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What do you think? Is this a better Eichel deal?

Just to clarify I have zero interest in giving up guentzel.

I cannot tell you how quickly Carolina laugh if you think this is getting you Necas

Legare, Almeida, and a 2nd just to move Johnson? These are just getting more crazy. Take Legare out and it's still overpay.

I wouldn't want Eichel or Malkin on the wing. The only Eichel deal that would make sense would be packages including Malkin going to Buffalo.

That’s what Murray should be worth lol. If pens get a return of anything less than Necas for Murray, then there is no trade to be made

The folks on here, they hate Murray lol.

I just don't see how swapping 40 goal players and then paying a ton extra benefits the penguins.

I mean Eichal is no doubt way better but I agree. Pens don’t need Eichal

I'm not arguing that Eichal isn't the better player. My point being, do you really see the production he brings in being that much better than what you are getting out of Jake?
I don't.
And that's where the trade ends for me, because at the end of the day it's about improving the team. I just don't see how they are a better team with this.
As Jake is already pouring in 40 goals a year.

yes and I agree with that. I would rather package Poulin and a first for another impact player

I mean isn’t any Eichel deal a bad deal for Buffalo ....

Then no trade is being made lol. Necas is worth far more than Murray. Murray had a horrible last season, Necas was 4th on the canes forward core in scoring. Carolina are not giving up Necas for someone the Pens want rid of LMAO

Jake is not allowed to get traded - Sid calls GMJB and tells him to take a bad deal for Jack & Sid will let him come back to PIT in a couple yrs as Assistant GM to the 1st Player/ GM in modern times in Sidney Crosby

Altho, I wouldn't exactly mind having Eichel on the team but not for Jake

Murray had a bad year yes. But that’s why we’re not gonna sell low on a two time cup champion. So enjoy Mrazek as your starter lol

Reimer as a .914 is our starter, the fact you don't know that proves you don't know anything about the Canes, and that is why you'll never get Necas for Murray LOL

Mrazek played way more games and both goalies had injuries so don’t use that as an excuse LMFAO. The fact that you don’t even know your own teams starter shows how little you know about hockey

The fact you don't know that Reimer was starting more games than Mrazek was when he was healthy shows you can't even read stats. This proves you know nothing about hockey, and even less about Necas and his value LMFAO

I had Mrazek in fantasy buddy. Mrazek started more. Get out of here. Regardless, both goalies aren’t true starters. Clown

Reimer was literally starting and was good enough to be a starter. Get outta here you clown

He played 25 games. Mrazek played 40. You’d have a better chance winning with David Ayers in net

When both were healthy, Reimer played 25, Mrazek played 20. You tell me who the starter was (courtesy of the Canes podcast btw)

Okay so if anything they don’t even have a starter lol. They pretty much split. Regardless, both goalies aren’t true #1s for a cup winning team. Canes would be best off moving one of them and signing Lenher in FA

They would be better signing Lehner in free agency. That doesn't mean you're getting Necas for Murray

like I keep repeating... thats what Murray's value SHOULD be. he had a downyear, therefore at the moment he wouldn't bring in that return. which is why pens are not selling low on Murray. it would be a mistake. if Murray posted a .919 save percentage this year, like what he did last year, that is what the return would be. I have full confidence in Murray returning to form so selling low would be a foolish mistake.