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Trevor31lv

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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25 at 11:10 p.m.
Thread: Tanev and Jenner and Bogosian and Maroon
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>I'm really split on moving Jenner (likelihood aside). I keep going back and forth between whether it's worth it or not. Ultimately I think the "right" move by a tiny margin is moving him. I think the fact this team is a couple years away from being any good and his age/injury history recently could lead to him being a far smaller factor than we may expect on the ice when the team gets to that point. So I think the upside of a guy like Minten and another late 1st + is really starting to make sense and maybe outweigh the benefits of Jenner as a locker room guy and leader. Not set on that by any means, but as far as "what's best for the future of the team" I am starting to lean that way a bit.

Anyway, I'm 100% with you on rolling with Elvis/Greaves next year. If they're gonna have to pay or retain to move Elvis, it just doesn't make sense at this point in time with how far away they are. Again, realism with this FO vs what I think is best, but Tarasov has had his chance as far as I'm concerned and we've seen he's not gonna be the guy. He's 100% got unlucky with injuries, but I've seen enough to move on. Elvis has been up and down for sure and has the contract, but he's dramatically outperforming Tarasov behind the same team, and the numbers are good enough that you'd think he'll be at least solid if they ever figure out how to defend. Then, Greaves has some issues with his size, sure, but he's so fantastic technically that I think he's got a really good shot to overcome it. Even if he doesn't turn into a "real" starter, I think there's a fair chance we'll see him turn into a solidified NHL player that'll at least be a solid backup or mediocre 1B. I don't see any reason not to go into next season with those 2 as your NHL pair personally, but the FO obviously has other ideas.</div></div>

In regards to the first part: my reasoning for leaning pro-moving Jenner is because I think he hasn't been the best captain/leader, and a shakeup there might shake up the whole room and organization. But it's got to be preceded by firing Jarmo and JD, which has turned into the ultimate boys club IMO. Few FOs have as much job security for as little on-ice success as those two, and the whole organization of old needs to go to move forward.

In regards to the second part: yeah, Elvis + Greaves makes too much sense for next year, and the fact that the FO has other plans is part of why I'm also pro-new-FO. :)
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 25, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.
Thread: Redoing Things in the 2022 Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div> I also wouldn't make the Provorov deal. I think he's a good fit in terms of short term 2 year player for that 2LD spot as prospects develop (though Meteychuk seems to basically be ready now, who woulda though lol). I was not cool with giving up the 1st for him though.....Saw a lot of arguments this offseason that it didn't matter if they overpaid for Provorov cause the pick was "basically free" from the Korpi/Gavrikov deal, but I think that mindset is awful.</div></div>

I don't mind the Provorov deal, in hindsight. It's done 3 important things: 1) shielded players like Mateychuk and Svozil so they don't have to take on the 2LD role now, 2) Provorov's season has definitely bumped up his value a little, and 3) related to 2, gives us the ability to trade him down the line when we have a better idea which pieces are core and which holes need to actually be filled, and target those needs with either the picks or players we get back.

The overarching complaint for me is the FO:

"In this universe I'd also like to think Mike Babcock isn't hired as HC at all, and that whole crap show is avoided entirely. Pazzy wouldn't have been my first choice hire either, imo it would've been nice to get a external candidate who is a capable coach. I cannot understand this org's fascination with internal hires despite the fact they never perform to a high standard. (Todd Richards, Brad Larsen, Pascal Vincent, etc.). There were absolutely capable external candidates available who were passed over for whatever reason."

Paz is a fine coach, and I like what he's done this year. The last two seasons under Larsen completely ruined both the culture and the development trajectory of some key players that are just now getting back on track, IMO. Ownership should have let Jarmo make the choice and come to them before hiring, and when he said his choice was Larsen, fired him on the spot. They certainly should have fired him on the spot for hiring Babcock in the first place. The boys club/internal hire issues have plagued this franchise for years, and if anything needs a shakeup, it's the FO and arguably the ownership that's allowed a culture of failure to fester.

I don't mind the team on the ice, I think that's the result of a mostly fine or obvious moves that have set us up nicely for future success. But I don't trust this management crew to get us over the hump, and that's the first change that needs to happen.


