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2021 offseason talks thread

Aug. 4, 2021 at 9:28 a.m.
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Who is the best RFA of the crop this year guys?
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 9:34 a.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFan4Ever34
Who is the best RFA of the crop this year guys?


Either Makar, Pettersson or Heiskanen.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 9:49 a.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Either Makar, Pettersson or Heiskanen.


No Svechnikov?
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFan4Ever34
No Svechnikov?


All three better than him, he'd be in the same category as Kaprizov and Tkachuk.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 10:20 a.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
All three better than him, he'd be in the same category as Kaprizov and Tkachuk.


Agreed
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 10:21 a.m.
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Winnipeg Jets have re-signed Logan Stanley for 2 years, 900K AAV. Good deal. Assuming they settle things with Neal Pionk, their D is now Morrisey-Pionk, and then some combination of Dillon, Schmidt, Stanley and Demelo (the first 3 of those are lefties, so we'll have to see how they play things). Pretty solid upgrade from last year.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 10:26 a.m.
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Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
Winnipeg Jets have re-signed Logan Stanley for 2 years, 900K AAV. Good deal. Assuming they settle things with Neal Pionk, their D is now Morrisey-Pionk, and then some combination of Dillon, Schmidt, Stanley and Demelo (the first 3 of those are lefties, so we'll have to see how they play things). Pretty solid upgrade from last year.


A bit overdue but better then never
Aug. 4, 2021 at 11:02 a.m.
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Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
Winnipeg Jets have re-signed Logan Stanley for 2 years, 900K AAV. Good deal. Assuming they settle things with Neal Pionk, their D is now Morrisey-Pionk, and then some combination of Dillon, Schmidt, Stanley and Demelo (the first 3 of those are lefties, so we'll have to see how they play things). Pretty solid upgrade from last year.


Pretty sure Schmidt is listed on CF as having RD eligibility too
Aug. 4, 2021 at 11:14 a.m.
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Some trades that almost happened:

At the 2015 draft, STL almost acquired Tomas Hertl and the 9th overall pick from SJS for T.J. Oshie and Kevin Shattenkirk. The trade aborted when SJS wanted Meier who was still on board.

In 2016, the EDM were planning to trade Taylor Hall 1-for-1 for Cody Ceci. They opted for Adam Larsson instead.

At the end of the 2006-07 season, DET were considering trading Pavel Datsyuk for Scott Gomez and other pieces, but they chose to keep and extend him.

Before the 2009 draft, VAN offered the 22nd overall pick, Alexandre Burrows and Kevin Bieksa to Tampa for the 2nd overall pick with the intention of selecting Victor Hedman.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
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Some trades that almost happened:

At the 2015 draft, STL almost acquired Tomas Hertl and the 9th overall pick from SJS for T.J. Oshie and Kevin Shattenkirk. The trade aborted when SJS wanted Meier who was still on board.

In 2016, the EDM were planning to trade Taylor Hall 1-for-1 for Cody Ceci. They opted for Adam Larsson instead.

At the end of the 2006-07 season, DET were considering trading Pavel Datsyuk for Scott Gomez and other pieces, but they chose to keep and extend him.

Before the 2009 draft, VAN offered the 22nd overall pick, Alexandre Burrows and Kevin Bieksa to Tampa for the 2nd overall pick with the intention of selecting Victor Hedman.


I don't remember the exact details but when Puljujarvi fell to 4th overall in 2016 I believe Calgary offered Edmonton the #6 pick, Backlund, and Dennis Wideman for #4 and the 2nd rounder Edmonton used on Tyler Benson.

At certain points in the talks, both Columbus and Vancouver were also involved until the Jackets learned that the Canucks were dead-set on taking Dubois if he fell to them. With Edmonton's original target being Sergachev, the plan was for a three-way deal that saw Calgary select 3rd, Columbus 4th, and Edmonton 6th. Knowing that once Dubois was off the board the Canucks would take Juolevi, one has to wonder as to whether or not Tkachuk would have ended up in Montreal.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I don't remember the exact details but when Puljujarvi fell to 4th overall in 2016 I believe Calgary offered Edmonton the #6 pick, Backlund, and Dennis Wideman for #4 and the 2nd rounder Edmonton used on Tyler Benson.

At certain points in the talks, both Columbus and Vancouver were also involved until the Jackets learned that the Canucks were dead-set on taking Dubois if he fell to them. With Edmonton's original target being Sergachev, the plan was for a three-way deal that saw Calgary select 3rd, Columbus 4th, and Edmonton 6th. Knowing that once Dubois was off the board the Canucks would take Juolevi, one has to wonder as to whether or not Tkachuk would have ended up in Montreal.


