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2021-2022 NHL Season Discussion Thread #28 - Oilers are a Wagon

Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:16 p.m.
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There is no chance Forsberg signs with the isles - I bet he would take less to sign somewhere else


Wahlstrom is being scratched again tonight 😐
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:17 p.m.
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shortened season. if that was a full 82 i dont think youre looking at a cup winner. they were also slumping in 2020 before the covid break. covid was the only reason they won the cup in 2020 and you cant change my mind otherwise. we dont need to get into it further... just dont see tampa being the team to win it this year, mcdonough injury is huge. seems 5v5 scoring has waned recently and its almost all pp scoring.


Sigh...Bruins fans.

But if the McDonagh injury is the reason you're concerned, he's supposed to be back in a couple of games, even before the regular season ends, which will be a HUGE boost heading into the playoffs.

It's true that they have been ineffective at 5v5 play recently, and haven't been great on the PP either. Offense needs to get going.
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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Welcome to Bowness hockey, where everything is either extremely bold or extremely dumb.


though, there are some things that are both bold and dumb at the same time.

i know there are some examples but i can't think of any

i was gonna say "scratching a player last-minute when his parents are in the building" but that is just solely dumb
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Bobcat205
though, there are some things that are both bold and dumb at the same time.

i know there are some examples but i can't think of any

i was gonna say "scratching a player last-minute when his parents are in the building" but that is just solely dumb


And hypocritical, scratching someone who’s 6’6 220 pounds and a grit grinder is not a Bowness move. The only part of it that is, is the fact that he’s not over 30.

Scratching Gurianov is both bold and dumb.
Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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Wahlstrom is being scratched again tonight 😐


Lou would never trade his first pick with the organization but I'd root for a Devon Toews type of outcome if he is traded - I don't even care anymore, I just want Lou and Trotz to fail.
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:24 p.m.
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Lou would never trade his first pick with the organization but I'd root for a Devon Toews type of outcome if he is traded - I don't even care anymore, I just want Lou and Trotz to fail.


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If you know, you know.
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:25 p.m.
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If you know, you know.


I don't know lol
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:25 p.m.
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Same goes for McMichael. 😔
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:26 p.m.
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I don't know lol


It’s a Stars Wars quote, here is more context behind it:

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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:27 p.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
Sigh...Bruins fans.

But if the McDonagh injury is the reason you're concerned, he's supposed to be back in a couple of games, even before the regular season ends, which will be a HUGE boost heading into the playoffs.

It's true that they have been ineffective at 5v5 play recently, and haven't been great on the PP either. Offense needs to get going.


McD feels like hes been nursing something for a while i wonder how effective he is when he gets back.

as to your bruins fan comment. idk man i just dont see how A) they win in 2020 based on the skid of games they had been having, stamkos was out for year, they looked absolutely lost, hedman had just gotten hurt, i think there was one more pretty major injury in there as well. B) if last year is 82 games and not 56 your roster wouldnt have been nearly as deep because you would have had to clear the extra 9m from kucherov mid season or earlier. like i said no need to dwell. you arent changing my mind. bruins had a legit shot in 2020 and covid messed that up is what it is. dont think it matters for 2021 playoffs because we had too many injuries during the isles series with rask and carlo getting banged up. im increasingly worried about carlo, pastrnak, and lindholm not being ready to go by playoffs... we are gunna end up pulling carolina and thats gg. they are gunna smoke us.
Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:31 p.m.
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Lou would never trade his first pick with the organization but I'd root for a Devon Toews type of outcome if he is traded - I don't even care anymore, I just want Lou and Trotz to fail.

Lou either never trade his first pick with the Isles… unless it was for a top pair RD he gave a 7-year contract to a few years ago wink
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:32 p.m.
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Wow- justaBoss EsoYeezus69

Oettinger hasn't played since Sunday, yet he's not starting tonight vs. the Wild. Wedgewood is. Stars riding the hot glove.

This is...bold.


I don't mind - gotta rest our 1G for the playoffs. Plus Vezinawall is being elite
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:32 p.m.
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they could face the leafs in the 1st round so i'm not that tired of them yet.


Lol
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:41 p.m.
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Lou either never trade his first pick with the Isles… unless it was for a top pair RD he gave a 7-year contract to a few years ago wink


fortunately for the Isles RD is not a need or I bet Zaitsev would be an islander by now
Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: hanson493
McD feels like hes been nursing something for a while i wonder how effective he is when he gets back.

as to your bruins fan comment. idk man i just dont see how A) they win in 2020 based on the skid of games they had been having, stamkos was out for year, they looked absolutely lost, hedman had just gotten hurt, i think there was one more pretty major injury in there as well. B) if last year is 82 games and not 56 your roster wouldnt have been nearly as deep because you would have had to clear the extra 9m from kucherov mid season or earlier. like i said no need to dwell. you arent changing my mind. bruins had a legit shot in 2020 and covid messed that up is what it is. dont think it matters for 2021 playoffs because we had too many injuries during the isles series with rask and carlo getting banged up. im increasingly worried about carlo, pastrnak, and lindholm not being ready to go by playoffs... we are gunna end up pulling carolina and thats gg. they are gunna smoke us.


I get I'm not going to change your mind (has a Bruins fan's mind ever been changed? squinting with tongue out), I just enjoy the debate.