As for the players: Gaudreau is still important because it showed the rest of the league that big-name free agents view Columbus as a legit spot. Severson is expensive but should be fine. Gudbranson has been fine this year, but I wouldn't take him over Bjorky, which was the biggest mistake of the bunch. Undo everything you've done here, and ice the roster as you have it, and <strong>this team is still bottom-5 in the league.</strong>
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 25, 2023 at 9:27 a.m.
Thread: Redoing Things in the 2022 Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>Like this a lot. Personally, I'd still want to do the Gaudreau signing IF Gudbranson isn't a package deal. I'm still not clear on that whole dynamic and whether it would've come up or not without them signing Gudbranson. Having an elite player, even if he's not that no. 1 guy on a cup quality guy still provides a lot of value and with Zach being the only large contract here, they've got plenty of room to make it work and money wouldn't even be a concern for another 3 years, if that. Top line looks a lot better and I think would help Fantilli's growth a lot more with Gaudreau there and Jenner bumped down.

Since you mentioned coaching, I know they hired Larson the prior season, but if they'd gone internal I would've much rather had Shaw than Larson. If anyone already in the org deserved a chance, I think it was him. I would've also went balls to the walls for Laviolette this offseason. I think he would've been he perfect guy, though I think it's a hard sell to convince him to not take the NYR job he'd presumably still be offered. I would've gone after him the second Washington let him go though and maybe been able to grab him quickly.

Lastly, since you mentioned Severson and the HC from this offseason, I'd add that I also wouldn't make the Provorov deal. I think he's a good fit in terms of short term 2 year player for that 2LD spot as prospects develop (though Meteychuk seems to basically be ready now, who woulda though lol). I was not cool with giving up the 1st for him though. If Philly was asking for that LA pick, I would've just moved on and looked for a FA or something to fill that spot on a 2-3 year deal, even if it was a worse option. Saw a lot of arguments this offseason that it didn't matter if they overpaid for Provorov cause the pick was "basically free" from the Korpi/Gavrikov deal, but I think that mindset is awful. At the point you made that trade and got the pick, it's not free. Good job getting a 1st for 2 expiring deals, but now that you have it it's an asset you should value, not throw away on an overpay you could've just solved in FA cause you think you're playing with house money or whatever. And worst case, I'd play Blankenburg (who should be in the lineup imo) there, or Bean/Boqvist on the left side short term.</div></div>

I thought about leaving Gaudreau in there and then keeping Bjorkstrand with Laine being the cap sacrifice, but i do have some long term concerns on how Johnnys contract is going to age. And given our window to win really isn’t going to be until 2025-26 with how the roster is constructed, that’s another 2 years of aging on Johnny before we are truly ready to win.

I agree 100% about Shaw. I was legitimately pissed that Shaw was brushed to the side while Larsen (notable power play struggle coach) was heralded as Torts’ prodigy by management lol. Extremely ironic that Jarmo and JD were adamant that he’d uphold “the standard” set by Torts only to fire him 2 seasons later for “letting the standard slip”. Also believe that Laviolette would’ve been the perfect hire as a little bit of a hardass but one who knows how to coach a winner and get the most out of players. Agreed that the odds are low he would’ve wanted to coach here over NYR but we’ll never actually know whether that’s true or not

I kinda agree/disagree on Provorov. Totally understand from the asset management perspective that it’s not the most ideal expenditure but realistically I’m not sure if we would’ve been able to land one of the left shot UFA d men. To me we’re one of Orlov/Graves really gonna sign in Columbus over Pittsburgh or Carolina? Additionally getting a Russian who’s a good player in Provorov to help the young Russian players feel more included i think has been very beneficial for them. Also has paired well with Jiricek (when he isn’t benched 🙄). I do think I’d be a little more pressed if that pick was even 2-3 spots higher bc it would opened the door to drafting a guy like Oliver Moore. But end of the day, it’s one of the lesser issues to me compared to the litany of poor moves we’ve made the last 2 years.