There's also a story about Dougie Hamilton being almost traded there from Boston, but Edmonton were not willing to include Nurse in the package.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Some trades that almost happened:

At the 2015 draft, STL almost acquired Tomas Hertl and the 9th overall pick from SJS for T.J. Oshie and Kevin Shattenkirk. The trade aborted when SJS wanted Meier who was still on board.

In 2016, the EDM were planning to trade Taylor Hall 1-for-1 for Cody Ceci. They opted for Adam Larsson instead.

At the end of the 2006-07 season, DET were considering trading Pavel Datsyuk for Scott Gomez and other pieces, but they chose to keep and extend him.

Before the 2009 draft, VAN offered the 22nd overall pick, Alexandre Burrows and Kevin Bieksa to Tampa for the 2nd overall pick with the intention of selecting Victor Hedman.

That Cody Ceci thing can NOT be real holy sh*t lmao

Also the Flames offered 6+22+28 to Colorado for 1 in the MacKinnon draft
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.
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Alright, it’s been a couple of days without any big news. Something is going to happen soon, right?


Senko to the Canes hopefully. Waddell needs to save the ship that he sunk.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 11:58 a.m.
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Senko to the Canes hopefully. Waddell needs to save the ship that he sunk.


Good forward to Dallas 👀.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 11:59 a.m.
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Good forward to Dallas 👀.

Eichel to Calgary 😉
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 12:00 p.m.
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Good forward to Dallas 👀.


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Eichel to Calgary 😉


Evander Kane to the Houston cap dumps awesome face
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 12:36 p.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Alright, it’s been a couple of days without any big news. Something is going to happen soon, right?


Tyler Bozak or Nikita Gusev to the Lightning (hopefully)
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 12:56 p.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Alright, it’s been a couple of days without any big news. Something is going to happen soon, right?


I guess either the eichel trade or all the arbitration signings
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
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Dougie as #7 is fire!!!!
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Some trades that almost happened:

At the 2015 draft, STL almost acquired Tomas Hertl and the 9th overall pick from SJS for T.J. Oshie and Kevin Shattenkirk. The trade aborted when SJS wanted Meier who was still on board.

In 2016, the EDM were planning to trade Taylor Hall 1-for-1 for Cody Ceci. They opted for Adam Larsson instead.

At the end of the 2006-07 season, DET were considering trading Pavel Datsyuk for Scott Gomez and other pieces, but they chose to keep and extend him.

Before the 2009 draft, VAN offered the 22nd overall pick, Alexandre Burrows and Kevin Bieksa to Tampa for the 2nd overall pick with the intention of selecting Victor Hedman.


My favorite trade that almost got through was the one in 2009 when Habs offered Carey Price, P.K. Subban, Max Pacioretty and 2010 1st round pick to TB for Vincent Lecavalier. Gainey, who was MTL gm back then, reportedly wanted a Beliveau like sizable French Canadian center to lead their team.

https://thehockeywriters.com/what-if-the-canadiens-had-acquired-vincent-lecavalier-in-2009/ here's more on that.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 2:39 p.m.
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Dubois is changing his number to 80 to honour former teammate Kivi

Some good news
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
That Cody Ceci thing can NOT be real holy sh*t lmao


Not only was it real and both GMs were willing to do the deal, it was Melnyk that scrapped the deal because he couldn't literally afford to add Hall to the roster.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.
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Not only was it real and both GMs were willing to do the deal, it was Melnyk that scrapped the deal because he couldn't literally afford to add Hall to the roster.


Lol, a pylon for a future Hart winner
Aug. 4, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
My favorite trade that almost got through was the one in 2009 when Habs offered Carey Price, P.K. Subban, Max Pacioretty and 2010 1st round pick to TB for Vincent Lecavalier. Gainey, who was MTL gm back then, reportedly wanted a Beliveau like sizable French Canadian center to lead their team.

https://thehockeywriters.com/what-if-the-canadiens-had-acquired-vincent-lecavalier-in-2009/ here's more on that.


Don't remind me of that lol. The worst part is the Lighthing declining it. Lecavalier fell off a cliff one or two seasons later.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 2:57 p.m.
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Don't remind me of that lol. The worst part is the Lighthing declining it. Lecavalier fell off a cliff one or two seasons later.


To be fair declining the trade got them players like Kuch, Vasy and Point, so in a sense it paid them back in a longer scale.
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