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Created by: Hockey_Hippy

Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 20, 2024

Published: Jan. 20, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

There will be a bit of ugly in Calgary's future with this, but not as much as folks might think given that some of the new acquisitions (Podkolzin, possibly Grosev) are ready to play pro hockey. Plus in two years they will have a ton of cap space.

Trades

CGY

Kuzmenko, Andrei ($1,500,000 retained)
Podkolzin, Vasily
Willander, Tom [Reserve List]
2025 1st round pick (VAN)

Additional Details:

Canucks win the Lindholm sweepstakes and sign him to an extension along the lines of the one Horvat signed with the Islanders. They also give up Willander and a likely late first, but they move on from Kuzmenko and Podkolzin, two players that have struggled in Vancouver, as well.

VAN

Lindholm, Elias ($850,000 retained)

Additional Details:

The first of a series of deals that will turn over the roster. Calgary has a seller's market with Lindholm and they take full advantage of it. They play the likes of Vancouver, Colorado, Boston, Toronto and one or two others off of each other before taking the Canuck's offer.

CGY

Kuznetsov, Evgeny ($1,800,000 retained)
Suzdalev, Alexander
2024 1st round pick (WSH)

Additional Details:

Washington is in a dogfight for the wildcard and badly needs goals. Kuzmenko is one season removed from 30+ and never got on with Tocchet in Vancouver. A change of scenery and a coach specializing in offense maybe unlocks him again. The Caps give up their first rounder, Suzdalev and get out from under the lodestone that is Evgeni Kuznetzov for a modest retention fee.

WSH

Kuzmenko, Andrei ($2,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Andrei Kuzmenko we hardly knew ya. The Flames flip him to a team in desperate need of goals. Calgary picks up another 1st and a bruising forward with hands on a bit of a runway as well as an asset to possibly flip next year.

CGY

Karpovich, Daniil [Reserve List]
Tierney, Chris
2024 1st round pick (NJD)
2026 5th round pick (NJD)

Additional Details:

Acquiring Hanifan allows Marino to move to his natural right side and pushes Nimec, a rookie, down in the rotation. When Hamilton returns it means Miller is your 7th which is not a bad option to have.

The 5th is CoDB to further wash Hanifan's cap hit through Anaheim to reduce it further. Tierney is in the deal to allow the Devils the necessary cap space beyond that to make it.

NJD

Hanifin, Noah ($2,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

The second of Calgary's UFAs to be to go. The Flames get another top 32 pick a journeyman 4th liner and a big toolsy LHD on a runway.

CGY

Groshev, Maxim
2025 3rd round pick (TBL)

Additional Details:

It seems every year the Bolts make a deal to try to stave off the closing of their window of contention and hollow out their pipeline even more. This year, it's Tanev.

TBL

Tanev, Christopher

Additional Details:

The value in this deal is Groshev, another one of those 'found under a rock' wingers from the Bolt's pipeline. The third is another dart to throw at the board, albeit a decent one.

CGY

Benn, Jamie ($1,000,000 retained)
2025 3rd round pick (DAL)
2026 2nd round pick (DAL)

Additional Details:

Dallas gets a winger seven years younger than Benn who has been just as productive in a less talented lineup for their cup run and beyond.

DAL

Mangiapane, Andrew

Additional Details:

Calgary leverages it's new found cap space to grab a pair of draft assets and import instant culture change. They can go one of two ways next season. They can either re-sign Benn at a low rent retirement deal and let him show the kids how to be professionals (under no circumstances do you want Kadri as the strongest personality in the room), or failing that they can turn him into a playoff rental like Kuznetzov.

CGY

Dvorak, Jakub
2026 3rd round pick (LAK)

Additional Details:

If nothing else LA gets a goalie younger than 30 it can dress on a nightly basis. But Vladar is decent netminder playing behind a team without the kind of consistent defensive structure that the Kings roll out night after night. He'd be a definite upgrade over Rittich and Copley and a decade younger than Talbot

LAK

Vladar, Daniel

Additional Details:

Another draft asset and a big lefty defenseman prospect for the pipeline for a netminder who had not place in Calgary going forward.