Merry Christmas as well!
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 23, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
Thread: Deal or no Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>Agreed with the opinion of the package. It's quite good and arguably has more overall value. I just don't think it makes sense for Columbus given the sheer amount of quality prospects they have. Guys like Dumais, Del Bel Belluz, Brindley all are in the system and have good outlooks. Obviously you don't expect every prospect to pan out, but they've got a ton of these very good, but not great prospects that I'm comfortable they'll be able to fill needs in the coming years. What they really need is the star power. Fantilli, Jiricek, Johnson working out and being high impact players. Pinto is a quality player 100%, but doesn't have the same ceiling as Johnson and is 2 years older so I don't think it makes sense for Columbus to downgrade that ceiling for more help where I think they're fine already.</div></div>
Yeah, important for a team in CBJ position to keep the guys with the highest upside, need to establish a core. Like I said, there's a possibility that Jarventie ends up the most productive guy but it's also far from guarantied and Columbus would be silly to take that risk.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 23, 2023 at 10:16 p.m.
Thread: Deal or no Deal
OP, NEVER break up Norris and Batherson

<div class="yt_out_cont"><div class="yt_cont"><iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/vTOgMlHnpbU" frameborder="0"></iframe></div></div>

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Johnson - Norris - Batherson
Joseph - Greig - Tarasenko

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Friendly_Cannon</b></div><div>Can’t really see cbj being interested in moving Kent unless it’s for a similar caliber young player. Pinto is good but doesn’t have the upside</div></div>
I think there's a decent chance that Jarventie ends up the better player though. Pinto's value is in his projectability. He's not going to be close to PPG but think of a Danault-Backes hybrid. Jarventie has a legit Top-6 skillset and a deadly shot

Some of the usuals will **** on this package but it has a lot of value. Jarventie took a gigantic step since last season, he just turned 21 y/o, he's NHL ready and was one the Sens best players in training camp. Looked deadly with Batherson.

I wouldn't trade Pinto and Jarventie if it wasn't worth it but KJ is worth it. I wouldn't do it if I was Columbus though, never trade the best asset unless you're forced to
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 23, 2023 at 9:26 p.m.
Thread: By the end of the week
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GM_SZK</b></div><div>I do agree with you and that’s why my madness had 3 prospects that were waivers exempt coming CBJ way and why Peeke and Robinson headed the other way as they seem to be not wanted.

I do think Brodie would fit in well though, he has game left in him but it’s not gonna come out in TO. I feel like he is a guy who can play with almost any other D, and he could thrive outside of the Toronto madness….certainly could help the CBJ as a revolving 1-7D.

What would you want in return, even if it’s just for Peeke ?</div></div>

Three players being waivers exempt adds three more players to Cleveland if you just consider the deal to be Brodie for Bean and Peeke out to make a spot for Chinakhov coming off IR. And Cleveland already has too many players to the point that even 2021 second rounder del bel Belluz hasn’t even gotten to play in a game yet.

It’s a pickle. In a perfect world, a mid-20s shot-blocking defensive RD who’s always healthy would fetch a nice ransom. Instead, we’d settle for mid-round picks just to get the roster spot back.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 22, 2023 at 9:40 p.m.
Thread: Rebuilding the Flames by Trading Lindholm Hanifin and Tanev
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>The problem is that there isn't a window right now. Even next year would be a bit optimistic. Lindholm doesn't get them over that hump cause they just simply aren't close enough as things are.

The thing I don't understand though is in a previous comment saying Fantilli makes Sillinger expendable, yet they're trading all this for center help. Jury is out on Sillinger, but he's looking better so far at the least. Between he, KJ, and Boone I think you have your middle 6 centers and 2nd/3rd line LW (depending if KJ is gonna play C or now). Fantilli may not be ready to be a 1C yet, but they don't need him to be. They need that in 2 years so it really doesn't matter they dont have that rn if he develops.

I don't mind targeting Lindholm to play on the top line till Fantilli is ready and 2nd line after, but the issue is there's no reason to do it at the deadline when they can wait 5 months and target him in FA. Yeah, maybe it gives you a better chance, but that chance isn't worth losing Johnson, Sillinger, and Ceulemans.

The way I see it, this team's window opens in 25-26 at the earliest, but most likely a year after that. If you want to argue that Jarmo could make a shorter term move to maintain his job, I think that's reasonable, but that would be the only logical reason for CBJ to make a trade of this nature.

