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Raty Raty Raty

Created by: Prime_Jimbo
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 30, 2023
Published: Jan. 30, 2023
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
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Wow. Allvin with the stone cold stunner.

I did not expect to see a very good center prospect in return, let alone from NYI, and their first.
Trades
VAN
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Räty, Aatu
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Horvat, Bo
Buyouts
  • Braden Holtby: $1,900,000
  • Jake Virtanen: $500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Bo Horvat: $1,375,000 (25%)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$82,025,834$1,250,000$1,232,500$474,166
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Kuzmenko, Andrei
$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Pettersson, Elias
$7,350,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Boeser, Brock
$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Räty, Aatu
$836,667
C
RFA - 3
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Garland, Conor
$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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Höglander, Nils
$891,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Dries, Sheldon
$762,500
C
UFA - 2
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Beauvillier, Anthony
$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Joshua, Dakota
$825,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Lazar, Curtis
$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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Studnicka, Jack
$762,500
RW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Hughes, Quinn
$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 5
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Bear, Ethan
$1,800,000
RD
RFA - 1
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Martin, Spencer
$762,500
G
UFA - 2
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Schenn, Luke
$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Delia, Collin
$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Myers, Tyler
$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Burroughs, Kyle
$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Demko, Thatcher
$5,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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Ferland, Micheal
$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Stillman, Riley
$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Poolman, Tucker
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Pearson, Tanner
$3,250,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Lockwood, William
$750,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 30 at 5:55 p.m.
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So are we going to get a whole bunch of spin zone from canucks fans that were expecting the world for horvat?
Jan. 30 at 5:57 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
So are we going to get a whole bunch of spin zone from canucks fans that were expecting the world for horvat?


This is a huge return.
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Jan. 30 at 5:58 p.m.
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This is a huge return.


1. No need to tell me three times.
2. It’s about 30%-40% of what most canucks fans were predicting, but very reasonable and in line with what those with a functioning brain that have seen previous deadlines expected.
3. Does this mean that the answer is yes? We’re getting the spin zone?
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Jan. 30 at 6:03 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
1. No need to tell me three times.
2. It’s about 30%-40% of what most canucks fans were predicting, but very reasonable and in line with what those with a functioning brain that have seen previous deadlines expected.
3. Does this mean that the answer is yes? We’re getting the spin zone?


Not a Canucks fan, but let’s get spinning! I’m just excited to be done with the Byram+Newhook+1st for Horvat+Schenn posts
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Jan. 30 at 6:06 p.m.
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Quoting: turtlemountain
Not a Canucks fan, but let’s get spinning! I’m just excited to be done with the Byram+Newhook+1st for Horvat+Schenn posts


or Girard Newhook 1sts.

We are FREE!!!!
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Jan. 30 at 6:07 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
1. No need to tell me three times.
2. It’s about 30%-40% of what most canucks fans were predicting, but very reasonable and in line with what those with a functioning brain that have seen previous deadlines expected.
3. Does this mean that the answer is yes? We’re getting the spin zone?


I’d really love to hear from Lou and Alvin about what they each think Raty’s ceiling is. I bet we get 2 different answers
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Jan. 30 at 6:09 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
I’d really love to hear from Lou and Alvin about what they each think Raty’s ceiling is. I bet we get 2 different answers


And i just can’t wait for the spin zone from the canucks. By the end of the day raty will be a sure fire hall of a famer.
Jan. 30 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: turtlemountain
Not a Canucks fan, but let’s get spinning! I’m just excited to be done with the Byram+Newhook+1st for Horvat+Schenn posts


As a bruins fan - same. No more of the, “hey, the bruins are gonna trade roster pieces for a center even though they don’t need a center. And their will be an extension even though they don’t have cap for extension so this will be the biggest deadline trade in league history!”
Jan. 30 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
And i just can’t wait for the spin zone from the canucks. By the end of the day raty will be a sure fire hall of a famer.


Honestly I’m just shocked this trade value wasn’t done with an extension
Jan. 30 at 6:11 p.m.
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Honestly I’m just shocked this trade value wasn’t done with an extension


Think back to lindholm and stone. The news of an extension came out when the player was still on the plane.

But this is standard for a rental. 1st, a “meh,” roster player for cap purposes, and a good, but not great prospect.
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Jan. 30 at 6:13 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
So are we going to get a whole bunch of spin zone from canucks fans that were expecting the world for horvat?


