Pretty sure WSH, VAN and BOS would all pass on those trade offers.

Sorry, but you're not getting half that for Tanev from Vancouver.

Leafs accept but would like to add a 3rd to get him half retained

Vancouver isnt trading Hoglander

What about Don Sweeney makes you think he’s stupid?

Take out the 1st and Hoglander, then the Canucks would accept.

I made a lengthy explanation on one of your posts yesterday about how the Bruins likely wouldn't trade Poitras for just about anything due to his potential, his long term low cost, and the Bruins needs. And yet you think they will trade both him and their best defensive prospect along with a 1st round pick for an expiring Noah Hanafin? Is the plan to ignore comments on this thread too and make an even more ridiculous post tomorrow?

Dude. Salary cap on three of these. Cmon.

Might have to take Mantha back in that Lindholm offer

Zadorov’s worth far more than that

Take Hoglander out of the Tanev deal and try to get Brzustewicz instead of the 3rd, but we’ll need to retain 50% on Tanev at the same time

BOS Fans are gonna reject the Hanifin Trade, but after you take Poitras out and retain on Hanifin and the value isn’t far off. Try to get Jesper Boqvist and John Faranacci from BOS and only other consideration is making it fit under the Cap for BOS

Vladar needs to increase his value yet to get a 3rd. He’s probably worth a 4th/Andrew Peeke right now

Of course they would, but CGY wouldn’t

Without retention you’d need at least a 2nd/Brzustewicz + 3rd/Klimovich + Beauvillier + Woo to secure Tanev

If that's the price, then it's not worth it for Vancouver.

You mean it doesn’t seem worth it to you

VAN owes Tanev an act of good faith and that shows he’s actually wanted this time…., you left him with a sour taste in his mouth last time, remember!?

Yeah I doubt the Bs would want Hanifin rather than Lindholm, but say a 1st, 3rd, Faranacci and Boqvist would be in the realm for Hanifin. THe third might be the sticking point but I don't think that it's necessarily bad value on either end. Could be wrong though

Lohrei and Poitras are probably non-starters

Also i didn't see the retention on Hanifin so that 3rd makes more sense

But we owe Calgary nothing, so we won't be over-paying Calgary just because Tanev was once a Canuck.

Edit: Of course I mean it doesn't seem worth it to me. Do I need to remind you that none of us are NHL GM's, none of us can actually speak on behalf of any team and this is all about our opinions?

There is fair value in a vacuum, and then there is actual value, which is based on need/demand. There is certainly league-wide demand for Hanafin, but Boston's need for another top-end defenseman is low. I cannot imagine a realistic situation where Boston gives up any 1st rounders or top prospects for Hanafin, because their need for improving their prospect pipeline far outweighs the need for more elite defenders. Maybe its just me, but the only way I see Boston trading for defense is for 3rd pair or depth beyond that.

Do they need Lohrei though if they have Hanifin & Lindholm (I assume Hanifin would extend with BOS)!? Usually your 3LD is a Big Goon Penalty Killer exactly like Forbort

And what do they do with Grz. Maybe he gets a traded elsewhere or is included to make the Cal work

No you’re right, you don’t, just suggesting because it’s not ultimately up to you or what you think is best for VAN, it still could actually happen regardless of your thoughts/opinion

Often times there is an inter-division/rivalry tax/premium that gets paid. And keep in mind, VAN isn’t the only Team wanting Tanev, so if they really want him, yes, they may very likely have to over pay

I think they like Lohrei as the replacement for Gryz because of his offensive upside and because BIG, if they decided to go all out they might like Hanifin but long-term its less enticing. Gryz probably plays when he gets back this Saturday and Lohrei might head to Providence, he's been on for over half their goals against since getting called up, but is the 10th most sheltered D-man in the league in terms of offensive zone starts. He probably needs a bit more seasoning but there is a war among Bs fans about whether he needs to stay to get better or to go to the AHL and log minutes

I also have heard that CGY wouldnt want Gryz but he probably leaves in the offseason unless he's traded. He could definitely be a piece if asked

Agreed. I just wonder if they’d prefer Hanifin (who’s very young for a Defensemen and has a very long career ahead of him yet) & Lindholm as their Top-LD’s over an what’s realistically an Unproven Prospect doing well on a Sting Team and Grz

If the answer to the above is yes, for sure I could see them finally securing Hanifin, which is something they’ve been rumoured to want for a very long time

Caps hard pass. Lindholm is overrated and about to get a contract he won't live up to. McM is becoming legit, is young and cheap. I wouldn't even do McM straight up for Lindholm, let alone then adding a potential top 4 dman and 2 good picks.

It absolutely could happen regardless of what I think. Just like Calgary could trade all of their UFA's for less than a 1st + each regardless of what you think. As I previously mentioned, this is all about our individual opinions.

Yes, I conceded that to you already, but you know how guys are in here. I even had one guy try to light me up because when I referenced CGY, I used “we” and he went on a tangent about how I’m not the owner or part of management

Sometimes ppl here get caught up and stubborn, believing that their beliefs and opinions are 100% in line with their GM’s and that they know it all already. Clearly that’s not you, but I was just confirming that was the case. Sorry for any confusion

Thanks for the laugh.

Not really interested , only guy we want is Elias.

But he did not realize Noah was Bobby Orr and Wayne Gretzky combined.

I just don't see it. Hanafin makes ~$5m now, and he is entering his prime. What will his next contract be? Let's say that on the low end he will make at least $6.5m AAV, although I am admittedly completely making that number up. Boston would then have a top 4 D making $9.5m, $6.5m, $6.5m, and $4.1m. I have no problem with the defense-first roster construction, but that would be ~30% of the cap tied up in 4 defenders. I personally think that is too much, and they need to allocate some of the cap space that will free up to the forward group and improve their ability to score. Others may disagree.

Especially when we look at Teams like EDM & TOR, I think it’s much better to have that $$$ invested in Defence

It’s a much faster game that caters to younger forwards anyways, so staying young and revolving forwards, while having the best D-Corp in the League who can also provide offence seems like the best way to go AFAIC

Look at My Calgary Flames for example lol. Their best players are their <$1mil/yr Rookies, not their over paid Stars