Obviously fans can't know the situation, but given the way Jarmo's talked about the rebuild the past few years and then general hands off nature of CBJ ownership, I'd think it's likely that he's got a good amount of security to see this out till a lot of the recent top prospects are established in the league. You never know though.</div></div>
I’m happy to see and appreciate CLB Fans patience and understanding that it’s a process, but I honestly don’t follow the Blue Jackets that much and I’m sorry to say, but I really don’t care what makes sense for them

I’m focussed on making my team better and trying to find trade partners who I think might fit, so reuniting Lindholm with Gaudreau is where I started and I worked from there

Jake Bean has a huge connection to Calgary having been born and playing his junior hockey there. His Dad, John, is a Flames Executive. I targeted him because I believe Hanifin will be Traded and there are Rumors CLB are looking to move him, Boqvist and/or Peeke. We have Weegar &amp; Andersson, so there’s no need for Boqvist. Tanev is getting older and Gudbranson chose to sign in CLB, so Peeke seems like a decent RD Target, so I included him too

If CLB were to acquire Lindholm I assume Jenner would move down to 2C and Fantilli down to 3C, with Roslovic &amp; Texier available if need be, hence why I felt Sillinger may have become expendable. I felt CLB could afford to part with KJ as well

We don’t have a ton of Term or Depth at RD, while CLB has Severson, Jiricek, Boqvist and Gudbranson. So I thought why not bring Ceulemans back to Alberta

It’s not in line with your guys’s visions, whatever, it’s all good and I can appreciate the reasoning. I just want Lindholm to either re-sign or be traded for quality assets already, I trust you can appreciate and understand that part
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 21, 2023 at 6:34 a.m.
Thread: Liam Foudy is on waivers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>Has a bit of speed, plays with a lot of effort. Everything else is probably short of NHL level tbh. Hasn't really improved offensively at all in the NHL.
Probably one of those dime a dozen guys who can be plugged into the 4th line and just kinda be there and give you 8-10 hard fought minutes a night. Costs nothing though, so worth a claim if y'all have a roster spot.</div></div>

Technically it doesn't cost "nothing". A team claiming him on waivers would need to pay like $50k or whatever to the team that waived him. Not a huge amount, but not nothing.

Pedanticness aside though, his ceiling is probably as a 4th line PKer at this point, but scoring 11 points in 25 games at the tail end of last season suggests he could be a Logan O'Connor type who chips in ~25 points a season.

CBJ have been reluctant to lose him in the past but seems like they didn't feel that he had made enough progress by this preseason to force them to keep him at all costs. Maybe a new start with a team that values skating highly would be beneficial.

Avs may need a replacement for Cogliano next year if Cogliano hangs em up so there's potentially a job there for him, and in the meantime they have cap flexibility due to Francouz being on LTIR so they could afford to give him some rope this year as 13F.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2023 at 3:26 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 2, 2023 at 6:44 a.m.
Thread: Accepting Offer From NYI Fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prison_Goalie_Rick</b></div><div>What CBJ fans are you talking to because 90% of us think he’s a 3rd pair only player and he’s slightly overpaid. He blocks shots and hits, but consistently gets walked and doesn’t do **** on offense. He’s played top-4 the past two years because of injuries and Boqvist not developing, and he’s been horrible against the tougher competition. That’s why Jarmo went out and overpaid for Severson.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>This isn't true. A fair bit of CBJ fans think he sucks. Most who don't, think that he's just a decent 3rd pair guy who can play up in the lineup decently if he's supported. The reason we don't want these trades is because so many around the league seem to view him as having real value and they're in no rush to move him. Trading him for a late 3rd and a nothing player makes no sense when they can just hold him till an actually valuable offer comes in, and if not just move him for that price anyway. Same thing with Boqvist. These guys aren't really gonna depreciate in value so CBJ don't need to just take the first offer on them when teams will certainly become more needy for a RD later in the season.</div></div>
Thanks for the heads up! I based that comment on the comments from more or less every Peeke trade I’ve seen from AGMs, which is a lot tbh. I guess I’ve just been unlucky and seen that “10%” that really likes him then.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 2, 2023 at 6:24 a.m.
Thread: Accepting Offer From NYI Fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aebexz</b></div><div>Might be wrong about these takes but I genuinely think both Islanders and Toronto accepts. Regarding the rest I don’t think so.