If this is "the world" then we got what we wanted. This is a pretty reasonable return and its almost on par with most of what we have been asking for. The one or two left field big asks don't constitute what the realistic return is.
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Jan. 30 at 6:16 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Think back to lindholm and stone. The news of an extension came out when the player was still on the plane.

But this is standard for a rental. 1st, a “meh,” roster player for cap purposes, and a good, but not great prospect.


I think Raty has 2nd line potential
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Jan. 30 at 6:17 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
I think Raty has 2nd line potential


Sure. That’s a good not great prospect.
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Jan. 30 at 6:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior
If this is "the world" then we got what we wanted. This is a pretty reasonable return and its almost on par with most of what we have been asking for. The one or two left field big asks don't constitute what the realistic return is.


It’s a fraction of what canucks fans were posting here.

Based on the ACGMs and trades canucks fans were posting, they should be miserable with this return. I’m guessing they’ll all lie to themselves and have beauvillier being a point per game player and raty a future hall of famer by nights end.
Jan. 30 at 6:22 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
It’s a fraction of what canucks fans were posting here.

Based on the ACGMs and trades canucks fans were posting, they should be miserable with this return. I’m guessing they’ll all lie to themselves and have beauvillier being a point per game player and raty a future hall of famer by nights end.


Last night I made a trade of Panik + Wahlstrom + 1st for Bo 50% retained. I'd say this trade is even better than that one for us.
Jan. 30 at 6:22 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
or Girard Newhook 1sts.

We are FREE!!!!


Quoting: coga16
or Girard Newhook 1sts.

We are FREE!!!!


Sounds like a reasonable return for Adam Henrique. I’ll even retain 50%. Thanks!
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Jan. 30 at 6:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Last night I made a trade of Panik + Wahlstrom + 1st for Bo 50% retained. I'd say this trade is even better than that one for us.


You’re the rarity apparently. Most were carlo + lysell + first…insanity. Or Newhook/Byram + 1st + something. Also insanity.
Jan. 30 at 6:24 p.m.
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So are we going to get a whole bunch of spin zone from canucks fans that were expecting the world for horvat?


This is way more than I expected
Jan. 30 at 6:26 p.m.
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Podkolzin Raty Hoglander is going to be a very good line
Jan. 30 at 6:27 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
It’s a fraction of what canucks fans were posting here.

Based on the ACGMs and trades canucks fans were posting, they should be miserable with this return. I’m guessing they’ll all lie to themselves and have beauvillier being a point per game player and raty a future hall of famer by nights end.


Obviously some morons posted some bad offers but by in large this return is actually more than I expected. I battled people constantly that said he wouldn't get a 1st, b prospect, 3rd level value. This blows that out of the water.
Jan. 30 at 6:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Sounds like a reasonable return for Adam Henrique. I’ll even retain 50%. Thanks!


Brock nelson is my new offseason trade target, islanders will extend Bo and then move him.
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Jan. 30 at 6:29 p.m.
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Obviously some morons posted some bad offers but by in large this return is actually more than I expected. I battled people constantly that said he wouldn't get a 1st, b prospect, 3rd level value. This blows that out of the water.


Is it though? I’m not sure beauvillier has positive value, and is raty more than a B prospect? That’s debatable
Jan. 30 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
As a bruins fan - same. No more of the, “hey, the bruins are gonna trade roster pieces for a center even though they don’t need a center. And their will be an extension even though they don’t have cap for extension so this will be the biggest deadline trade in league history!”


I'm curious why you come to a section of a specific site dedicated to making roster moves/trade proposals, while simultaneously being pissed off by the same...
Jan. 30 at 6:31 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
So are we going to get a whole bunch of spin zone from canucks fans that were expecting the world for horvat?


Beauvillier is an underwhelming piece but this deal tells me Canucks ownership did not want to retain on Bo.

The pick is also intriguing because I don't see how NYI re-signs Bo and if the pick rolls into 2024, it has potential to be a top 3-5. NYI is an aging group.

It also tells me Van ownership is okay with a couple years vs immediately trying to win next year and that is refreshing. The timing also speaks to tank asap.
Jan. 30 at 6:31 p.m.
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So are we going to get a whole bunch of spin zone from canucks fans that were expecting the world for horvat?


This is a pretty darn good return. Especially since that pick is likely top 15 as the Isles aren't even a playoff team. Better than getting something like the 32nd overall pick from Boston.
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