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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #12: Judgement Day Approaches

Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Pompadour_de_Armstrong
Vrana to Blues?


For a 7th and a roster contract.

Reclamation projects! With gigantic cap hits.

I have hope for anybody who enters player assistance. The reasons are all things a human can overcome. It’s good that the nhl provides this, because without help a human may be overwhelmed by those types of things. This could just be an AHL move to push Springfield up the standings and give the group a winning environment.
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:45 a.m.
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Lou needs to be put in prison if he doesn’t trade varlamov


Extension, 3mil 8 years
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:47 a.m.
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Gonna point to this if anyone ever says that CF users couldn't make better roster management decisions than real life GMs.
Absolutely shocking if there's any truth to this.





NHL bottom 12 teams and # of 1st + 2nd round picks they have in 2023 draft

CLB - 3
CHI - 6
ANA - 4
SJS - 3
ARZ - 3
VAN - 1
MTL - 3
PHL - 1
STL - 3
DET - 5
WSH - 2
NSH - 4
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Tintin
Gonna point to this if anyone ever says that CF users couldn't make better roster management decisions than real life GMs.
Absolutely shocking if there's any truth to this.




This is almost as bad as the Habs turning down a first round pick for Josh Anderson. Crazy idea: the Canucks take those picks and go trade for another center 😭
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Tintin
Gonna point to this if anyone ever says that CF users couldn't make better roster management decisions than real life GMs.
Absolutely shocking if there's any truth to this.




Yeah they need a center. His name is Bo Horvat
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 10:18 a.m.
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Extension, 3mil 8 years


He’ll also do something stupid like trade for edmundson or Stanley
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
Lou needs to be put in prison if he doesn’t trade varlamov


he needed to be in prison long ago
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
He’ll also do something stupid like trade for edmundson or Stanley


How about JT Miller? Veteran prescence that bolsters the offense
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 10:48 a.m.
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He’ll also do something stupid like trade for edmundson or Stanley


I have such a feeling of existential dread, 3 PM can't come soon enough. I'm almost fine standing pat at this point; I feel a little better about their playoff odds since all the teams behind them seem dead-set against taking advantage of the games in hand they had. But there's really nothing left out there that makes sense to spend big on (mayyyybe JVR can be had for next to nothing since they can add him without retention?)

I truly hope that Lou just uses his cap space as an asset today and maybe snags back a couple picks to start replenishing the cupboard, but I feel like he thinks he's above that kind of move.
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.
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Ok now I have no idea what Davidson is doing

Is he trying replicate “the process” in the nhl or is he just a terrible negotiator
Mar. 3, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
I have such a feeling of existential dread, 3 PM can't come soon enough. I'm almost fine standing pat at this point; I feel a little better about their playoff odds since all the teams behind them seem dead-set against taking advantage of the games in hand they had. But there's really nothing left out there that makes sense to spend big on (mayyyybe JVR can be had for next to nothing since they can add him without retention?)

I truly hope that Lou just uses his cap space as an asset today and maybe snags back a couple picks to start replenishing the cupboard, but I feel like he thinks he's above that kind of move.


Yeah Lou has too much of an ego to sell. He’s a pr*ck
Mar. 3, 2023 at 10:51 a.m.
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How about JT Miller? Veteran prescence that bolsters the offense


Not tall enough
Mar. 3, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.
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Give me some Montreal Trades please. Get Edmundson + Drouin + Dvorak off of my team.
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 10:58 a.m.
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Does Toronto like kinda have to move a defenseman due to waiver status or something? They have 9 on the roster right now. That seems silly.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:02 a.m.
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Give me some Montreal Trades please. Get Edmundson + Drouin + Dvorak off of my team.


We'll be late for trades most likely. A lot of big buyers are gone and our tradeable players are what's left in the bin on clearance at the end of the day.
Dvorak should probably stay. We'll get more value from him as a rental in his final year than we will moving him now with his full contract. That's not the worst thing, because we can still use him.
Edmundson should be moved simply to clear some room at LD.
Drouin will be sent somewhere for whatever we can get, assuming we still have the retention spot available and there's still a buyer.
Hoffman's performance last night cemented that he's only really functional on the PP and as a shooter. Don't see him going without retention, but if we can avoid retaining on Edmundson, I'd use a spot to move him as well. Don't see any obvious destinations remaining for him however.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
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This is almost as bad as the Habs turning down a first round pick for Josh Anderson. Crazy idea: the Canucks take those picks and go trade for another center 😭


It's really not that crazy, whether fans like it or not, Anderson has value, now that value is almost solely based on the demand on Anderson and the desperation of the GM to add someone who does what Anderson does but it's value nonetheless.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:05 a.m.
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We'll be late for trades most likely. A lot of big buyers are gone and our tradeable players are what's left in the bin on clearance at the end of the day.
Dvorak should probably stay. We'll get more value from him as a rental in his final year than we will moving him now with his full contract. That's not the worst thing, because we can still use him.
Edmundson should be moved simply to clear some room at LD.
Drouin will be sent somewhere for whatever we can get, assuming we still have the retention spot available and there's still a buyer.
Hoffman's performance last night cemented that he's only really functional on the PP and as a shooter. Don't see him going without retention, but if we can avoid retaining on Edmundson, I'd use a spot to move him as well. Don't see any obvious destinations remaining for him however.


At this point, I think our TDL was adding Gurianov, there's not much else that "needs" to be done, if someone wants Drouin/Monahan like sure move em but Edmundson's probably staying, he has a year left anyways, probably more of an offseason move
Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
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Does Toronto like kinda have to move a defenseman due to waiver status or something? They have 9 on the roster right now. That seems silly.


Holl+pick for Sheary.

It's bound to happen.
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:16 a.m.
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Oh damn I just realized:

Detroit ate 2.6 mil off the cap next year with Vrana retention.

Ouch. Ya gotta fall pretty far when 2.6 million is worth a 7th.
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.
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Oh damn I just realized:

Detroit ate 2.6 mil off the cap next year with Vrana retention.

Ouch.


That was probably the cost to not need to dump Vrana, retain part of his contract, in the end, the Vrana trade made sense for both teams
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.
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Funny thought, but trading Girard++ for Duchene sounds somewhat sensible to me, considering the status of each team.

tears of joy let's redo the massive thing that happened few years ago.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
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do not Devil my ass
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SOMEONE GET BILL ARMSTRONG ON THE PHONE I HAVE SOME FRESH LTIR FOR HIM TO ENJOYYYY


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Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: A2023tdlGuesses
Oh damn I just realized:

Detroit ate 2.6 mil off the cap next year with Vrana retention.

Ouch. Ya gotta fall pretty far when 2.6 million is worth a 7th.


Yeah, especially considering the buyout cost would have been less - would've been $1.4M next year and $1.9M in 2024-25. I dunno, I'd rather eat $3.3M spread over 2 years than $2.6M over one if all that I'm gonna get out of it is a 7th rounder, ya know? Must have become real toxic real fast in Detroit.
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: A2023tdlGuesses

I have hope for anybody who enters player assistance. The reasons are all things a human can overcome. It’s good that the nhl provides this, because without help a human may be overwhelmed by those types of things. This could just be an AHL move to push Springfield up the standings and give the group a winning environment.


I was just surprised they found a taker since he has term, even at 50%. Things had obviously soured in Detroit, and there are off-ice concerns. Good luck to him.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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leaf trade where
 
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