Blue Jackets fans will not accept the Peeke trade and it won’t even be close because they see him as a decent top 4 guy with some great defensive upside alongside a fantastic contract.

Nashville is weird but from what I understand they will use this year to just evacuate things. But the one thing I don’t think they’ll do is give away draft picks.

The Vancouver trade will be a big no from the Canucks side. A top 10 draft pick for a 2nd rounder from the same draft just speaks for itself considering neither of them has established themselves in the NHL.

Last but not least it’s Minnesota. Järnkrok is great but I doubt they would part ways with Foligno and his play-style for him. Regarding Middleton, he’s on their 1st pairing for a reason. Plus, Why would Minnesota give up every last dollar of their cap space to not get better? I can see them at least thinking about Järnkrok-Foligno but never Middleton-Brodie</div></div>

What CBJ fans are you talking to because 90% of us think he’s a 3rd pair only player and he’s slightly overpaid. He blocks shots and hits, but consistently gets walked and doesn’t do **** on offense. He’s played top-4 the past two years because of injuries and Boqvist not developing, and he’s been horrible against the tougher competition. That’s why Jarmo went out and overpaid for Severson.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 23, 2023 at 9:33 p.m.
Thread: If Petey wanted out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>Gotta disagree. Even if you take out the goalie swap I think this is a good deal for CBJ value wise. Only change I'd want is Fantilli or KJ instead of Jiricek cause RD1 takes a big hit with him gone and with Petey they can lose one of the other 2 more easily. Then just adjust the value a bit maybe based on who you put in</div></div>

The smartest thing the Canucks could do is trade Petey at is highest value which is probably why it wont happen.
They'd easily get another top center back plus a puck mover and 1sts. 100 point players under 25 are in another universe, value wise.
If the offer isnt 'insane' Petey wont be moved.
The Nucks arent going to say.. 'oh right nobody else is bidding I guess we will take whatever' PLD even got hella value. I'm sure somehow Vegas would be offering their whole team including Eichel for Petey
Forum: Fauteuil - DGAug. 12, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
Thread: Standings predictions with some hot takes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>Fun

You're probably gonna get cooked in the replies cause that's what happens on here whenever a standings prediction doesn't follow concensus super closely, but who cares.

Will say, I personally can't really see Buffalo or NYI finishing that poorly. Buffalo should at least be better than Detroit, even in the event they don't take that next step. The Isles have too much of a guaranteed floor with Sorokon and solid plates throughout to finish outright poor, even if they don't have a super high ceiling. I'd be shocked if Washington finished above them.</div></div>

What I don’t like about Buffalo is their goaltending. Levi as a rookie can’t stay consistent for 70 games. And unfortunately, unless UPL take that next step, they don’t have decent backups option. Their defense is a bit shaky too. Detroit are more well rounded.

For the Isles, I don’t think they will be that good. They have insane defense and goaltending, but their offence is quite bad. They need goalscoring
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 30, 2023 at 9:35 p.m.
Thread: 2024 off season
The lack of respect Texier gets on this site is ridiculous.

The Jackets have better internal options than Amadio.

There is no chance Bemstrom is going to make $2.5M to play 4th line.

I sincerely doubt Roslovic is re-signed.

Buying out Gudbranson is premature.

I would be very surprised if KJ agreed to that contract. He's due for either a bridge or something at $7M+ long term.

Extending Bean for 5 years makes no sense with Mateychuk and Svozil on the near horizon.

If Marchenko paces for 30+ goals again it would be very surprising to see him sign that cheap of a contract.

Chinakhov is not a 4th line kind of player.

Olivier isn't getting traded for less than the 4th he was acquired for when his game has only improved since then.

Blankenburg is going to stick around as a cheap depth option and as another one of the Michigan guys on the team.

Maybe he winds up not working out in the NHL, but I'd be surprised if Voronkov isn't a significant part of the team going forward.