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2022-23 NHL Playoff Discussion Thread #2: Ryan Suter is the biggest bird

May 25, 2023 at 9:34 a.m.
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This Bob vs Thachuk debate is idiotic. They wouldn’t be here without either of them. You could say either one is MVP and you’d be right.
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May 25, 2023 at 9:46 a.m.
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This Bob vs Thachuk debate is idiotic. They wouldn’t be here without either of them. You could say either one is MVP and you’d be right.


It's still a pretty close race for the Conn Smythe and anything can happen in 4+ games.

Vegas has a few possible candidates. Eichel and Stone are leading, but Marchessault, Stephenson and Barbeshev are all in a position to take the lead if they show out in the finals.

Florida's obvious leader's are Bob and Tkachuk. But because Tkachuk is a skater not a goalie, a face of the league, and is a big story because he just arrived in Florida, he seems like he will get the edge over Bob if they both remain neck and neck. Verhaeghe and Barkov are the only one's who could catch either of those two, although they are a ways behind and I don't see Chuk or Bob having a drop off in play vs Vegas.
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May 25, 2023 at 9:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Steven_Stamkos
It's still a pretty close race for the Conn Smythe and anything can happen in 4+ games.

Vegas has a few possible candidates. Eichel and Stone are leading, but Marchessault, Stephenson and Barbeshev are all in a position to take the lead if they show out in the finals.

Florida's obvious leader's are Bob and Tkachuk. But because Tkachuk is a skater not a goalie, a face of the league, and is a big story because he just arrived in Florida, he seems like he will get the edge over Bob if they both remain neck and neck. Verhaeghe and Barkov are the only one's who could catch either of those two, although they are a ways behind and I don't see Chuk or Bob having a drop off in play vs Vegas.


Yah there’s no clear fav for the Conn Smythe right now with a lot of worthy candidates. It’ll be interesting to see what happens
May 25, 2023 at 10:26 a.m.
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Tkachuk has been clutch, but Bob has stole games. Without Bob,Tkachuk being clutch doesn't matter because Bob put you in a position to win every night. He was also facing 30+ shots a night.

Imo there was a lot of points where Carolina outplayed Florida but Bob shut the door


Bob has been great, but Carolina takes a lot of low quality shots which gives Bobs SV% a boost and private models are higher on the panthers defense and don’t have Bob putting up otherworldly numbers. He’s still a deserving candidate for conn smythe, but there’s also a strong argument for Tkachuk.

Last night Bob was average and let in a goal with 2 min to go in the game. Tkachuk put the team on his back and scored with 4 sec left. That game could have easily went to OT and Carolina would have all the momentum.

People who normally don’t care for analytics are running with a public model like money puck saying that Bob has saved 20 goals expected without using any context and looking at all the data.
May 25, 2023 at 10:37 a.m.
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Oshie owns Bob.


Never forget that
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May 25, 2023 at 11:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
This Bob vs Thachuk debate is idiotic. They wouldn’t be here without either of them. You could say either one is MVP and you’d be right.


Saying it's idiotic is going a bit far. If debating hockey on the internet is idiotic we should probably all step away for awhile. Sticking Out Tongue
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May 25, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.
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Edited May 25, 2023 at 12:09 p.m.
If Bob can keep this up next year where does this leave them with Spencer Knight
May 25, 2023 at 11:40 a.m.
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Saying it's idiotic is going a bit far. If debating hockey on the internet is idiotic we should probably all step away for awhile. Sticking Out Tongue


True lol, I was using hyperbole
May 25, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.
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Hockey 🤷‍♂️


Surprised the 2019 Blues were in a playoff spot for more days
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May 25, 2023 at 7:01 p.m.
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If Bob can keep this up next year where does this leave them with Spencer Knight


The backup
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May 25, 2023 at 7:05 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Tkachuk has been clutch, but Bob has stole games. Without Bob,Tkachuk being clutch doesn't matter because Bob put you in a position to win every night. He was also facing 30+ shots a night.

