.m.
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Well you’ve made the team worse. All to grab a player that isn’t remotely needed. I do think you’ve created a pathway to make cap space for both horvat and pasta next year, so it’s not an F-. We’ll say F+. Still a really bad concept but there’s some creativity here.
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:19 a.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Kane is on pace for 16 goals this year. DeBrusk already has 16 goals this year. Kane isn't replacing DeBrusk goal scoring.


Kanes point totals are down this year, but that's a product of Chicago rebuilding. There isn't much talent on Chicago's roster for Kane to play with.

Moving to a new team, playing meaningful hockey with offensively minded players... Kane will score points.

But Kane has to change his number in Boston so for that reason I say the trade probably doesn't work.
Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:27 a.m.
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Edited Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:14 a.m.
Quoting: BankersBox
Kanes point totals are down this year, but that's a product of Chicago rebuilding. There isn't much talent on Chicago's roster for Kane to play with.

Moving to a new team, playing meaningful hockey with offensively minded players... Kane will score points.

But Kane has to change his number in Boston so for that reason I say the trade probably doesn't work.


No it isn’t. It’s a product of him playing through an injury and shooting 5%. Guys like Max Domi and Taylor Raddish are putting up numbers there. Timo Meier, Bo Horvat, Clayton Keller, Nick Suzuki, J. gaudreau, Laine, Troy Terry put up big numbers on bad teams. It’s not the team.

Any trade for Kane does not work because he is the exact opposite of what they need, has nothing to do with a number.
Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:29 a.m.
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Edited Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:09 a.m.
Kane is not worth half that and a terrible fit.

As stated above, you made the team worse to add someone not currently needed and not what Van is looking for at all.

Still will have to shed salary in the offseason to sign Bo and Pasta.

Doesn’t work, at all.
Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:39 a.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Debrusk alone has more value than horvat. Contracts matter.


I gasped
Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:48 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I gasped


The notion that contracts matter is news to you?
Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
The notion that contracts matter is news to you?


They don't matter that much
Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:11 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
They don't matter that much


When horvat isn’t on a shooting percentage bender, they’re pretty close in performance. Ya, they matter plenty.
Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:13 a.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
When horvat isn’t on a shooting percentage bender, they’re pretty close in performance. Ya, they matter plenty.


Well I don't agree with that statement
Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:15 a.m.
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I don’t see why Chicago shouldn’t do this

I like Lysell a lot
Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:20 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Well I don't agree with that statement


That’s fair. Likely haven’t been watching debrusk much the last year. He’s been ripping it up. If horvat is just at his career shooting percentage, debrusk is out scoring him this season.
Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:20 a.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
I don’t see why Chicago shouldn’t do this

I like Lysell a lot


Its a homerun for Chicago
Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
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Quoting: BankersBox
Kanes point totals are down this year, but that's a product of Chicago rebuilding. There isn't much talent on Chicago's roster for Kane to play with.

Moving to a new team, playing meaningful hockey with offensively minded players... Kane will score points.

But Kane has to change his number in Boston so for that reason I say the trade probably doesn't work.

Debrusk is better than kane at this point in their careers. I’ll say it. Maybe he’s hurt, maybe he’s washed, but kane isn’t the same.
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:23 a.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
That’s fair. Likely haven’t been watching debrusk much the last year. He’s been ripping it up. If horvat is just at his career shooting percentage, debrusk is out scoring him this season.


Nice of you to throw out horvats outlier year but pump up debrusks

He also is one year from ufa
Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:28 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Nice of you to throw out horvats outlier year but pump up debrusks

He also is one year from ufa


Oh I’m aware of his contract believe it or not. A year and a couple months is a lot better than a couple months.

Debrusk isn’t having a shooting % outlier. Might be up a fraction, accounting for a goal, but nothing major. Debrusk basically forgot how to play hockey during hte pandemic. Prior to it, he was really good, after it, he was really good. During it, he was a fourth line scrub begging for a trade. He was the same player for calendar 2022, this doesn’t seem like an outlier.

You knew all that, right? I get the sense that youre being obtuse intentionally
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:46 a.m.
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“Great defensive prospect” might be the funniest way I’ve heard someone describe Zboril.
Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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The usual silliness about an extension for Horvat, but fails to show how his 5m pay increases (from this post retention fits into the Bruins cap next season.
Jan. 28, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.
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These are horrible for BOS, both for this season and in the future.
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