A) There's no way to know about 2020, agreed. I might even agree that they don't win if not for the shortened season. But still-the fact that they were so dominant in those playoffs, so complete, all without Stamkos (save for 2:36 and a goal for the ages) makes it one of the most remarkable playoff runs in recent memory IMO.

B) I hate the Kucherov knock, not because it's not true that they were over the cap (of course they were), but because, to quote Tenet (freaking Nolan masterpiece-sorry, going off-topic again), "what's happened's happened." The rules are the rules-maybe one day they'll change (and maybe they should!). But Kuch was actually injured, and the rules say the cap doesn't apply come playoff time.

Dougie Hamilton whined about it after they knocked out the Canes in Round 2, which I laughed at-don't make excuses. If one wants the league to change the rules, I'm fine. But I've seen people saying "the Lightning cheated"-that's just stupid, it's part of the game, the Blackhawks did something similar with Kane in 2015. If a player is injured, the rules allow one to fill up the space. What team wouldn't take advantage of that? (Apparently they might change that in the next CBA, and say that the cap will apply in the playoffs is well, which I think is perfectly understandable.)

But more to the point, even if it was a full season, I really do think that they were winning the Cup in 2021. Stamkos was also hurt down the stretch, which would've allowed them to bring back Kuch then without sacrificing anybody big (they probably don't trade for Savard, but he was a luxury, not a necessity like Coleman/Goodrow were).

There's no way to know for sure. But even the most avid Panthers fan would grudgingly agree that they earned those two Cups. They went through an awful lot.

In short, there's no "What if?" in hockey. Tampa Bay Lightning, back-to-back Stanley Cup Champs, and faced a ton of adversity in the process. They earned it.
Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:54 p.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
It’s a Stars Wars quote, here is more context behind it:

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I might trigger some people with this, but Star Wars is the most overrated series in the history of the world. OK, that's an exaggeration, but it's produced 2 masterpieces (A New Hope and TESB), two very good movies (RoTJ and Rogue One), 2 mediocre movies (RoTS and Solo), and 5 absolutely god-awful pieces of garbage (TPM, AoTC, and every single one of the new ones).
Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:57 p.m.
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I might trigger some people with this, but Star Wars is the most overrated series in the history of the world. OK, that's an exaggeration, but it's produced 2 masterpieces (A New Hope and TESB), two very good movies (RoTJ and Rogue One), 2 mediocre movies (RoTS and Solo), and 5 absolutely god-awful pieces of garbage (TPM, AoTC, and every single one of the new ones).


I might trigger some people with this, but ive never seen a Star Wars movie and I don't plan to.
Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:57 p.m.
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I might trigger some people with this, but Star Wars is the most overrated series in the history of the world. OK, that's an exaggeration, but it's produced 2 masterpieces (A New Hope and TESB), two very good movies (RoTJ and Rogue One), 2 mediocre movies (RoTS and Solo), and 5 absolutely god-awful pieces of garbage (TPM, AoTC, and every single one of the new ones).


The OG's ( Luke saga ) are amazing ( so 1,2,3 by publication date, 4,5,6 by chronology ), The prequels are fine ( Anakin saga ), they serve their purpose of explaining some of the backstories that could be useful to know for the Luke Saga. The new one's are just kind of meh ( so Rey's saga )
Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
I might trigger some people with this, but Star Wars is the most overrated series in the history of the world. OK, that's an exaggeration, but it's produced 2 masterpieces (A New Hope and TESB), two very good movies (RoTJ and Rogue One), 2 mediocre movies (RoTS and Solo), and 5 absolutely god-awful pieces of garbage (TPM, AoTC, and every single one of the new ones).


Talks a lot about government and it’s boring sometimes. But the lightsaber battle between Obi Wan and Anikin was sweet
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
I might trigger some people with this, but Star Wars is the most overrated series in the history of the world. OK, that's an exaggeration, but it's produced 2 masterpieces (A New Hope and TESB), two very good movies (RoTJ and Rogue One), 2 mediocre movies (RoTS and Solo), and 5 absolutely god-awful pieces of garbage (TPM, AoTC, and every single one of the new ones).


You'll definitely trigger a lot of people with that lol.

I agree with a lot of those evaluations of the movies, ROTS should be higher, and the new ones aren't awful, but other than that I agree with them.

It definitely isn't the most overrated series (though I couldn't tell you what is to be honest).
Apr. 14, 2022 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
I might trigger some people with this, but Star Wars is the most overrated series in the history of the world. OK, that's an exaggeration, but it's produced 2 masterpieces (A New Hope and TESB), two very good movies (RoTJ and Rogue One), 2 mediocre movies (RoTS and Solo), and 5 absolutely god-awful pieces of garbage (TPM, AoTC, and every single one of the new ones).


Honestly, that's a pretty good characterization of all of the star wars movies. I'd argue that RoTS should be higher on your list, but the main sentiment is there. I still love the franchise, but far too many people overlook some of it's large failures. (also I find TPM to be a "so bad its good" type movie but I see where others don't share that opinion)
Apr. 14, 2022 at 2:03 p.m.
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Question would you rather be on a bad team or a good team as a goalie
Apr. 14, 2022 at 2:05 p.m.
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Question would you rather be on a bad team or a good team as a goalie


Why would you want to be on a bad team though
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 2:06 p.m.
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I haven't watched alot of movies, and I don't plan to,
Thank you
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 2:07 p.m.
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Question would you rather be on a bad team or a good team as a goalie


Ummm...sorry?
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