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2021-22 NHL Off-season Discussion Thread - #1

May 22, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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Devils organization and General Manager Tom Fitzgerald are still open to trading their 2nd overall selection in this years 1st Round of the NHL Draft. Fitzgerald had stated on locker room clean-out day in early May before the Draft Lottery and taken place that he would be open to moving their 1st rounder this season and Friedman is able to confirm that the Devils are still open to moving it. Friedman also reports that management is in the process forming up a list of players that they would consider moving that draft pick for and this process will continue over the next couple of weeks.


This worries me. I don't see the rush for this organization and why Fitz couldn't be patient for just one more season.
Unless it's trading down to #5 at most or swinging a trade for Oettinger or Swayman, chances are I'd be very disappointed with any trade involving #2.
May 22, 2022 at 3:48 p.m.
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This worries me. I don't see the rush for this organization and why Fitz couldn't be patient for just one more season.
Unless it's trading down to #5 at most or swinging a trade for Oettinger or Swayman, chances are I'd be very disappointed with any trade involving #2.


We didn't sign Dougie to be rebuilding for two more years. We are far better than our standing suggests, and having the #2 overall pick is simply a luxury instead of neccesity as in years past.

If we have the ability to use the 2nd pick to get a great young player like Fiala, Tkachuk, Chychrun, etc. then you do it. We will happily make the pick on draft night, but we don't necessary need to draft a high potential player (who won't make a big impact for 2-3 more years) when we could get someone to help right now (and in the future).
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May 22, 2022 at 3:50 p.m.
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trading the 2nd seems like a good idea if nj can land a young dman or goalie with it.
May 22, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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Holy steal
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May 22, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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Stealdano re-signs with TOR
May 22, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.
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Holy steal


Beat me to it
May 22, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.
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Holy steal


For sure, the pay cut to Toronto is real, Gio, Spezza
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May 22, 2022 at 4:02 p.m.
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800k aav
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May 22, 2022 at 4:03 p.m.
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Giordano must like early vacations

Jk great signing by Dubas
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May 22, 2022 at 4:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Tintin
This worries me. I don't see the rush for this organization and why Fitz couldn't be patient for just one more season.
Unless it's trading down to #5 at most or swinging a trade for Oettinger or Swayman, chances are I'd be very disappointed with any trade involving #2.


Quoting: holtzer
We didn't sign Dougie to be rebuilding for two more years. We are far better than our standing suggests, and having the #2 overall pick is simply a luxury instead of neccesity as in years past.

If we have the ability to use the 2nd pick to get a great young player like Fiala, Tkachuk, Chychrun, etc. then you do it. We will happily make the pick on draft night, but we don't necessary need to draft a high potential player (who won't make a big impact for 2-3 more years) when we could get someone to help right now (and in the future).


I kinda agree with both of these

We don't have to trade the pick. Im fine with 2023-34 being the year we make the playoffs (Hughes, Gritsyuk, Mukhamudullin all make the team). If there is a trade where the Devils can acquire a starter potential goalie, then do it. If not, then keep the pick
May 22, 2022 at 4:10 p.m.
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Holy steal


Great signing.
Mark could've gotten a lot more in FA than that.
Big of him to choose to stay in Toronto.
May 22, 2022 at 4:14 p.m.
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Holy steal


Agreed. Hearing Sandin for Varlamov is imminent
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May 22, 2022 at 4:16 p.m.
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Agreed. Hearing Sandin for Varlamov is imminent


Nah dubas make the hard decision and ask muzz to waive. That's 5m clear up
May 22, 2022 at 4:16 p.m.
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Nah dubas make the hard decision and ask muzz to waive. That's 5m clear up


Muzzin actually has to waive and then you have to find a team to take his contract
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May 22, 2022 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg




Holy steal


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Agreed. Hearing Sandin for Varlamov is imminent


For the love of god I hope not lol

But agreed someone on the LD is getting moved out. I’m guess would be Muzzin.
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May 22, 2022 at 4:17 p.m.
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Muzzin actually has to waive and then you have to find a team to take his contract


That's why I said ask. If he waives there will be teams wanting him. Dubas probably let muzzin pick where to go if he does waive
May 22, 2022 at 4:19 p.m.
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More than I could have hoped for on the Gio signing. I would've thought the discount would be in the $1.5-2m range.
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May 22, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.
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Almost perfectly predicted the Gio contract. Got the term wrong as I thought it would be one year also said 900k vs 800k lul

Gonna be interesting to see what Keefe does as rn if we dont add and we just extend Sandin/Liligren we got

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Liligren
Giordano-Sandin

One Idea I have had is trying Rielly on the right side and going

Muzzin-Brodie
Giordano-Rielly
Sandin-Lilgren

But hey one thing out of the way now time for the others

Now for signing #2 pls bring back Spezza on his usual deal wink
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May 22, 2022 at 4:29 p.m.
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Beat me to it


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May 22, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.
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This worries me. I don't see the rush for this organization and why Fitz couldn't be patient for just one more season.
Unless it's trading down to #5 at most or swinging a trade for Oettinger or Swayman, chances are I'd be very disappointed with any trade involving #2.


Meier and M.Tkachuk are the only players it makes sense to trade #2 for
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May 22, 2022 at 6:06 p.m.
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For the love of god I hope not lol

But agreed someone on the LD is getting moved out. I’m guess would be Muzzin.


Muzzin for Varlamov is a great starting point for a trade
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May 22, 2022 at 6:15 p.m.
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For the love of god I hope not lol

But agreed someone on the LD is getting moved out. I’m guess would be Muzzin.


Was thinking that but here is the problem

You trade Muzzin you trade away the one guy who has won a cup

And moving Sandin makes 0 sense as his progression this year was amazing and if he continues to develop at this rate he will be a top 4 D by the time Muzzin's deal is up.

Honestly I could see 2 things happen

1. Rielly moves to the right side and we see

Muzzin-Brodie
Giordano-Rielly
Sandin-Liligren

Or

2. They run 7Dman for the season
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May 22, 2022 at 6:20 p.m.
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Holy steal


Fantastic signing. When my brother @JetsCanesSens told me about it, I thought he was kidding lol.
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May 22, 2022 at 6:22 p.m.
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For the love of god I hope not lol

But agreed someone on the LD is getting moved out. I’m guess would be Muzzin.


Muzzin probably is traded. Back to the kings is my prediction.
May 22, 2022 at 6:25 p.m.
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Fantastic signing. When my brother JetsCanesSens told me about it, I thought he was kidding lol.


Pretty good agreed

CJ also made a good list of UFA forwards Toronto could eye

https://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/opinion/2022/05/22/the-leafs-most-intriguing-buy-low-options-will-include-the-guy-who-ended-their-season.html

The one big question is who is gonna be the starting goalie

To me I think personally they are gonna bring Campbell back at 4.75mill or something like that but we shall see
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