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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 6 at 12:22 p.m.
Thread: If we arent rushing the rebuild why cant we keep taking on bad contracts
I would tweak both trades a bit. I would not include the Ott 3rd....Campbell contract is really bad like sniffing 2 1st on it's own bad and odds w/ McDavid is neither are going to be all that early and Mrazek has had a really good season and has some sort of value too. I would maybe throw in the NYR 4th in '25 and would consider making the '25 1st the '26

Toronto deal needs to be expanded to include a RHD going back to Chicago....think both teams would want that to some extent. Liljegren, Timmins, or Niemela would be the most interesting and the Hawks could probably send a young LHD back (as not all of Phillips/DelMastro/Allen/Kaiser will have a path to the NHL (especially with Vlassic looking solid this year in the NHL and Korchinski likely to grab another LHD NHL roster spot.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5 at 7:35 p.m.
Thread: Stockpiling D
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Just to clarify, this team is for next season, not this one, so the Hawks current injury issues don't play into it. In a deal for Murphy, even without retention, Krebs and Clifton are throw ins at best value wise to the Hawks. Krebs by your own description is a "flyer" guy. Clifton is a downgrade to Murphy no matter how you want to look at it. Is that really a smart move? Neither guy is more than a short term, fill in piece. A Murphy trade has to be for futures that push the rebuild forward, or you don't make the trade. That 2nd and one of Buffalo's good young F prospects? That makes way more sense. Multiple picks? That makes more sense. This offer is selling really low on Murphy IMO.</div></div>

I'll confess I am not a big believer of Murphy as a future piece (at all) and while he may be a decent bridge piece to try to transition some of the young D the next couple of seasons, I don't even view him as that great of a piece there. I would view Krebs as more of a potential piece going forward then guys like Katchouk, TRad, Reese Johnson, Entwistle, Guttman, and Joey Anderson who likely have roster spots next year (until proven otherwise). If you are counting on Hall or Athanasiou being healthy for a full season, you'll be disappointed based on recent history. Whatever recent prospects/picks turn pro....I would much rather they percolate in Rockford then having spots in Chicago by default. Call me crazy, but I would not mind taking a run at Pesce or Montour if they get to UFA.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5 at 5:38 p.m.
Thread: Stockpiling D
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Just curious what you think would appeal to KD in that package for Murphy? The 3rd pair RD, the bottom 6 F or the pick?</div></div>

With no retention, I think this is a pretty solid package....more quantity than quality....but fair. The pick is #38OA currently. Krebs is closing in on 23 so it is fair to suspect he is what he is at this point. I would not mind taking a flier on him and feeding him some middle 6 minutes to see if maybe he could be more though (he is an actuall NHL player which late 1st/2nds just as likely are not as good as what he is and certainly upgrades the bottom of this putrid roster of forwards which was not good even before the injury bug). At the least, the Hawks are rolling out some serious garbage at forward and he would add some depth and talent. Clifton give you a vet guy 2 years younger, way more playoff experience, 1.1 million per cheaper, and probably plenty good enough to pair with our LHD kids.

At some point retaining on Murphy, what would you think the best case return might be? Late first and a 2nd similar to McCabe where you had to include Lafferty (which is not much, but still something). Late 1st + late 2nd &lt; an early 2nd &amp; Krebs for me. That also give you a chip that is you truely want a late first you have 4 2nds to package up.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 3 at 2:42 p.m.
Thread: Can they go for it next year this fast
I really like Pettersson as a player, but no where near enough to give up 4 1st round picks the first couple of which might still be pretty good. All adding Hanifin does is stunts the growth of the mass of LHD options/prospects the Hawks have. I want Korchinski getting massive PP time so he hopefully can fulfil his promise. At the least keep the runway free of obstacles and take your lumps sifting through those prospects (because until we develop 2 or 3 really good D internally (Keiths/Seabs/Hjammer), we are going to be rebuilding any ways). I would be open to throwing 8-9 million per to Sam Reinhart as a UFA as a splash signing maybe a year sooner then they should in the rebuild. I think he would compliment what we have in the forward prospect poll better than Pettersson.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 20, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.
Thread: Big Game Huntin
I agree with Garak on Dickinson value being in the 3rd....2nd with retention range. The proposal here probably adds up to that 2nd value in a quantity approach, I just don't think the Hawks will have any interest in quantity over quality with the quantity of picks they have made in the last 2 drafts and have stacked up in the next 3....at some point you don't have enough roster spots on your pro rosters to place all those picks.

I think you would be way more likely to get the Hawks to bite on a package where they are sending the quantity to upgrade one of the many picks they have....so maybe like Dickinson WITH one of the 3 2nd's the Hawks hold for the Avs 1st. My counteroffer would be Dickinson (half retained) plus the worst 2nd the Hawks end up holding and the Sens 3rd for the Avs 1st. Using the SoundOfHockey pick value chart with where these picks currently sit, that would be a net of getting Dickinson for a mid 40's pick which I think is fair for him retained. Hawks get to upgrade multiple picks and a trade chip into a better pick which I think they really need to do while the Avs add a TDL piece and downgrade a 1st into 2nd and 3rd they currently do not have.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 15, 2023 at 1:49 p.m.
Thread: Pushes Chips In for 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Hawks should not do anything remotely like this; stay the course. Maybe bring in 1 big name next summer but if that's the case of all the big names you have here, I would go after Sam Reinhardt for $10M (give or take). He's an awesome 2 way right winger to play with Bedard long term and also a position where our prospect pool is weak at. Outside of that, the Hawks stay the course</div></div>

This....we are at the very least another if not two seasons away from time to go all in. All this AGM would accomplish is having the Hawks a fringe playoff team (the D and goaltending are still not THAT good) that at best maybe sneaks in and gets bounced in round 1 of the playoffs leaving us with a pick in the 20's instead of in the teens which is usually enough of a difference between a top half of a roster player verses a bottom half (and we still need a few more potential top half of a roster guys). Take our lumps going through the growing pains of the kids auditioning for spots and grab a pick in the 5-15 range again and have enough of the kids sort through their growing pains that you start to have a core of a handful of young players to build around first, before you try to plug holes.

I do love the idea of Reinhart. I do realize the cap is going up and that the Hawks are probably going to have to overpay to get someone that will have options to come, but I would hope a long term deal for Reinhart would come in closer to the 8-9 range than 10.