Retained Salary Transactions

Elias Lindholm: $850,000 (17.53%)
Andrei Kuzmenko: $2,000,000 (36.36%)
Noah Hanifin: $2,000,000 (161.62%)

Buried

Kevin Rooney: $150,000 ($1,300,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$76,234,166	$0	$1,077,500	$7,265,834

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Dubé, Dillon $2,300,000$2,300,000 LW, RW, C RFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem $7,000,000$7,000,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Sharangovich, Yegor $3,100,000$3,100,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2
Benn, Jamie $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 2	Kuznetsov, Evgeny $2,100,000$2,100,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Huberdeau, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8
Zary, Connor $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LW, C RFA - 2	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Coleman, Blake $4,900,000$4,900,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 4
Ruzicka, Adam $762,500$762,500 LW, C UFA - 1	Tierney, Chris $775,000$775,000 C UFA - 1	Klapka, Adam $832,500$832,500 RW, C RFA - 1
Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1		Greer, AJ $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Weegar, MacKenzie $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 3	Markström, Jacob $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Gilbert, Dennis $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1	Kylington, Oliver $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Wolf, Dustin $813,333$813,333 ($15,000$15K) G RFA - 1
Oesterle, Jordan $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	DeSimone, Nick $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Pospisil, Martin $775,000$775,000 RW RFA - 1

Jan. 20 at 1:39 p.m.

canucksfan43

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Willander is untouchable

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Jan. 20 at 1:41 p.m.

Vancity2196

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Willander is not available.
Calgary has interest on Vancouver’s prospects but not Kuzmenko.

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Jan. 20 at 1:43 p.m.

TunaXD

Joined: May 2021

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Take out Willander and the Canucks accept. Also if Kuzmenko held that much value the Canucks would just trade him themselves for a similar package.

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Jan. 20 at 1:43 p.m.

sedin33

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Huge overpay for Lindholm.

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Jan. 20 at 1:43 p.m.

Boltsradynasty

Miss YA Killer

Joined: Jun. 2022

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No chance TB can take on Tanev's cap hit

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Jan. 20 at 1:48 p.m.

SomeonesOffended

FKA Bigtittielarper

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Can’t see Dallas and LA saying yes

Jan. 20 at 1:49 p.m.

Mediumyeet

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Outrageous price for Lindholm. You are living on another planet if that's the type of return you are expecting

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Jan. 20 at 1:49 p.m.

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

Joined: Jul. 2015

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Not sure of the return the Flames will get for UFA this TDL. But either way it's a great opportunity for the Flames to retool and spend the new found cap wisely in the next few seasons, cause this group isn't cutting it. Too bad Flames and Trevling wasted 17.5m long term on Kadri and Huberdeau. Having that cap would have helped the Flames even more.

Jan. 20 at 1:54 p.m.

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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Sold to NJD

Jan. 20 at 1:56 p.m.

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NHLfan10506

Joined: May 2019

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It was in 32T this week that Flames won’t be looking for picks/prospects in return for their UFAs, but for NHL players.

Jan. 20 at 1:57 p.m.

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BigShoots

Big Shoots

Joined: Sep. 2020

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Quoting: TunaXD

Take out Willander and the Canucks accept. Also if Kuzmenko held that much value the Canucks would just trade him themselves for a similar package.

Hahah I love it hey. Like can't even hide the homerism of his proposal. One trade when you're acquiring a guy he's worth nothing but then when you trade him he's worth a 1st ++. Usually OPs make terrible proposals but they don't often out themselves as certifiably delusional all in one post.

Jan. 20 at 2:11 p.m.

#12

Smitty426

Joined: May 2016

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You did your homework Hippy, nice job

Jan. 20 at 2:22 p.m.

#13

BrodeurBro30

Joined: Jan. 2023

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Canucks didn’t draft Willander at 11OA just to move him one season later. He’s off the table and Quinn Hughes future pair. Him and Lekkerimäki are the only pre-ELC guys off the table.

Also, I like Hanifin and while I think it’s more than fair, instead of a mid rounder, you get a late round pick and Karpovich. I don’t know how aggressive the Devils are going to be at the deadline.

Jan. 20 at 2:27 p.m.

#14

Epic_Ninja_Dude

Joined: Feb. 2022

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Canucks easily decline. Willander is not available under any circumstances. They also wouldn’t have interest in extending Lindholm. They dealt Horvat because they didn’t want an $8M 3C, and Lindholm would be the exact same thing. Not to mention the fact that they wouldn’t give up that much, if you’re comparing Lindholm to Horvat extending then you are looking at the same return Horvat got, and this is far more than that.

Jan. 20 at 3:16 p.m.

#15

BoringBrianMacLellan

Skip skibbity

Joined: Oct. 2016

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no thank you from DC

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