Imo there was a lot of points where Carolina outplayed Florida but Bob shut the door


To me if Canes 100% healthy I feel things go more in Canes favor as u could see they were missing Patches and Svechnikov at times and then final game no Slavin. Sucks but they had a TDL to prepare and didnt

That said yep Bob ate them alive especially game 3
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May 25, 2023 at 8:19 p.m.
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To me if Canes 100% healthy I feel things go more in Canes favor as u could see they were missing Patches and Svechnikov at times and then final game no Slavin. Sucks but they had a TDL to prepare and didnt

That said yep Bob ate them alive especially game 3


I agree, tbh I think the Canes really did play better they were just lacking that star scoring that they needed. Bob kept all the games close and the Panthers star players capitalized when they needed too.

Imo Bob won 3/4 games of that series.

In game 1 and 2 Canes were better, Bob shut the door.

Game 3 was close overall, Bob didn't miss a beat and had a shut out.

Game 4 Florida was better, Bob had a good enough game to win.
May 25, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
I agree, tbh I think the Canes really did play better they were just lacking that star scoring that they needed. Bob kept all the games close and the Panthers star players capitalized when they needed too.

Imo Bob won 3/4 games of that series.

In game 1 and 2 Canes were better, Bob shut the door.

Game 3 was close overall, Bob didn't miss a beat and had a shut out.

Game 4 Florida was better, Bob had a good enough game to win.


Yep through 2 rounds u could argue Bob stole 6 games (Games 1,2, 5 vs Leafs, Games 1,2,3 vs Canes). As honestly without him they dont go past round 2 as look at the high danger chances that man faced it was insane he only allowed 2 a game
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May 25, 2023 at 8:39 p.m.
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Title of the thread is true, Ryan Suter is the biggest bird, and he needs to get bought out this offseason.
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May 25, 2023 at 8:45 p.m.
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Title of the thread is true, Ryan Suter is the biggest bird, and he needs to get bought out this offseason.


Your fault for jinxing us.
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May 25, 2023 at 8:45 p.m.
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To me if Canes 100% healthy I feel things go more in Canes favor as u could see they were missing Patches and Svechnikov at times and then final game no Slavin. Sucks but they had a TDL to prepare and didnt

That said yep Bob ate them alive especially game 3


Game 3 Bob had a relatively easy workload. Besides Aho getting a few good looks, the canes mostly threw low percentage shots from the point at him. Bob must’ve scooped up 20 floaters from point shots.
May 25, 2023 at 8:50 p.m.
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Your fault for jinxing us.


Nah it was @TinTin for SUTERGOATING the bracket challenge
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May 25, 2023 at 9:29 p.m.
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ryan suter is the worst player in the league

love how even the finnish commentators in this broadcast are legit saying that deboer's biggest L in these playoffs is allowing suter to play.
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May 25, 2023 at 10:15 p.m.
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ryan suter is the worst player in the league

love how even the finnish commentators in this broadcast are legit saying that deboer's biggest L in these playoffs is allowing suter to play.


Common Fin W

They play against men
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May 25, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
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OT winner prediction for both teams:
VGK - William Karlsson
DAL - Joe Pavelski
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May 25, 2023 at 10:58 p.m.
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
OT winner prediction for both teams:
VGK - William Karlsson
DAL - Joe Pavelski


🐐 prediction
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May 25, 2023 at 10:59 p.m.
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thank god pavs
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May 25, 2023 at 11:00 p.m.
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Reverse Sweep SZN
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May 25, 2023 at 11:51 p.m.
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
OT winner prediction for both teams:
VGK - William Karlsson
DAL - Joe Pavelski


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🐐 prediction


GG
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May 27, 2023 at 8:30 p.m.
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Man both teams are flying out the gate. Chemistry and puck movement are off the charts. Gonna be a good tilt tonight!
 
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